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From Giuliani comes a revealing rant
CONCORD MONITOR ^ | 25 FEBRUARY 2007 | Hillary Nelson

Posted on 02/25/2007 12:22:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Temper, thin skin may hurt candidate

Have you ever noticed how really macho guys will dress in drag at the drop of a hat? Try inviting a football team to a Halloween party and you'll see what I mean. I don't know why this is so, but it is. Which is why the video of Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani that's burning up You Tube, in which America's Mayor dresses in swishy silk, red lipstick and a blond wig, doesn't seem entirely out of character.

Recorded for a press roast in 2000, the video also features a lascivious Donald Trump (playing himself) fondling Hizzoner's (Herroner's?) pneumatic breasts.

Creepy, yes. Misogynistic, yes. Embarrassing, you bet. But not necessarily out of character for a man who'd spent most of his career being a professional tough guy. And not out of character for a lame-duck mayor, unpopular with much of his constituency, who believed that his political career was at an end. Who, a year before his reputation would be resurrected in the wake of 9/11, had no idea that he'd ever be running for president.

The terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center changed Giuliani's fortunes in the space of a few days. His relentless on-camera stoicism in the first hours after the Trade Center collapsed - when our president looked like a deer caught in the headlights and the vice president was nowhere to be seen - calmed a terrified nation.

When several days later Oprah Winfrey dubbed Giuliani "America's Mayor," even Giulani's critics, and there were many, couldn't argue with the honorific. He was even named Time's Person of the Year.

Since then, based on that one horrible day in his long political career, Giuliani has built a multimillion-dollar consulting company. He commands astronomical fees for speaking engagements. And he's announced he's running for president. In fact, recent polling data (realclearpolitics.com) show Giuliani with a nearly 15 percent average lead over his closest competitor, John McCain.

But now that he's taken such a commanding lead, Giuliani is going to face scrutiny of his career before 9/11 and since. And frankly, his turn as a drag queen is going to be the least of his worries.

Giuliani is a problematic candidate for the Christian conservative wing of the Republican Party. He started his political career as a Democrat and still maintains liberal positions on abortion, gay rights and gun control. And then, Rudy isn't exactly a family values poster boy. He's been married three times. When he decided to leave his second wife and two children for his girlfriend, he held a press conference to announce it - without bothering to let his wife know about his plans.

The ferret fiasco

Although Giuliani may hope that his progressive social beliefs will win him a big cross-over vote from registered Democrats, revelations about his high-handed, autocratic mayoral style will certainly scare off lovers of free speech, freedom of the press and civil liberties.

Rudy's dislike of the press was notorious, earning him a reputation for "ridiculously thin skin and a mile-wide mean streak." He had a dreadful relationship with the black community, exacerbated by his stubborn support for the NYPD in the wake of police scandals involving the beating and sodomizing of a male prisoner and the shooting deaths of several unarmed men.

And then Giuliani became obsessed with seemingly minor issues in a way that seemed almost pathological. His attempt to cut funding for a Brooklyn art museum after it showed artwork he deemed offensive is perhaps the best known such incident.

But much more telling, I think, was his dust-up with the ferret lovers of New York City. In May 2001, the city council of New York considered doing away with a 1959 ban on owning ferrets. Giuliani was having none of it, calling ferrets wild animals like tigers. The ban remained in place.

When David Guthartz of New York Ferrets' Rights Advocacy called Giuliani's weekly radio program to press again for the rights of pet owners, the mayor went ballistic.

"There's something deranged about you," he told Guthartz. "The excessive concern that you have for ferrets is something you should examine with a therapist, not with me."

When the caller objected to the mayor's characterization, he was cut off.

Giuliani then began a three minute rant - a lifetime on radio - that reveals more about his own emotional issues than the caller's (you can listen to the entire segment at thislife.org, episode 146, 12/10/99). He comes across as an angry, rude man, disgusted by the very idea of ferrets, and revealingly conversant in the kind of psychobabble that people pick up in the therapist's office.

It's one of the funniest pieces of radio I've ever heard. Or rather, it would be funny if it weren't real. And if the man who made it weren't leading the early polls for the presidential nomination.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: animalhater; gungrabber; rudy; unhinged
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1 posted on 02/25/2007 12:22:30 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Have you ever noticed how really macho guys will dress in drag at the drop of a hat?

No, I haven't.

2 posted on 02/25/2007 12:27:47 PM PST by donna (NMMFF! - No more moral free fall!)
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To: donna

Obviously you never went to college frat parties...


3 posted on 02/25/2007 12:28:55 PM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: RockinRight

Or a biker Halloween party.....;D


4 posted on 02/25/2007 12:30:24 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The article says:

"And then Giuliani became obsessed with seemingly minor issues in a way that seemed almost pathological. His attempt to cut funding for a Brooklyn art museum after it showed artwork he deemed offensive is perhaps the best known such incident."

Yet the article doesn't mention the artwork in question. Interesting. It was a depiction of the Blessed Virgin Mary covered in elephant dung. Remember?


5 posted on 02/25/2007 12:30:52 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: donna

As I have stated a few times lately...I have noticed it. Fraternity guys, G.I.'s, members of lodges and football teams and unions etc. Not that I've ever understood it! But it seems to be a great source of fun for many to dress up like that, and it has gone on for literally centuries.


6 posted on 02/25/2007 12:31:06 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

IMO all these drag outfits just make Rudy look less uptight and virginal.


7 posted on 02/25/2007 12:31:32 PM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don't consider an intense dislike of the press or other 'baiters' a bad characteristic for a presidential candidate. I'm all for a straight-talking, 'up yours' type of answer when it's deserved. Just the opposite, this makes me want to vote for Rudy all the more.

But I'm not sure of his stance on illegal immigration yet, and tax cuts...developing.


8 posted on 02/25/2007 12:31:33 PM PST by wvobiwan (BOYCOTT Bank of Anti-America!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

OK, he's lost the ferret owners vote.


9 posted on 02/25/2007 12:32:02 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center changed Giuliani's fortunes in the space of a few days. His relentless on-camera stoicism in the first hours after the Trade Center collapsed - when our president looked like a deer caught in the headlights and the vice president was nowhere to be seen - calmed a terrified nation.

HUH?! Our President was at a elementary school reading to students there. What the hell was he supposed to do? This characterization that somehow Bush showed weakness is pure BS!

10 posted on 02/25/2007 12:33:52 PM PST by adm5
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To: wvobiwan

he is in favor of the mccain amnesty plan.

While he was mayor he fought the feds to maintain NY's sanctuary city status. Basically ignoring federal laws and harboring illegal aliens.


11 posted on 02/25/2007 12:34:35 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

People do silly stuff sometimes:') I'm more interested though in what he has done or not done regarding abortion, gun control, immigration, homosexual rights etc.


12 posted on 02/25/2007 12:34:36 PM PST by CindyDawg (Duncan Hunter Tagline in process)
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To: donna

>> No, I haven't.

Neither have I when it concerns modern Presidential candidates.


13 posted on 02/25/2007 12:34:52 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
In May 2001, the city council of New York considered doing away with a 1959 ban on owning ferrets. Giuliani was having none of it, calling ferrets wild animals like tigers. The ban remained in place.

... (you can listen to the entire segment at thislife.org, episode 146, 12/10/99).

????

Needless to say, episode 146 has nothing to do with Rudy from what I can tell.

14 posted on 02/25/2007 12:36:00 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
My first guess is that the author of this article, Hillary, will be voting for her namesake rather than any Republican. The psychoanalysis is just a way to make sure everyone knows Rudy dressed in drag for a fund raiser. One of the things the Democrats were very effective doing in 2006 was convincing Republican voters that their people weren't conservative enough. This allowed far more liberal Rats to take office.

i haven't decided on who to vote for in 08, either in primaries or the general election, but I do know I won't be taking advice from Democrats.

15 posted on 02/25/2007 12:36:21 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Why yes, I do have a stupid picture for any occasion)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"Disgusted by the very idea of ferrets"?



I doubt he would approve of my gators! Hell, 75% of the people in NYC are crazy, and the rest are therapists getting rich. Keep them all in NYC!


16 posted on 02/25/2007 12:36:28 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Rudy's dislike of the press was notorious, earning him a reputation for "ridiculously thin skin and a mile-wide mean streak."

My kinda guy.

He had a dreadful relationship with the black community, exacerbated by his stubborn support for the NYPD in the wake of police scandals involving the beating and sodomizing of a male prisoner and the shooting deaths of several unarmed men.

OK, I get it... Written by a lib in the hopes of driving a wedge between Giuliani and the GOP right wing. These guys just can't help interjecting their own opinions and blowing their cover.

17 posted on 02/25/2007 12:36:49 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

>>When David Guthartz of New York Ferrets' Rights Advocacy called Giuliani's weekly radio program to press again for the rights of pet owners, the mayor went ballistic.

"There's something deranged about you," he told Guthartz. "The excessive concern that you have for ferrets is something you should examine with a therapist, not with me."

When the caller objected to the mayor's characterization, he was cut off. <<

I have two ferrets. I am under no circumstance voting for Guiliani in the primary.

But I have to admit this radio exchange made me like him slightly more.


18 posted on 02/25/2007 12:37:14 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
He comes across as an angry, rude man, disgusted by the very idea of ferrets, and revealingly conversant in the kind of psychobabble that people pick up in the therapist's office.

I don't know if that reveals as much about Giuliani as it does about the kind of people who are drawn to political careers in general.

19 posted on 02/25/2007 12:37:39 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: adm5

Yeah, that part about the 'deer in the headlights' is a subtle warning that there is moon-battery just under the surface of this writer, well concealed - but it's there.

Presidents take a little longer to get moving, that's natural. But the Mayor of New York didn't bring down two terrorist regimes in the space of 1 term. Let's be real now. Rudy might be just as strong as President, but W has done a fairly solid job of kicking ass. W could do more, but it's hard carrying around a bunch of whiney defeatocrats and RINOs...


20 posted on 02/25/2007 12:37:47 PM PST by wvobiwan (BOYCOTT Bank of Anti-America!)
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