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Magnificently sophisticated geometric patterns in mediaeval Islamic architecture indicate their designers achieved a mathematical breakthrough 500 years earlier than Western scholars, scientists said on Thursday.

What they failed to say was their societal development and progress stopped right there.....

2 posted on 02/22/2007 6:18:03 PM PST by edpc (Watch this space)
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"Magnificently sophisticated geometric patterns in mediaeval Islamic architecture indicate their designers achieved a mathematical breakthrough 500 years earlier than Western scholars, scientists said on Thursday."

By hiring and working alongside Byzanitine designers and craftsmen.


18 posted on 02/22/2007 6:28:21 PM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: edpc
Magnificently sophisticated geometric patterns ...

Sounds like the same writer that found "complex fractals" in the weavings of primitive African tribes, and upped their mathematical accomplishments to greater than that of Euclid, Godel, Turing, and Newton.

105 posted on 02/22/2007 7:02:54 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: edpc
"What they failed to say was their societal development and progress stopped right there...."

AND that their so-called religious leaders have been striving mightily ever since to reverse what little progress was made.

136 posted on 02/22/2007 7:41:46 PM PST by Redbob
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To: edpc

It's also not even true. It's like saying that because the Egyptians knew that there were right triangles with sides of lengths 3, 4 and 5, they knew the Pythagorean theorem, in the sense of knowing it in full generality with a proof, centuries before Pythagoras. I've heard that claptrap spouted by 'multiculturalists' who want to claim with no basis that the Greeks got their culture from Africa.

What is true is that the Muslims, by conquering both the southern provinces of the Christian Roman Empire that had preserved classical Greek learning, including mathematics, and India, where the Hindus had made different advances in mathematics, were able to make a few advances, all of which were fairly obvious once one had digested both of the conquered cultures' mathematics.

As I pointed out in my last post, any finite tiling using 5 or 10 sided regular figures as major tiles will look a bit like a Penrose tiling. Claiming a 'mathematical breakthrough' on this basis is like equating a 3,4,5 right triangle with the Pythagorean theorem. Find a medieval Arabic text explaining how a pattern with local 5-fold symmetries can be extended without repetition to an arbitarily large region, and you can claim they beat Penrose by 500 year. A bit of flooring or wall tiles with pentagons or decagons is a doodle, not a mathematical breakthrough.


201 posted on 02/22/2007 9:15:45 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: edpc
What they failed to say was their societal development and progress stopped right there.....

That is true. Everything after that was just a re-hash of what went before. That's because the idea of REASON was tossed out, for the most part, in favor of the fatalism that passes for Islam today.

269 posted on 02/23/2007 9:43:32 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: edpc

The Egyptians had a steam engine. They just used it to raise and lower a gate. Nothing else. For some reason, (lack of freedom, a heavy caste system, no patent office, no capitalism, etc.) they never developed anything further.

For some reason, (lack of freedom, no patent office, backward ideas on everything else, no capitalism, etc.) the islamic world never understood or advanced beyond this questionable discovery). And... what is the greatness of this advanced geometry? Does it make space flight possible, does it allow the control of gravity, does it allow for anything practical or any invention in the entire universe, does it allow for the creation of any medicine, or anything?

By the way, what member of the satanic blood cult stole this idea from someone else?


275 posted on 02/23/2007 10:28:12 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen (Nancy Pelosi is Tokyo Rose)
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