Posted on 02/19/2007 6:38:26 AM PST by meg88
Liberals & Democrats will agree with you.
It kind of summed up Kerry's sorry ass campaign.
To the contrary. Liberals loved his sleazy, trumped-up grandstanding prosecutions against entrepreneurs such as Michael Milliken. Rudy loved it to since it carried him into the mayor's office.
that's loved it "too."
I cannot vote for Giuliani.
On all issues, he is to the left of Joe Lieberman. Every one of them. Joe Lieberman is a democrat.
Giuliani is somewhere to the right of Hillary Clinton, but most sane people are to the right of Hillary Clinton. While I respect the accomplishments of Giuliani, but have no respect for Clinton, I believe that Giuliani's accomplishments were applicable only to NYC and do not translate into qualification for a Federal position.
I view a Clinton/Giuliani choice as a choice between two hard-core anti-Constitutional leftists. I cannot, in good conscience, vote for either one.
What's confounding about it?
Whether you are for Rudy, against him, on the fence or passionately hate him, you have to acknowledge a few facts.
He not only managed NYC, he did it well. Crime dropped and it was a much better place to be.
NYC is not just any municipality. It's the largest city in the nation. Its population is larger that 45 STATES -- much more than the entire state of Arkansas, which saw its governor spend 8 years in the Oval Office.
NYC is also a national and global city. It is a center of commerce for the entire nation and (like it or hate it) the United Nations is here. It's a giant melting pot where over 100 languages and dialects are spoken. The mayor of NYC deals with dignitaries from around the world and has ample reason for trips abroad (rather than excuses for meaningless junkets).
And, unlike some former NYC mayors, Rudy has gotten deserved national attention for the role he played after 9/11. For the past five years, he has stumped for Republicans and has always been a big drawer.
Why would anyone think that he wouldn't be a player in this election? Again, like him or hate him, Rudy is on par with Hillary for national exposure, and leagues beyond when it comes to experience.
Anyone else in the race that underestimates Rudy will fall to Rudy. Frankly, I don't think any of the GOP candidates underestimate Rudy at all. Just the media.
TS
Sure, crime dropped in New York. It also dropped under Clinton nationwide. Does that mean that we should support another term for Bill?
Crime dropped in NYC because of Rudy, it dropped at a much faster pace. The national figures look good for Clinton because of people like Rudy that took the bull by the horns and actually did something about it. You couldn't credit Clinton for the drop in crime.
Fair enough. Rudy also praises New York gun laws for makign this drop possible. Do you agree with him?
Congratulations! Dumbest post I have read today.
Nominating Guiliani, an American cross-dresser, would complete the switch of the GOP from the party of American interest conservatives to the party of international interest lobbyists. Unfortunately so would McCain. Woe is US.
Nominating Guiliani, an American cross-dresser, would complete the switch of the GOP from the party of American interest conservatives to the party of international interest lobbyists. Unfortunately so would McCain. Woe is US.
George W. Bush is not a Reagan Republican. He's a liberal who did not have a party, because the Democrat party has become the party not of liberalism, but of perversion. So the liberals who did not support perversion came over to the Republican camp.
Rudy would take that distinction away from Republicans as well. I'm not sure what would define the Republican party if he were to win the nomination.
Shalom.
No. They don't. They seem to enjoy the ones that they have.
Or were you refering to the MURDER, RAPE and VIOLENT CRIME statistics, all of which PLUMMETED under Guiliani. Folks around the country seemed to like those stats just the way they were. Yessirree, Bob! I don't recall any major city (or even any minor) one that had Murder, Arson, or Rape stats of zero, so they ALL had room for improvement. Stat-wise cutting 2 to 1 is a 50% drop, so those small cities shouldn't have had a problem slashing their violent crime rates.
And, please, note my original post, which was not an endorsement of Rudy, but an indictment of anyone who thought that he wasn't going to be a player in this election cycle.
Again, I'm curious. Do you agree with Rudy's praise of New York gun laws (not to mention his similar praise for the Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban) for helping to bring about this drop?
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