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WHY ALL CONSERVATIVES SHOULD SUPPORT RUDY WITH ENTHUSIASM IN 2008
A CONSERVATIVE BUT RATIONAL MIND | 3/4/2007 | AL SIMMONS

Posted on 03/04/2007 1:04:27 PM PST by Al Simmons

One recent anti-Rudy poster stated the following:

"And if Rudy does get the nod, expect the MSM to open up the hype floodgates on the cross-dressing and the gay stuff -- oh, not condemning of course (wink) but how it's a big change, how will this play in the South, does this mean gay marriage is A-OK for the GOP."

MY REPLY: And if they do it will be countered with images of Rudy's heroism during and after 9/11 and most Americans will be DISGUSTED - at the MSM, NOT at RUDY.

The issue in 2008 will be the WOT - what with Iran's creeping closer to nukes and threatening the world. Not pull-out, but how to best change strategy and WIN.

Your statement does not mean to, but it nevertheless implies that Southerners and all Socons are stupid one-issue voters. Having lived in the Bible - Belt for 8 years I can tell you this is FAR from the truth. Its almost like you have been taken in by, and are repeating the MSM's Koolaid mantra about this group of Americans - of which I consider myself to be one, BTW.

Southerners are the most patriotic of Americans, they know we are at war, they absolutely DESPISE the treasonous opposition like Murtha, and they know that Rudy is the one who will take the fight to the terrorists - and without a velvet glove a la Dubya in Iraq, but with brass knuckles.

Rudy's principled stance on judges and the 'socon' issues (ie. he is a constructionist who will appoint constructionist judges like Scalia and Roberts - confirmed by no less a Federalist Society Conservative luminary than Ted Olsen - combined with his tacit promise that he is not a 'crusader' on social issues but believes that they should be decided by the people's elected representatives is right in line with what 90% of 'socons' (like myself, for example) believe).

So the fact that he is not flip-flopping a la Mitt and trying to brown-nose this "group" is also enhancing his image as a true leader - which he is - its funny how it was the Veterans here on FR who have been the first to catch on to that. Its a 'disturbance in the force' that we are highly attuned to, if you will. We can tell a real leader from a political poseur a mile away - and Rudy is a real leader.

Therefore Rudy will not meet significant opposition in the primary voters block except from a tiny minority of 'no compromise - any time any where' radicals who are squealing like stuck pigs around here the past few weeks because their own tactics have resulted in themselves becoming increasingly marginalized and out-of-the current conservative stream, which gathering itself up into a raging torrent that will sweep Rudy into office.

I was open-minded on Rudy when the bashing started a couple of weeks ago. Now, I am 100% behind him. The misguided attempts at character assassination, and 'can't see the forest for the trees blindness' of the anti-Rdy bots around here has had this effect on many, many Freepers - and is having this effect on conservative voters across the country.

Contrary to the idiotic "Rudy=Hitlary" statements which even the biggest rube knows are BS, the difference between Rudy and Hitlary (besides that one will cut-and-run while the other will get tougher in the WOT) is that Hitlary is a doctrinaire crusading Marxist who will use the FULL power of her office to sign laws and appoint judges who will seek to limit and take away our rights as religious Americans, home-schoolers and 2nd Amendment backers - this will be THE FOCUS of her administration, NOT the WOT. She's waited nearly 40 years to implement Saul ALinsky's tactics for turing America into a Marxist-liberal state. And she is cackling about the dissent she hopes will split the GOP and give her a cakewalk to the WH. Happily, she is DEAD WRONG about this.

Rudy's priorities are straight - WOT is #1, - AND IF YOU GET NOTHING MORE OUT OF THIS POST, PLEASE GET THIS:

Rudy is a PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVE who believes that the people should decide most of their social issues through their local elected representatives - and he will appoint conservative judges who have that philosophy - as opposed to Hitlary, who will appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburgs to every open Federal Judiciary Seat ACROSS THE NATION.

THAT is the real difference between Rudy and any national radical crusading left-wing Democrat who will run in 2008 (99% chance its Hitlary in my view).

So look at this issue beyond looking at out-of-context quotes made by Rudy when he was Mayor of a 5-1 LIBERAL city where he had to politically survive in order to save the City (which he did). He was THE most hated politician by the liberal limousine crowd that NY had ever seen. Does this sound like Rudy=Hitlary to you?

Look at his record of leadership and supporting pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment conservative candidates ALL OVER THE COUNTRY in the 2002, 2004 and 2006 elections.

That is called loyalty and patriotism. This is a man in whom I would have every confidence being back-to-back with in a political foxhole - and I cannot say that about any of the other candidates.

So please, those of you criticizing Rudy so viciously around here - get your 'gaze out of your navels' and see the 'Big Picture'.

Rudy is not a threat to conservatives, he will uphold local rights (especially through his judicial appointments), AND he will fight to protect this nation from a terrorist and a looming nuclear-terrorist peril. The alternative is to elect a Dem and concede defeat - HERE and ABROAD.

He is NO THREAT to the so-called 'socons'.

But he is a DEADLY THREAT to the terorrists and terrorist states (read:Iran) who would destroy us - and he a DEADLY THREAT to the liberal hegemony that Hitlary and her backers would LOVE to impose upon us.

It is the MSM that is playing up the 'Rudy is splitting the GOP base' FALSE stories. They are hoping to create such a split so that they have a chance to defeat him in 2008.

Well, their strategy is NOT WORKING, and he will defeat them - for all our sakes - in 2008.

Over and out!


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To: Al Simmons
Sorry, I'm used to having a second amendment.

No one will convince me that sometime in the next year we won't be able to find a true conservative who can run, win and serve with due respect for the constitution.

321 posted on 03/04/2007 2:37:56 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Al Simmons

Rudy is never going to win the nomination. It's over. Quit beating this dead horse.


322 posted on 03/04/2007 2:38:03 PM PST by bluetone006 (Peace - or I guess war if given no other option)
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To: nopardons

So? This suit is reason enough not to vote for this gungrabber.


323 posted on 03/04/2007 2:38:11 PM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: oceanview
I am coining a new phrase for you folks (not you Howlin,Al) - the "Katherine Harris" wing of the republican party.

That's her fault for running a weak campaign.

324 posted on 03/04/2007 2:38:43 PM PST by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: PhiKapMom
They better think long and hard and not pull a stunt like they did in 2006 because they will lose their seat at the table when we win in Nov 2008 without their support if we have to.

And what of the other GOP candidates who will appear on the 2008 ticket? That's what few folks want to acknowledge; a Rudy nomination will result in disaster for downticket races. It will also dry up much of the legwork/volunteerism. While the socons may be an inconvenience to many in the GOP, the fact of the matter is that independents don't donate their time and money to elect candidates.

325 posted on 03/04/2007 2:39:08 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: nopardons
And NO, no matter how many times you call us other things, we are Conservatives.

What exactly is it that you wish to conserve?

326 posted on 03/04/2007 2:39:16 PM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: don-o

America from the likes of Rudy for one..


327 posted on 03/04/2007 2:39:58 PM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Exactly! It is going to be interesting and I am enjoying this election a lot!


328 posted on 03/04/2007 2:40:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: Al Simmons
I do not believe that his presidency will be as liberal as you fear it will be.

Why not support a candidate whose presidency WE KNOW won't be liberal? It makes zero sense to "cross our fingers and hope for the best" when we have genuine conservatives running. And don't talk about "name recognition" or "front runner status" nonsense unless you want to explain why Scoop Jackson, Paul Tsongas, Gary Hart and other such men were never even nominated much less elected.

329 posted on 03/04/2007 2:40:49 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: oceanview
someone has to be the nominee. Gingrich and Fred Thompson are on the fence. at some point, we have to play the hand being dealt.

Why?

330 posted on 03/04/2007 2:40:57 PM PST by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: don-o; nopardons
What exactly is it that you wish to conserve?

Isn't it obvious? Power.

331 posted on 03/04/2007 2:40:59 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: darkangel82
And Katherine Harris - as cute as she was ;>) was HATED by the media and that, as much as her dismal campaign, helped to destroy her candidacy for the Senate.

Rudy is also hated by the MSM, but has the highest positive ratings among the American people, and is so far running a smart campaign.

BIG difference there.

Oh, and wasn't Katherine Harris a "socon"?

Funny that someone earlier compared her with Rudy!!!!!

332 posted on 03/04/2007 2:41:17 PM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: Al Simmons

333 posted on 03/04/2007 2:41:20 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: muir_redwoods
And a 1st!
334 posted on 03/04/2007 2:42:12 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses

Oh goodie, narses spam. What a surprise.


335 posted on 03/04/2007 2:42:43 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: supercat

"I believe that as the difference between Rudy Giliani and Mitt Romney become apparent, this will be good for Romney and bad for Giuliani."

I agree with that. I really don't know much about Romney; I've never even heard him speak. I am not just looking for a candidate who holds similar views, but a candidate who can get the country behind him, and get things done. I think Giuliani could be that guy, but maybe not the only guy.


336 posted on 03/04/2007 2:43:01 PM PST by Big E
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To: narses

Oh goodie. More narses spam.

You could knock me over with a feather.


337 posted on 03/04/2007 2:43:50 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Liz
Rudy's activities are so heinous, the retelling SOUNDS like criticism.

Touché

338 posted on 03/04/2007 2:43:54 PM PST by jla
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To: FreeReign

The republicans don't deserve my vote anytime, they have to earn it. In the primary or in the general.


339 posted on 03/04/2007 2:44:05 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter / Thompson......Gonzo politics)
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To: wouldntbprudent

From my statement posted to FR's home page many moons ago:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.

If you can't figure out my answer to Rudy, you're lacking an important understanding of FReep.


340 posted on 03/04/2007 2:44:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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