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Utah mall gunman was Srebrenica survivor, cousin says
CNN ^ | 15 Feb 2007 | Reuters

Posted on 02/15/2007 8:28:40 AM PST by Red6

CERSKA, Bosnia (Reuters) -- The 18-year-old gunman who shot five people to death in a Salt Lake City, Utah, shopping mall was a survivor of the siege that ended in the Srebrenica massacre of 8,000 Muslims in Bosnia's 1992-95 war, a cousin said on Wednesday.

Sulejman Talovic, who was killed by police after Monday's shooting spree in which he also wounded four people, fled his village with his family during the Bosnia war to Srebrenica, a U.N.-protected enclave, Redzo Talovic said.

They spent two years in the town, during which Bosnian Serb forces besieged the enclave and Talovic's grandfather was killed by shellfire, Redzo Talovic said.

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Coincidentally CNN makes no mention that this poor abused disturbed young youth (As they presented him) was part of the "Religion of peace."

CNN, why do you neglect to mention that minor detail?

1 posted on 02/15/2007 8:28:44 AM PST by Red6
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To: Red6
In long lasting liberal tradition, the victims are the culprits and the culprits the victims. This article is near "apologetic" for what he did. They don't mention what religion he is out of Political Correctness and bias. This is awful reporting.
3 posted on 02/15/2007 8:31:07 AM PST by Red6 (Come and get it.)
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To: Red6

So this muslim shows his gratitude by killing those who saved him.


Parable of the scorpian and the frog, anyone?


4 posted on 02/15/2007 8:31:18 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Red6
They spent two years in the town, during which Bosnian Serb forces besieged the enclave and Talovic's grandfather was killed by shellfire, Redzo Talovic said.

I notice that they neglect to mention that he's a Muslim, and I also notice that they are painting him out as some kind of victim.

Disgusting.

5 posted on 02/15/2007 8:31:52 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA (Paul/Tancredo 2008)
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To: Red6
It's still no excuse for what he done...


6 posted on 02/15/2007 8:31:57 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Red6
Utah mall gunman was Srebrenica survivor, cousin says

If only the Serbs had done their job, those people in Utah would be alive today.

7 posted on 02/15/2007 8:32:41 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: Red6

Dang those Serbs for missing this one. And dang our asylum immigration laws for letting this little Muslim POS and his family enter our country and go immediately on welfare. I saw in the Times this morning that his aunt is blaming whoever sold him the guns.


8 posted on 02/15/2007 8:33:55 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: Red6

In another posting, a freeper clarified he left 2 years before this. Anyone confirm this?


9 posted on 02/15/2007 8:36:31 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Red6

"survivor of the siege that ended in the Srebrenica massacre of 8,000 Muslims in Bosnia's 1992-95 war"

It's a good thing we didn't have a Republican in the White House from 1992-95, or we know who would be getting the blame for the Trolley Square masacre.


10 posted on 02/15/2007 8:36:48 AM PST by Spok
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To: Red6
Ah....so let me get this straight. This member of the Religion of Peace® survived an alleged massacre of 8,000 OTHER members of the Religion of Peace®, the Americans went in there UNILATERALLY, bashed the Serbs and made them second class citizens in favor of the members of the Religion of Peace®, so THIS member of the Religion of Peace® comes to the US and massacres citizens of the same country that fought on HIS SIDE?

Do I have this straight?

We, the unwilling, doing the impossible for the ungrateful with nothing.

Am I supposed to feel sorry for this terrorist?

11 posted on 02/15/2007 8:38:24 AM PST by cake_crumb (When "bipartisan study groups" prosecute wars, you get Another Viet Nam)
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To: Red6

CNN, why do you neglect to mention that minor detail?
= = =

Because faithful traitorous, treasonous, tyrannical global government puppet master idiot Ted Turner . . . who forbade "foreign" to ever be used on CNN

has ordered it . . . or some other puppet master has ordered it--for the whole MSM.

I'd rather all humans repent and experience the Salvation of Jesus Christ.

But if there are puppet masters beyond home, Lord, then please, remove them from public life and any and all power as thoroughly and speedily and humiliatingly as possible.


12 posted on 02/15/2007 8:38:40 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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To: Red6

Yeah, so?

Were Auschwitz survivors shooting up random people in the 1950's?

Were Cuban Castro survivors shooting up random people in the 1960's?

Were Cambodian Pol Pot survivors shooting up random people in the 1980's?


13 posted on 02/15/2007 8:39:33 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Red6
So if he was a 'victim' shouldn't we treat the other 'victims' so that they all don't go off on murderous rampages? Was this victims 'treatment' inappropriate?
14 posted on 02/15/2007 8:40:26 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: 3AngelaD

We can thank slick willie for taking the side of the islamic fundamentalists against our allies, the Serbs.


15 posted on 02/15/2007 8:41:23 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: Alouette

How dare you introduce logic to the victimization theory!


17 posted on 02/15/2007 8:42:27 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: 3AngelaD
...I saw in the Times this morning that his aunt is blaming whoever sold him the guns.

aunt says it all; nuttin else to say on this item-time to move on....

18 posted on 02/15/2007 8:43:24 AM PST by 1234 (HELP Chrissie Matthews get the "O-Bomb" the Democratic nomination)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
"Victim" ping!

Some very interesting posts on this thread...

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

19 posted on 02/15/2007 8:43:37 AM PST by nutmeg (National Security trumps everything else.)
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To: Spok
It's a good thing we didn't have a Republican in the White House from 1992-95, or we know who would be getting the blame for the Trolley Square masacre.

Excellent point.

20 posted on 02/15/2007 8:44:59 AM PST by nutmeg (National Security trumps everything else.)
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To: Red6
Utah mall gunman was Srebrenica survivor, cousin says

...and everybody knows that the Mormons were complicit in that crime against humanity so that explains shooting up a mall. /s

21 posted on 02/15/2007 8:45:43 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

Was he on meds as well?


22 posted on 02/15/2007 8:45:50 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: PeterPrinciple
In another posting, a freeper clarified he left 2 years before this. Anyone confirm this?

Yes, I read this in the newspaper account. Also, if you do the math it shows that he was four years old at the time. Typical Muslim BS ... they are always the victim.

23 posted on 02/15/2007 8:46:03 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Red6
Utah mall gunman was Srebrenica survivor, cousin says

Well, that makes everything all right, then!

/sarc

24 posted on 02/15/2007 8:46:35 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Owl_Eagle

"Oh well, 8,000 potential terrorist isn't bad."

Count among the ones they missed the girl who spent her high school years living with my BIL and SIL after her parents sent her to the U.S. For two years I was unaware that she was even muslim. She graduated from an American high school with honors, returned to Europe for college and vet school, and is now a veterinarian and researcher. I know this will surprise you, but the whole time she was here she failed to shoot anybody, blow anything up, or even threaten anybody.


25 posted on 02/15/2007 8:48:59 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: Red6
Wow... CNN makes a good point!

Our open door policy to 'victims' and 'refuges' has loaded our country with MILLIONS OF TICKING TIME BOMBS

Is that the point of their story???

26 posted on 02/15/2007 8:49:13 AM PST by nctexan
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To: OldFriend

Congress went along with it and funded it. At the time I couldn't figure out why we were siding with the Muslims against the Christian Serbs. At the least we could have butted out.


27 posted on 02/15/2007 8:49:59 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: layman

The timeline never does add up! Lies damned lies and more lies masquerading as excuses.


28 posted on 02/15/2007 8:50:11 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: OldFriend; joan; A. Pole; Honorary Serb

What's weird is that no one in the press is capable of comprehending or reporting the truth, which is that despite what you may assume about a "UN safe haven" the Muslim MILITARY FORCES in Srebrenica (under the bloodthirsty Nasir Oric) went out and massacred thousands of Serbs in surrounding villages.

Hence 1) the Serbs would have been justified in killing the Mulsim military forces as revenge;
2) but they didn't!
3) Srebrenica as an anti-Serb rallying cry is an hoax.


29 posted on 02/15/2007 8:52:56 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: MeanWestTexan
So this muslim shows his gratitude by killing those who saved him.

Infidels are Infidels no matter where you find them. - tom

30 posted on 02/15/2007 8:53:54 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: OldFriend

I don't buy the "slaughtered" figures either. Or the "innocents" for that matter.


31 posted on 02/15/2007 8:54:27 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Red6
It will remain a part of the Impeached President's legacy, that he came in on the WRONG SIDE of the war in Serbia.....

The Democrats, currently screaming over the claim they were lied to about the justification for war against Iraq -- are SILENT over the lies told of 100,000 Muslims slain by the Serbs in their "Ethnic Cleansing" operation.....

Would that it were true.... Perhaps this murderous sonuvabitch would have been among the "cleansed"....

A far stronger case of Muslim "ethnic cleansing" of Christians and Christian Churches in Kosovo could be proved.

Semper Fi

32 posted on 02/15/2007 8:55:06 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: gracesdad

They're called "sleepers".

She's probably testing the fatal dose rates of sarin and sending the info to Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Hats off to your BIL and SIL for helping our enemies.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.


33 posted on 02/15/2007 8:55:46 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Red6
I think their end game is beginning to become clear based on the following article.

"In the Fight Against Terrorism, Some Rights Must Be Repealed
By Junaid Afeef
ISPU Research Associate
http://www.ispu.us/pages/articles/2914/articleDetailPB.html

So long as guns remain available to the general public, there will always be the threat of terrorists walking into a crowded restaurant, a busy coffee shop or a packed movie theater and opening fire upon unsuspecting civilians.

The Second Amendment is not worth such risks."

This appears to be a Muslim front organization based on its list of scholars.

I am beginning to believe this and the other attacks by "misguided young muslims" is designed to get the "we must protect everyone crowd in congress" to call for more gun control and prevention of hate speech. I Remember the "We will bury you from within" speech by Nikita Khrushchev many years ago. It is happening NOW. Maybe not the Russians but the mussies listened and learned from the weakness of our left. They want us disarmed and speechless.
34 posted on 02/15/2007 8:55:55 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: Red6
This article implies a dangerous rationale. If being saved from a life threatening situation is reason for a person to go off the deep end and murder large numbers of the culture that saved the individual, then we should expect many other ethnic groups to "snap" and become mass murders. At present, at least, this is not happening.

We don't have, say, Vietnamese youths taking shotguns to malls, attacking Israeli airline counters, being snipers randomly killing people, attacking charity offices, etc. What is different here? It is the religion!!!I repeat what I said on another thread, we need to know as much as is possible about this young man and what motivated him. Does he have like minded friends in SLC or did he internalize his hatred? What chat room and web sites might he have visited? What were his reading habits. What does the cleric at his Mosque preach about? Not all Bosnian Muslims believe as he did, so what sent him into action? An unemotional examination of the background of this fellow needs to be made and made public.

35 posted on 02/15/2007 8:56:46 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: river rat

Clinton did nothing when 1 million were slaughtered in Rwanda, but when a few Muslims die in a civil war it was "Bombs Over Belgrade."


36 posted on 02/15/2007 8:56:48 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: layman
...he was four years old at the time...And the article says he fled the city with his family, as if he was in charge. In actuality, his family fled the city, taking him along. But don't expect anyone in mainstream media "journalism" to be asked to have any instruction in the English language as part of their education.
37 posted on 02/15/2007 8:57:42 AM PST by webheart
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To: Red6

It appears that only individual Muslims are responsible for specific crimes, whereas all Christians are responsible for the wrongdoing of specific Christians.


38 posted on 02/15/2007 9:01:47 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: PeterPrinciple

Yes. The perp's family left two years before the massacre. The MSM is creating confusion on this fact to create sympathy.


39 posted on 02/15/2007 9:04:51 AM PST by khnyny
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To: gracesdad

I would not consider her a true koran abiding muslim any more than I would consider Timothy McVeigh a Christian.


40 posted on 02/15/2007 9:08:15 AM PST by FNG
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To: OldFriend

Milosovich had it right.


41 posted on 02/15/2007 9:08:52 AM PST by jdsteel ('nuff said (old Marvel Comics reference....))
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To: 3AngelaD

I still believe Slick Clinton had us on the wrong side of that conflict, on the side of Muslims as he did in several other cases, in order to foster a Israeli/Palestinian peace settlement brokered by him. That would win him a Nobel Peace prize and he would go down in history for that, rather than for being Monica Lewinsky's boyfriend that didn't have sex with her.


42 posted on 02/15/2007 9:10:05 AM PST by RatRipper
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To: CrawDaddyCA

"I notice that they neglect to mention that he's a Muslim, and I also notice that they are painting him out as some kind of victim."

So if you're a Muslim with a gripe, they will condone your shooting people in a mall.


43 posted on 02/15/2007 9:12:25 AM PST by popdonnelly (Conservatives must have their own long march through the institutions.)
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To: 3AngelaD; All

The puppet masters identified Billdo Dillbo Dilldo and Shrillery Klintoon as up and coming Corrupt Commie globalist idiots early in their university years.

They then set about grooming them carefully to play the roles as ordered. Given the duo's power mongering obsessions, that was easy.

The war in the Balkins was tailor made to help begin the whole terror/Jihadi thing with lots of preliminary bloodshed and winding up of passions and hostilities.

Klintoon was just a willing puppet. Congress was stupid enough, coerced enough, ?threatened enough? to go along with it.

It made no sense at the time in terms of our values or our interests. But it sure made sense to the puppet masters globalist plans to spawn hatred and bloodshed on a growing scale to scare the world's citizens into a global government . . . the old safety instead of freedom angle.


44 posted on 02/15/2007 9:16:44 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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To: RatRipper

Yes, Slick was responsible, his point person being the lovely Richard Holbrooke. But Congress enabled them.


45 posted on 02/15/2007 9:17:46 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

What's weird is that no one in the press is capable of comprehending or reporting the truth, which is that despite what you may assume about a "UN safe haven" the Muslim MILITARY FORCES in Srebrenica (under the bloodthirsty Nasir Oric) went out and massacred thousands of Serbs in surrounding villages.
= = =

Of course. The puppet masters through Russia and directly has spent decades co-opting, consuming, absolutely controlling and buying out the press, the universities, hollyweed, congress, . . . . for at least 50 years and some say much longer.

Ted Turner may be the most obvious example but he's merely a Johnny come lately in terms of traitorous media folks.


46 posted on 02/15/2007 9:18:54 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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To: Red6; All

Notice how ALL the MSM has dropped this story like a hot potato.

NOT EVEN THE BRADY CAMPAIGN is touching this one!


The headline should scream


"UTAH GUNMAN WAS MOSLEM"

This was a suicide by homicide as is part of the religion of peace.


47 posted on 02/15/2007 9:19:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 3AngelaD

Holbrooke was an old time dyed in the wool globalist before Dilldo Willy was an ex spurt.


48 posted on 02/15/2007 9:21:51 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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To: Quix

Don't ALL AP wire stories get routed through NY and all CNN stories get routed through atlanta?

It seems with all print essentially at one focal point, and all video at another focal point, the left wing bias is firmly protected.


49 posted on 02/15/2007 9:21:57 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Quix

Yup. He and Strobe Talbott came out of the same test tube.


50 posted on 02/15/2007 9:23:23 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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