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Incestuous German pair fight case
BBC News ^ | February 20 2007

Posted on 02/20/2007 7:57:39 PM PST by jmc1969

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To: DuncanWaring

"Genetically defective" is a charged term that reeks of eugenics. Furthermore, I maintain that it is not within the power of the state to regulate sex between two consenting individuals.


21 posted on 02/20/2007 8:30:46 PM PST by Millennial Minuteman
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To: Alter Kaker

Ah-ha! Thanks for clearing that up for us. ;o)


22 posted on 02/20/2007 8:32:11 PM PST by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: jmc1969

The EU is so open minded that their brains have fallen out


23 posted on 02/20/2007 8:36:28 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Choose Ye This Day

No, the next step is several males and females, then sheep and goats and dogs, THEN brothers and sisters.


24 posted on 02/20/2007 8:38:02 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Army Air Corps

"According to Spiegel online, while Patrick was in prison Susan had a fifth child with another man."

Good Lord


25 posted on 02/20/2007 8:38:20 PM PST by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Millennial Minuteman

Mr. Clinton you were banned in 98 and you really have to stop
getting posting names and posting here.


26 posted on 02/20/2007 8:38:56 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Millennial Minuteman
Furthermore, I maintain that it is not within the power of the state to regulate sex between two consenting individuals.

So which half are you, Siegmund or Sieglinde?

27 posted on 02/20/2007 8:39:36 PM PST by dighton
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To: Millennial Minuteman
I fail to understand why an incestuous couple damages the world around which they live

When animal breeders cross brother and sister, or parent and offspring for that matter, they expect a certain number of "culls". Those with very bad genetic characteristics which were suppressed in the parents but which both carried. If the offspring got one of those "bad" genes from each parent, then they would express the characteristic. A common such characteristic for humans is hemophilia, but there are other much worse ones.

Animal breeders kill, and in some cases eat, the culls. Not something one can do with human beings.... unless one believes in post birth abortion I suppose.

28 posted on 02/20/2007 8:40:33 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jmc1969

OMG, I am glad Germany is in the enlightened sphere of Europe and not in the South. The jokes and jabs would be relentless.


29 posted on 02/20/2007 8:42:03 PM PST by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Admin Moderator

Holy Mackerel! Gosh I wish I had known the degenerate one was posting before you banned that thing ... I wanted so badly to spit in his eye and insult the degenerate slug.


30 posted on 02/20/2007 8:42:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Apparently, that was just the warm-up.

Maybe they plan to start their own circus/freakshow and reduce operating costs by keeping it a family business.


31 posted on 02/20/2007 8:43:43 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: jmc1969

So... was West Virginia settled by mostly German Immigrants??


32 posted on 02/20/2007 8:43:47 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan
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To: Perdogg

Most European "royal" families kept to the 4 degrees of consanguity rule ~ you're thinking of the nobles. There anything went.


33 posted on 02/20/2007 8:44:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: DuncanWaring
Hemophilia did not arise because of incest. It's a result of a mutation of the type that occurs every now and then in all sorts of people. It is then passed along by the females in the line.

All incest does is increase the incidence of autosomal recessives occuring in the offspring. These are not "new genes", but "old genes" who are thereby given an opportunity to be expressed.

Almost everybody has some autosomal recessives.

34 posted on 02/20/2007 8:47:18 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: jmc1969

They're also being denied the right to a single strand of DNA for the kids.


35 posted on 02/20/2007 8:54:42 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: DuncanWaring
"Because such a union tends to produce genetically defective offspring."

The problem is that recessive traits, many of which harmful are more likely to be expressed. It's not a given that it would happen, just more likely.

On the other hand, inbreeding is also used by livestock breeders to fix particular characteristics in the breeding population. Maybe they just really want the kids to have a strong family resemblance.
36 posted on 02/20/2007 8:57:58 PM PST by ndt
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To: jmc1969
"They argue they are being denied the right to sexual freedom."

Given the success of the Gay Mafia, you just knew it was only a matter of time.

37 posted on 02/20/2007 9:00:03 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: jmc1969


EW!!!!!!!!!!!


38 posted on 02/20/2007 9:03:57 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: jmc1969

"The pair did not grow up together. Patrick, the brother, had been adopted by a couple from Potsdam while his sister, Susan, grew up with their mother.

But when he reached adulthood he wanted to track down his biological parents. He found his mother, and he met Susan.

About six months later, the mother died, and Patrick moved in with Susan. In 2001, their son, Erik, was born. He was subsequently taken into foster care.

Three more children were born between 2003 and 2005. In November of that year, the pair were tried for incest.

Patrick was sentenced to two-and-a-half years in prison. His sister, then 21, was put into the care of youth services. "


Well, they are both adults and while they may be technically breaking the law, but considering that they have four children, it hurts the children to have their parents locked up for a victimless crime. One would think the court would have some real criminals to prosecute.


39 posted on 02/20/2007 9:05:11 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: NeverForgetBataan
"Was West Virginia settled by mostly German Immigrants?"

Strange but True: West Virginia doesn't even permit first-cousin marriages.

http://www.cousincouples.com/info/states.shtml
40 posted on 02/20/2007 9:06:00 PM PST by decal (Too many people mistake "tolerance" for "approval.")
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