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China Is Accused Of Fuelling Pacific Arms Race As Submarine Orders Rise
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 3-31-2007 | Tim Shipman - Chad Bouchard

Posted on 03/31/2007 4:27:37 PM PDT by blam

China is accused of fuelling Pacific arms race as submarine orders rise

By Tim Shipman and Chad Bouchard in Jakarta, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 11:53pm BST 31/03/2007

A dramatic increase in the number of submarines being built in southeast Asia has sparked claims that a new arms race is under way beneath the waves in the Western Pacific.

Dozens of hunter-killers, armed with missiles and intelligence-gathering equipment, are being built, fanning fears of potential conflict in a volatile corner of the world and threatening to alter the global balance of military power.

The Indonesian government has announced that it wants to build 12 submarines by 2024 to patrol the strategically vital waters around its 17,000 islands. Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, South Korea, Bangladesh and -Pakistan are all buying -submarines "off the shelf".

China and India - the two emergent superpowers of the Asia-Pacific region - are now planning a new generation of nuclear-powered boats that, in China's case, could fire nuclear missiles capable of hitting the US mainland.

A report published by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute think-tank warns: "There is an element of an arms race at work here."

Andrew Davies, the author of The Enemy Below, said: "Submarines will be able to seriously threaten the operation of surface fleets and commercial trade."

His report predicts that the growing number of submarine operations could lead to a "serious international incident" and that the "potential for miscalculation is significant, leading to accidents or escalation of response".

The major peril in these waters has been, until recently, the prevalence of modern-day paramilitary "pirates", who blight the trade routes through the Malacca Straits between Sumatra and Malaysia.

Now they are becoming the hunting ground for a new generation of submarine, capable of sinking ships, attacking ports and oil facilities, laying mines and landing covert raiding parties.

The potential for conflict became a reality last October. The USS Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier, at 82,000 tons, is the embodiment of US naval superiority in the Pacific, which has gone unchallenged since the Battle of Midway in 1942.

Supported by an attack submarine and anti-submarine helicopters, it was conducting routine exercises around the island of Okinawa when its crew was startled - and embarrassed - by the sudden appearance of a Chinese Song-class submarine.

The boat, apparently practising anti-carrier warfare, had gone undetected until it surfaced five miles away - putting the American vessel within range of its Russian-made, wake-homing torpedoes and anti-ship cruise missiles.

US commanders admitted they had been caught off guard because Chinese boats are rarely found in the "blue water" so far from their own coastline.

Adml William Fallon, then the head of US Pacific Command, who has been promoted to take charge of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, warned that the incident "could have escalated into something that was very unforeseen".

Indonesia is adding submarines to its fleet faster than any other country of comparable size. Four Russian Kilo class diesel-powered boats have been ordered from the Russian Far East, at a cost of $200million (£107 million) each. A $750million deal last month with South Korea will supply another two submarines.

By 2016, Singapore plans to have six submarines. Earlier this month, a French Scorpene submarine ordered by Malaysia reached its final stage of construction, the first of two destined for the Royal Malaysian Navy. Vietnam wants two or three Kilo-class boats.

Defence advisers in Australia, Britain's closest ally in the region, are voicing concern that the country's regional naval superiority is under attack.

British military officials, who conduct submarine exercises alongside Australia in the South Pacific, fear that nuclear warheads could be mounted on missiles fired by conventional submarines acquired by the other nations, creating a nuclear standoff in the region.

A British military official said: "If you are looking for a nuclear deterrent, it makes sense to acquire a submarine fleet. They are the best solution for nuclear power projection because they are difficult to detect and destroy."

Jason Alderwick, a maritime defence analyst at the International Institute of Strategic Studies, said: "Submarines are potent platforms and will be a key factor in any dispute over Taiwan or the Moluccas."

Indonesia's military spokesman, Rear Adml M Sunarto Sjoekronoputro, told The Sunday Telegraph that increasing naval power was critical for a country of 17,000 islands. "To secure our borders, two outdated submarines are not enough," he said. "We will buy new submarines step by step, as the economy allows."

The unspoken reason, spelled out in the Australian report, for the growth in submarine power is China, with which Indonesia has had uneasy relations for 40 years.

Since 1996, when the United States sent two carrier battle groups to Taiwan to deter -Chinese aggression, China has invested in weapons to boost its naval power. President Hu Jintao told Communist Party delegates last year he wants a navy prepared "at any time" for military action.

The US Office of Naval Intelligence says China is intent on building five strategic nuclear-missile boats, equipped with 5,000-mile range JL-2 missiles, which will give it an arsenal of 60 strategic nuclear missiles at sea, each with multiple warheads.

The first will go to sea next year, and the first two of a new class of nuclear-powered attack submarines will enter service this year. Chinese defence spending will increase 17 per cent this year to £23 billion - the 19th year of double-digit growth.

Last November China shifted its defensive posture, from the Mao doctrine, which envisaged destroying enemies within the borders of China, to one that would protect the homeland offshore.

The US Department of Defence's recent Military Power Report on China concluded that the country was working on a combat air wing for a future aircraft carrier, capable of projecting power far into the Pacific.

Robert Karniol, the Asia-Pacific bureau chief of the magazine Jane's Defence Weekly, said: "There are deep suspicions around the region fed by China's lack of transparency.

If you build up offshore capability your intention may be defensive but the equipment can be used for offensive action. As military capabilities grow more sophisticated offshore, the possibility of misunderstandings and small incidents building into something serious is heightened."

Vice-President Dick Cheney signalled the US response in February when he visited Guam, the 30-mile long Pacific island dubbed America's "unsinkable aircraft carrier".

He hailed the arrival of two Los Angeles-class nuclear-powered attack submarines, with a third due later this year. Guam's Apra Harbour is under refurbishment to accommodate Trident nuclear subs.

But Chinese submarines may be shifting the balance of power. Mr Karniol said: "The Chinese have made clear they retain a military option on Taiwan. The consensus is that the Americans would not be able to prevent an invasion. They would be able to move and defeat it but they wouldn't be able to stop it happening."


TOPICS: Extended News; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: arms; china; india; japan; navy; nuclear; pacific; russia; ssk; submarine; vietnam

1 posted on 03/31/2007 4:27:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

There is no way we will be able to keep up our Naval Dominance with a two hundred and seventy something Navy. Things need to chance quickly in how we treat our navy or some day in the not too distant future, we will be ceding the seas to other powers.


2 posted on 03/31/2007 4:33:42 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: blam

Make Taiwan nuclear with some serious rocketry to match.


3 posted on 03/31/2007 4:34:58 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: spikeytx86
I'm willing to take whatever tax cut is required to fund a larger Navy.
4 posted on 03/31/2007 4:37:11 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: GSlob

We did it with the Israelis, I don't know why we don't do it with Taiwan.


5 posted on 03/31/2007 4:40:34 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: spikeytx86

Well, were I a Special Assistant for these things, it would have been done long ago. But I am not a Special Assistant. What a bummer!


6 posted on 03/31/2007 4:44:07 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: blam
When the USSR fell, the US Navy basically stopped practicing ASW. Now, 15 years later, the Navy is scrambling to recreate some of the vast expertise lost. More.
7 posted on 03/31/2007 4:45:39 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: spikeytx86
There is no way we will be able to keep up our Naval Dominance with a two hundred and seventy something Navy. Things need to chance quickly in how we treat our navy or some day in the not too distant future, we will be ceding the seas to other powers.

Numbers of ships is an terrible way to rate and compare navies - for example, there are significantly more missiles on US Navy ships today than there were at the Reagan Navy Peak of 568 ships in 1987.

And any way you look at it the no Navy in the history of the planet has ever been more completely dominant relative to all the other Navies in the world than the US, right now.

Stupid over-expensive designs and massive cost overruns for ship construction are a serious problem that will have to be addressed, though.

8 posted on 03/31/2007 6:42:40 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: blam

If Bush were running China, what would he do?


9 posted on 03/31/2007 7:41:34 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Doe Eyes

"I'm willing to take whatever tax cut is required to fund a larger Navy."

The government takes in plenty of money but spends it in the wrong places. Subsidies for one-eyed, lesbian ferret farmers and other crap like that.


10 posted on 03/31/2007 7:45:09 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: blam
China and India - the two emergent superpowers of the Asia-Pacific region

Oh please could we ONE time discuss China without all the hysteric chicken little drama queen hype? The difference in capability between the current US Navy and any fleet China can buy/build in the next 50 years is the different between a NFL superbowl winner and the local JR High School flag football team.

11 posted on 04/01/2007 6:04:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Doe Eyes
I'm willing to take whatever tax cut is required to fund a larger Navy.

BRILLIANT post! :-)

12 posted on 04/01/2007 6:06:02 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: spikeytx86
Numbers don't matter nearly as much in modern war as the did even 20 years ago. Pretty tough for the Chinese to fight a 21st Century Navy with a 1970s caliber technology.

But what the heck, if this is what it takes to get the politicals in DC to fund the Navy..


"Ah! The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! Quick Build up the Navy!!!!!! HELP Save US! Help US Nancy P! Save us from the "Yellow Peril"!!!!"

13 posted on 04/01/2007 6:09:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Doe Eyes

This post needs to be in the all-time hall of fame. Thank you.


14 posted on 04/01/2007 6:23:18 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: spikeytx86

Taiwan doesn't have the influence of Israel with the US Congress and White House-plain simple fact


15 posted on 04/01/2007 7:45:27 AM PDT by steamroller
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To: MNJohnnie
I am not afraid they (the Chinese) will out number our fleet, what I am saying is, with massive naval commitments in the European and middle eastern theater, maintaining a significant number of vessels for combat (like say with N.K., and Iran), plus the fact at any given time a decent number are incapable of deploying for things like routine maintenance leaves our navy in a tight squeeze if a crisis in the straights were to develop. I really don't see it as hysterics as some here are saying, it is just reality that with the amount of commitments we currently have and will no doubt develop in the future, we will need a much larger navy to sustain those commitments.
16 posted on 04/01/2007 1:08:22 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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