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GOP Insiders See Giuliani's Lead as Fragile
U.S. News & World Report ^ | 13 March 2007 | Kenneth T. Walsh

Posted on 03/13/2007 2:27:45 PM PDT by Spiff

GOP Insiders See Giuliani's Lead as Fragile

March 13, 2007 | 4:03 PM

White House correspondent Kenneth T. Walsh:

Despite former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's lead in the polls, Republican insiders say the GOP base is so divided and Giuliani's ascension is so fragile that the party's presidential nomination for 2008 is totally up for grabs.

"I've never seen the party so split," says a GOP strategist with close ties to evangelical Christians.

Giuliani, despite his strong image from 9/11, consistently falls well short of a majority. The latest CNN survey gives him a 34-18 lead over John McCain in the race for the Republican nomination.

"Contrary to the view inside the Beltway," the strategist says, "we don't have anybody who is the torch bearer or who is remotely agreed upon."

There is also a growing belief among social conservatives that the race isn't starting too early, as some pundits and White House political architect Karl Rove have said. Instead, the GOP rank and file welcomes the early start of the campaign because they will need a long time to assess all the candidates and see how they operate under pressure. Many social conservative activists argue that Giuliani's lead in the polls will begin melting away as the year wears on and as conservatives scrutinize his liberal record on abortion, gun control, and gay rights.

"For very good reasons, the base will say 'no thanks' to Rudy," says the strategist. "Eventually there will be a reckoning."

He sees the start of that reckoning in the negative ripples among religious conservatives caused by recent news stories about the distant relationship between Giuliani and his son and about Giuliani's three marriages.


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1 posted on 03/13/2007 2:27:48 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: FreeInWV; Reagan Man; Fierce Allegiance; EternalVigilance; B Knotts; jmc813; Kimberly GG; Sun; ...

((((STOP RUDY PING))))


2 posted on 03/13/2007 2:28:53 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

Fred Thompson needs to run. That (among other things) will stop Rudy.


3 posted on 03/13/2007 2:31:48 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: Spiff

They know its fragile thats why they resort to phony polls and lies, trying to make us think he is the "only"one to save America.


4 posted on 03/13/2007 2:31:58 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Spiff


"Is this what you expected, McCain?"

"No. This is just the beginning."
5 posted on 03/13/2007 2:32:19 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is plant food, not pollution.)
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To: Spiff

I wish I had the confidence Hunter could win FL, OH and PA.


6 posted on 03/13/2007 2:32:30 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Clara Lou

It's more likely that Fred Thompson will wind up Rudy's VP than it is likely he will stop Rudy in the primaries.


7 posted on 03/13/2007 2:32:49 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Spiff
"Despite former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's lead in the polls, Republican insiders say the GOP base is so divided and Giuliani's ascension is so fragile that the party's presidential nomination for 2008 is totally up for grabs"


8 posted on 03/13/2007 2:32:50 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Spiff

Wow, that was hard-hitting, Spiff. Mort Zuckerman's U.S. News & World Report quoting a single unnamed evangelical source! OOOOOHHHH....

Lame. Try again.


9 posted on 03/13/2007 2:33:02 PM PDT by Jhensy
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To: HitmanLV

I don't have a crystal ball, but I think you're wrong.


10 posted on 03/13/2007 2:34:31 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: HitmanLV
Neither will accept second banana.
11 posted on 03/13/2007 2:36:54 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Spiff
"I've never seen the party so split," says a GOP strategist with close ties to evangelical Christians

..somebody has been visiting FR...

12 posted on 03/13/2007 2:38:16 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Spiff
I think the hardcore dem base (coerced union members,welfare recipients, dead people, vacant lots, etc.) will vote no matter who the nominee is. I think if Rudy is the nominee many R's will stay home on principle thus handing the White House to the dems. I won't 'sit it out' personally if Rudy wins the nomination but I can't argue with those that do. He might as well be a dem when you look at many policy issues.
13 posted on 03/13/2007 2:40:30 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

That's why the MSM love's Rudy so much.


14 posted on 03/13/2007 2:42:34 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Spiff

From fragile to collapsed by end of summer.


15 posted on 03/13/2007 2:43:05 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Spiff

Prediction: None of the "RINO THREE" will be the nominee come November 2008.


16 posted on 03/13/2007 2:44:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Spiff
....there are negative ripples among religious conservatives about the distant relationship between Giuliani and his son, and about Giuliani's three marriages......

When Andrew Giuliani outed Rudy as a miserable father with a possessive, domineering third wife who demands Rudy stay away from his kids, America spoke loud and clear.

88% of those polled said they had a problem with Rudy not attending his son's graduation.

Now that's a poll with political punch (not A Julie Annie faked-up, manufactured poll).

17 posted on 03/13/2007 2:46:38 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Spiff
More LSM jabbering, trying to muster up anti-Rudy sentiment on the right. Once McCain is out, virtually all of those votes go to Giuliani. After 2006, the GOP is not going to put out a nominee who cannot capture the imaginations of swing voters. So unless Thompson or someone else can demonstrate a capability to beat the likely Dim nominees in PA, VA, MO, etc. Then Rudy will be the choice.

We are seeing more and more stories like this from LSM outlets of late. Giuliani seems to be the candidate they fear most, and for good reason.

18 posted on 03/13/2007 2:48:00 PM PDT by massadvj
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It's time to acknowledge that Julie-Annie is a very dangerous man.

Rudy's intrusion into the Republican party is a prelude to the decline of the American republic, the two-party system, and the systems of checks and balances the founders built into our system of government.

The Rudyoids stalk conservatives, demean them at every turn, and sneer at the issues conservatives hold dear, even threatening conservatives' free speech. This is only the prelude to the larger plan----to throw social conservatives off the Repub lifeboat, to trash the Constitution, so that liberals control all facets of government.

That's decidedly not what the Founders intended.

Rudy and his liberal control-freaks are a distinct threat to the two-party system, and to the system of checks and balances the founders built into our system of government.

Giuliani's intrusion into Repub politics is the initial step in the decline of the American republic as we know it.

19 posted on 03/13/2007 2:53:47 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"Prediction: None of the "RINO THREE" will be the nominee come November 2008."

I think you are correct. If someone like Fred Thompson jumps in....McRudyRomney are history.


20 posted on 03/13/2007 3:06:09 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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