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A Democratic blueprint for defeat
The Washington Times ^ | March 22, 2007 | Editorial

Posted on 03/22/2007 11:00:25 AM PDT by jazusamo

March 22, 2007

Today, the House begins consideration of the "slow-bleed" plan for defeat in Iraq that has been crafted by Rep. John Murtha and tucked into a $124 billion supplemental bill that includes money to fund the war. If Mr. Murtha, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic leadership are successful in getting this bill enacted into law, it would jeopardize the ability of the approximately 150,000 American troops serving in Iraq to defend themselves. It also would effectively ensure that Iraq spirals into civil war and that terrorist insurgent and militia groups would prevail over the United States. A strong case also can be made that it contemplates micromanaging the war in ways that unconstitutionally encroach on the president's powers.

No one should be fooled by the fact that a few members on the far left of the House Democratic Caucus -- who oppose on principle any funding for the war -- will join with the overwhelming majority of House Republicans in voting against the bill. While in our view these fringe-left Democrats are foolhardy and irresponsible, they are at least at some level honest about their belief that victory is impossible and that it is time to abandon Iraq. But the bill being considered today is permeated by intellectual dishonesty.

Mrs. Pelosi, Mr. Murtha, et al. realize full well that ever since George McGovern lost 49 states to Richard Nixon in 1972 that the American public has come to distrust their judgment on national security because it perceives them to be "soft" on America's enemies. So, in the wake of November's elections in which the Democrats recaptured control of the House and Senate, they concocted a strategy that, if successful, would enable Democrats to make it impossible to conduct the war....

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1 posted on 03/22/2007 11:00:28 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: bmwcyle; desherwood7; FairOpinion; Fedora; freema; Just A Nobody; pandoraou812; RedRover; ...

Murtha Watch Ping!


2 posted on 03/22/2007 11:03:00 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

Halliburton!


3 posted on 03/22/2007 11:07:39 AM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: jazusamo

There's NOT going to be any defeat *this* time.

The last time the democrats betrayed the military and pulled them out of Vietnam, it still took TWO YEARS, with unlimited weapons and manpower, for North Vietnam to conquer the South.

TWO YEARS, based on the training we had given them, their own intestinal fortitude, and an ever diminishing supply of weapons.

So THIS TIME, the US military isn't going to let that happen.

From Day 1 of the occupation, the US military has been planning, preparing for, and getting the Iraqis ready for, the BETRAYAL they felt was almost even money to happen.

They planned against every conceivable scenario to insure that Iraq will not only survive if the US pulls out, but thrive. And thrives as a US ally.

Could Iraq have a civil war? Sure. One that didn't last very long, because the Sunnis are now only 10% of the population. They would lose and lose quickly. Many would be kicked out, and the remainder would be humbled.

The only other alternative would be an invasion by Syria, Iran or Turkey. The Iraqis could easily destroy the Syrian army, and they are almost on par with the Iranian army, at least enough to stalemate them. The Turks would only be interested in punishing Kurdistan, but the Peshmurga might have other ideas.

Just today, there was a news item about Iraqis being trained in Alabama to form their new Air Force. This leaves only artillery, tanks, anti-tank and anti-aircraft and the Iraq army will be restored.

So we should all be reassured. The democrats may force a withdrawl, but they cannot force a defeat. And though they and their MSM allies will call it a defeat for years, how will they explain a prosperous and peaceful Iraq, friendly with the US, and unfriendly to terrorists, as defeat?

We should all be prepared to laugh at them and call them fools. They shouldn't get the first chance to lie like that and get away with it.


4 posted on 03/22/2007 11:15:38 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Popocatapetl

I hope you are correct and have a strong suspicion you are. A repeat of history is not an option for me.


5 posted on 03/22/2007 11:24:12 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

This defeatist and treasonous bill has ZERO chance of becoming a law. It is very true that the vast majority of democrats and few Republicans are traitors and defeatists, but fortunately it is also true that they are too weak and to impotent to stop the President plan for victory in the war.


6 posted on 03/22/2007 11:30:17 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jazusamo; Psycmeistr
No one should be under any illusions: The bill on the floor today has been crafted primarily to pave the way for an American military defeat in Iraq while giving the Democrats a fig leaf of deniability.

They think they can hide behind murtha, the "great defense hawk".

But as Psycmeistr showed us last night, murtha keeps on embarassing them with his despicable shenanigans...

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7 posted on 03/22/2007 11:30:58 AM PDT by smoothsailing (http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/)
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To: jveritas

Bump to that, JV!


8 posted on 03/22/2007 11:39:53 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: smoothsailing

He did a great job on that pic, it reflects murtha so well, the traitor that he is.


9 posted on 03/22/2007 11:42:29 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
Why doesn't Bush go on the attack. Why doesn't he say that the plan proposed by the Dems it intended to 'bleed our servicemen to death!'.

Why is Bush so passive?

10 posted on 03/22/2007 11:47:50 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: Voltage

I have no idea, I wish he'd come down on them hard. I admire George Bush but he has been way too lax in coming down on the Dems for their despicable behavior on many occasions.


11 posted on 03/22/2007 11:54:38 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

I'm applying the Code Pink anti-war crowd's logic here...

Nationally, we lose around 150 police officers in the line of duty every year, many of them killed by foreigners who are here illegally.

This has to stop. We cannot let another single American police officer die in the quagmire of fighting crime.

Let's get the police off the streets NOW!

Return them to their police stations where they will not have to shed their blood.

And let's defund police cruisers so they cannot be put at risk any more.

Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?


12 posted on 03/22/2007 7:20:06 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Wil H

That pretty much sums up the pinkos logic. The head in the sand thing is used far too often but it definitely applies to them.


13 posted on 03/22/2007 7:27:05 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Voltage

W is too nice and it took the Dems to pass the bill for troop funding because they did not want to give the WH a 'victory' said the Leftist Quisling Traitors in the persons of the Kos-Code Pink types who really speak for the Dems ala Barb. Lee of Ca.


14 posted on 03/22/2007 9:21:05 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: jazusamo

Seeing as how the bill has passed the House, We're already starting to see shades of Vietnam.


15 posted on 03/24/2007 11:52:35 AM PDT by desherwood7
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To: smoothsailing

Hey.. thanks for the ping, and the comment! :)


16 posted on 04/19/2007 9:02:02 PM PDT by Psycmeistr (http://murthamustgo.blogspot.com)
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To: Popocatapetl; jazusamo

Uh, if my memory serves me correctly, it was Richard Nixon who pulled our troops out of Viet Nam after running on a platform of “Peace with Honor”. Yeah, right!

55,000 Americans died in vain. Thank you Richard Nixon. I was there and I guess I oughta know.


17 posted on 04/19/2007 9:10:09 PM PDT by no dems (To: Our GOP Prez, Congress of big-spenders, crooks, and pedophiles: You failed us miserably.)
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To: no dems

Nixon faced the same hostility in congress that George Bush does right now. They made it clear that they were no longer going to pay for the Vietnam War, so Nixon had little choice but to order the military out.

However, the democrat congress then decided to NOT give Vietnam any military aid to support itself against the North, that was receiving unlimited aid from Russia.

That is, they were not satisfied to see the US pull out, they wanted South Vietnam to *fail*. And even though this treachery succeeded, it still took the North TWO YEARS of fighting to defeat the US-trained ARVN, using the few weapons they had left.

And this is a very important point. The democrats in congress right now will also NOT be satisfied by just having the US military leave Iraq. They will want to destroy Iraq, to *prove* that we failed there, that we were wrong, and that the Iraqis are sub-human. And yes, there is a strong undercurrent of racism in what they do.

As they left MILLIONS of Vietnamese and Cambodians to die horribly, they are willing to destroy the entire Middle East in a nuclear holocaust, just to show that the US has failed.

And with not just MILLIONS of dead, but TENS or even HUNDREDS of MILLIONS dead, just so they can damn the US even further, and fulfill their belief that the US is responsible for all the evil in the world.

It sounds insane. But the blood of millions of Vietnamese and Cambodians is on democrat hands. What do they care if millions more die, just to justify their hatred of America?


18 posted on 04/19/2007 9:46:31 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: no dems; Popocatapetl; jazusamo
Uh, if my memory serves me correctly, it was Richard Nixon who pulled our troops out of Viet Nam after running on a platform of “Peace with Honor”. Yeah, right!

55,000 Americans died in vain. Thank you Richard Nixon. I was there and I guess I oughta know.

It wasn't 55,000 and not one died in vain. You weren't there now, wuz ya?

While you ponder that, check out the latest asshat in our world.

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19 posted on 04/19/2007 9:49:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: smoothsailing; no dems

I wasn’t there and I know it wasn’t 55,000 either, Smooth. I also know they didn’t die in vain and that the despicable murtha is a genuine asshat.

What do you think about that, no dems?


20 posted on 04/19/2007 10:03:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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