[Pete]

The secular left spend 30 years indoctrinating children against the traditional family and then wonder why those same children, when grown, don't pursue it. What really gets me is that they are so busy with their theoretical social agendas that they forget that actions have real consequences.

[Obadiah]

You are right. Not sure if there is any data to prove this, but I would guess that marriage rates might coincide along red-state, blue-state break downs in a manner that family size and abortion rates do.

[dan1123]

What really gets me is that they are so busy with their theoretical social agendas that they forget that actions have real consequences.

The left's attitude toward moral misbehavior is to try to have the government take care of the consequences. However, whatever the government subsidizes, society gets more of. So now we have broken families subsidized by liberal governmental policies.

Now we've gone so far that moral misbehavior has to be treated as the same as moral behavior by government in things like "gay marriage". It's all in the name of tolerance and diversity. It's the core belief difference in liberal vs. conservative. Liberals think that people are basically good and have to be helped by government when bad things happen. Conservatives believe that people are basically bad and need to be encouraged by government to be good.

Guess which one pans out historically?