More inconvenient truths

Toronto Sun ^ | 2007-03-04 | Lorrie Goldstein

[Clive]

[goldstategop]

Liberalism doesn't add up. Its prescriptions are insane.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[all the best]

Planting trees to offset carbon emissions. Maybe. Just keep in mind that trees wick moisture out of the ground. Massive tree planting would lead to ecological disaster.

[Ikemeister]

"Unless you think ideology is more important than humanity."


That's the point exactly. The neo-fascists (liberals) do think that their ideology IS more important than humanity.

[FreePaul]

The global warming, green, etc. movements are driven by emotion rather than any rational thought or science. That is why they appeal to most liberals and other non-thinkers.

[sgtbono2002]

Al Gore will get a piece of every carbon credit sold.

Nice scam this carbon credit scheme. I wish I had gotten in on the ground floor.

[Max in Utah]

Just keep in mind that trees wick moisture out of the ground. Massive tree planting would lead to ecological disaster.

On the other hand, trees provide shade for the surrounding ground which reduces surface temperature resulting in a lower evaporation rate. I think the net outcome would depend on the soil conditions in the particular area. Deep soil which can absorb rainwater should support the trees.

[Chena]

BTTT

[gathersnomoss]

Amway Gore

[RichInOC]

I beg to differ. Ethanol can be very cool...especially on the rocks.

[gathersnomoss]

And just exactly what does this have to do with a liberal cause?

[nh1]

The numbers don't add up. How can a return flight from Toronto to Vancouver injects 5.4 tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere per passenger.

I looked up how much CO2 a burning a gallon of gas creates, I'm assuming aviation fuel would be about the same. It's 20 lb of CO2 per gallon of gas.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/co2.shtml

I also looked up the average fuel efficiency of a jet. It's 78 passenger miles per gallon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency_in_transportation

If you do the math, creating 5.4 tons of CO2 should take 540 gallons of fuel, which should take you about 42,120 miles.

They must be taking the long way from Toronto to Vancouver!

[ExSafecracker]

This writer states

"A return flight from Toronto to Vancouver injects 5.4 tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere per passenger."

Assuming the plane carries 100 people, thats 500 tons of
emissions per flight. It is a wonder they can even get that plane off the ground!

[Diana in Wisconsin]

I absolutely believe that our climate is warming up. Do I believe I am the culprit? Absolutely not.

Are people making money off of this scam? Absolutely. And if I were morally bankrupt, being the Good Little Capitalist I am, I would be, too.

Anyone that has ever gotten off of their couch and done any amount of traveling around the globe can easily see how vast and mighty Earth is. We are insignificant fleas on the back of Mother Earth. She flicks us off at will on a daily basis...and there is little we can do about it other than not living on a Flood Plain or in Tornado Alley, at Sea Level or on a Fault line.

And even then, if she's gunning for you, you don't stand much of a chance. :)

[no-to-illegals]

carbon in the atmosphere? without it we don't exist
Since yes we (our bodies) are made up of carbon.
Wait that may be the solution .....
we need less carbon in the atmosphere,
therefore we need more carbon useage
which equals we need more people
and we can then remove more carbon into our offspring
and we can do it for the environment
so far I like this plan......yuk yuk yuk......

[Doc91678]

Sounds like the Social Security Ponzi scheme all over again. Except this time they are playing Russian Roulette with our future lives.

[Moonman62]

I don't understand the problem. CO2 is all natural, and all we're doing is returning CO2 to the atmosphere that was taken out in the past. Plus, plants love it.

[NicknamedBob]

"The only way to be "carbon neutral" when flying is to get off the plane before it takes off."

Another way would be to convert all passenger jets to hydrogen fuel. Burning hydrogen produces only water. While water vapor is a so-called greenhouse gas, the emission of water vapor from jets is usually called a contrail, a condensation trail. It is a long threadlike cloud.

And clouds reflect sunlight, cooling the Earth.

Of course, where would we get all that hydrogen? We would have to build many new nuclear power plants just for jet hydrogen. We might as well put them near the airports, and use them for both electrical energy production and hydrogen manufacturing.

Trees are useful, too. In addition to providing food crops, shade, and building materials, they stabilize soil and soak up carbon dioxide, making it easier to sequester it if you choose to do so. I'll take a few tons of sequestered carbon for my library, thank you.

[Max in Utah]

And just exactly what does this have to do with a liberal cause?

Why don't you read the article and the following comments then figure it out for yourself?