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Simple question about WMDs

Posted on 02/11/2007 10:13:28 AM PST by xmission

I can't for the life of me understand the fact that our leaders do not bring up the 500 mustard and sarin filled shells that have been found since entering Iraq.

Our guys just seem to fold. We have legitimate proof, but everyone caves on this... Why?

Even if you accept that they were no longer powerful enough to cause damage (which I don't), we have found WMDS.. period.


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1 posted on 02/11/2007 10:13:30 AM PST by xmission
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To: xmission

Every time we are confronted with the "No WMDs" argument on tv we fold...


2 posted on 02/11/2007 10:14:15 AM PST by xmission
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To: xmission

..and 500 tons of Yellowcake!!!


3 posted on 02/11/2007 10:14:45 AM PST by Young Werther
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It's sort of like the old TV show Hogan's Heroes. Every time there was an escape from Stalag 13, Col. Klink found a way to explain why it wasn't an escape. Either the prisoner hadn't been officially enrolled, prisoner was assumed shot while escaping, etc.



4 posted on 02/11/2007 10:16:48 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: xmission
Also found were Zippe Centrifuges

5 posted on 02/11/2007 10:19:00 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHVH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya’aqob.”Isaiah 60:16)
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This drives me batty. I bring up the point with dems, and they come back with "If it is true, why isn't Bush saying it?"...


6 posted on 02/11/2007 10:19:36 AM PST by xmission
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To: XeniaSt

Would you have a link to the find? I've compiled quite a list of WMD articles, I'd like to add information about this.


7 posted on 02/11/2007 10:21:01 AM PST by xmission
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I can't understand why when the liberals say the administration lied about WMD, Republicans don't point out that even Saddam acted like he believed he had WMD.


8 posted on 02/11/2007 10:21:05 AM PST by Nephi (Open borders is the other side of the globalist free trade coin. W and Rudy are globalists.)
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Because to bolster the "BIG LIE" no matter how much they found, it would never be "enough"


9 posted on 02/11/2007 10:21:18 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: xmission

bush et. al. decided to play new england elite pansie wimps when it came to confronting domestic terrorism, aka democrats and the socialist media.

no one knows exactly why the gop lost its collective balls

there is no leadership from the white house, which is stuck in a charlie brown/lucy football kick pattern when it comes to bi-partisan policy with the democrats

it was a strategic disaster to try to play nice, and you have expressed the frustration most of us have felt for years with bush and the gop

rudy giuliani's most prominent strengths are strong, articulate leadership, and a willingness to come out swinging at the democrats and the media

for this reason alone he would deserve my support

his proven success in supporting gop candidates and swaying voters, support the war on terrorism, fighting crime, lowering taxes, selecting judges, etc. are big picture issues that make him irresistible - he is the right man for the job


10 posted on 02/11/2007 10:23:18 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (the agenda of the media will come to full fruition when they carry ak-47s and shoot at our troops)
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here's one for ya..I got into a discussion with a moonbat in baton rouge and he stated we hadn't found WMD's..I then asked him, in his own words and his own definition, to define what a WMD was..I asked him to tell me how many people must die, in one event, with one weapon, at one location, before it's considered a WMD..10? 20? 100? 1000?..he couldn't answer, but continued with his argument that none had been found..

my statement to him was, if you can't define it, how can you say none have been found? I reminded him of the sarin tipped mortars and asked him if these were WMD'S..he again avoided answering..I then asked him why he was expecting TONS AND TONS of WMD'S to be found, when by definition a WMD is easily concealable and able to kill thousands..he again had no answer..last thing he said before he stormed off was to call me a right-wing conspirator..

can't answer the questions so he calls me names..I put that one in the win column..:)


11 posted on 02/11/2007 10:23:50 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider.....www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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The media accepted the fact that the WMD threat was real while Clinton was in office. The change in stance is %100 percent political and beyond loathsome. The fact is that he already used them (WMDs) on Iranians, Iraqis, and Kurds. I said this to a hardcore dem onetime and he had a mini meltdown and started babbling something about Halliburton...


12 posted on 02/11/2007 10:24:49 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: xmission

Because they are Republicans?

Seriously, the road to insanity is trying to find rational reasons for irrational behavior. So, I have no answers.


13 posted on 02/11/2007 10:24:58 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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To: xmission

Something... either sinister or stupid.


14 posted on 02/11/2007 10:25:01 AM PST by BigFinn
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
can't answer the questions so he calls me names..I put that one in the win column..:)

:) I experience that one at least weekly. They explode when they don't have answers.

According to sources, each shell was capable of killing about 3,000 people. That means that we've found enough WMD killing power in these 500 shells to kill about 1.5 million people...
15 posted on 02/11/2007 10:27:14 AM PST by xmission
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To MOST people, WMD = Nukes.

And, even then...they've got to be loaded on ICBM's in order to qualify as a "real" threat.

People's eyes just glaze over when you mention Chemical or Biological Warfare. There's just too many people willing to believe "it can't happen HERE"...any yet there is NO way to protect a civilian population from such an attack.

Let's face it. Most Americans are rather provincial as well in their thinking. Just because Saddam may have gassed a bunch of Iranian soldiers or even tens of thousands of Kurds...they feel immune to the reality.

You will never find the current immigration dwelling publicly on the likelihood of such an attack and/or how ill-prepared we are as a country to repel such a horror. The public would no doubt panic if they realized how real the threat is along with how little we can do about it.

I'm talking about PREVENTING such an attack...not merely hospitalizing victims or doing hazmat "containment".

Until people actually SEE thousands of their countrymen writhing about on the ground, bleeding from their eyes, this is very unlikely to change.


16 posted on 02/11/2007 10:29:11 AM PST by JB in Whitefish
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To: JB in Whitefish


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17 posted on 02/11/2007 10:30:30 AM PST by xmission
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1.5 million people...

Is that more or less than global warming?

18 posted on 02/11/2007 10:30:52 AM PST by woofie
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You aren't talking about chemcal stashes, now are you?

19 posted on 02/11/2007 10:31:26 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There oughta be a law against excess legislation.)
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Don't forget the other idiot logic involved here - several drums of different chemicals were found right next to surface to surface rockets modified to carry a liquid payload. The chemicals - if mixed - would be WMD but since they were not mixed (yet) they didn't qualify!

Republicans have NO backbone! Every time Repubs extend the hand of bi-partisanship to the Dems, it gets lopped off! When are the Repubs going to learn!

There are people who actually seem to think that the only source of evil in the world is America when governed by Republicans. And these Muslim terrorists are basically peaceful people who are desperately responding to America's evil aggression and if only the American Democrats were in power the Muslim terrorists could sigh with relief and go back to their villages and cities and live peaceful lives. Until they are called upon again to limit American Republican aggression.

I don't get this. The radical arm of Islam (about 100 million) wants to murder all Americans, children included, and the Democrat response is to stand there and throw rocks at our own president. And more than half of us voted for them to take over? This American experiment with freedom and justice is going to end very badly. I just hope I'm not around to see the final curtain fall.
20 posted on 02/11/2007 10:31:28 AM PST by OldTypeAmerican (Better to die on your feet like a man than to live on your knees as a slave.)
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