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Giuliani Presidential Race Picks Up Steam
Buffalo News ^ | 2/11/07

Posted on 02/11/2007 8:30:13 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: Dog Gone

Hard to prove your side when the evidence is destroyed and it is against policy for me to post a cached copy.


61 posted on 02/11/2007 10:47:28 AM PST by tertiary01 (Absence of evidence does not necessarily mean evidence of absence.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Rudy supporters are a whole lot more aware than you care to think.

Your opinion is duly noted.

62 posted on 02/11/2007 10:48:37 AM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: BunnySlippers

They constantly use the term RINO, well, think about it. They are extremely tough and noble critters and demand respect. I would not want to have one charge me. They are not easily stopped once they make up their minds they want to take you out!

So, let them use the term. It fits quite well but not in the way they think.


63 posted on 02/11/2007 10:49:01 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: Hydroshock

Rudy's an East Coast lib whose words and deeds are out there for all to see. He can't pretend now that he didn't say the things he has, didn't vote the way he did and drive for the legislation that he has.

Rudy's a statist. Doens't matter worth a damn whether he's got an 'R' or a 'D' after his name.

I give him an 'F'


64 posted on 02/11/2007 10:50:28 AM PST by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: Noumenon

Agreed.


65 posted on 02/11/2007 10:51:47 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Carolinamom
Because this is favorable to Guiliani, you can, no doubt, look for this thread to go to 900+ posts by tonight. BBL

And the first banned comment being among the top ten (number 5, actually).

66 posted on 02/11/2007 10:57:48 AM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: Hydroshock
Hydro,
Please take a moment and read the following regarding judicial appointments in N.Y.C. This is from a Mia-T post.( I asked permission to repost this section)

"Wow, you sure are willing to support this guy blindly. We're talking about the kind of justices he would appoint. I very logically brought up the point that he is likely to appoint judges like the ones he already HAS appointed. You're taking his word as a politician OVER his deeds.--TeenagedConservative

If you had done your research, (thank you PhiKapMom, nopardons) you would have discovered that Giuliani's hands were tied.

Since 1978, merit selection has been used to select judges of New York City’s criminal and family courts and to fill mid-term vacancies on the city’s civil court.

Established by executive order, the mayor’s advisory committee on the judiciary evaluates applicants and nominates highly qualified candidates. The mayor may not appoint a judge who has not been nominated by the committee. All based on merit selection and all come from an advisory committee which means in liberal NY the chances of finding a conservative judge based on merit would be nil to non-existent.

Conversely, consider Giuliani's statement made at a recent visit with the South Carolina GOP Executive Committee when an audience member pressed him for his position on judges:

'On the Federal judiciary I would want judges who are strict constructionists because I am. I'm a lawyer. I've argued cases in the Supreme Court. I've argued cases in the Court of Appeals in different parts of the country. I have a very, very strong view that for this country to work, for our freedoms to be protected, judges have to interpret not invent the Constitution. Otherwise you end up, when judges invent the constitution, with your liberties being hurt. Because legislatures get to make those decisions and the legislature in South Carolina might make that decision one way and the legislature in California a different one. And that's part of our freedom and when that's taken away from you that's terrible.'

67 posted on 02/11/2007 10:59:21 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Sure. And he'll make the trains run on time, too. Sound familiar?

"I heard no mention of the loss of personal freedom... Apparently this was not much of a sacrifice. They couldn't have cared less."

William Shirer, "Hitler and the Third Reich: First Impressions", from The Nightmare Years: 1930-1940 (Little, Brown, and Co., 1984)  

68 posted on 02/11/2007 11:00:43 AM PST by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: Dog Gone

I have always thought that FR polls were fair, but this current "push poll" tells me all I need to know. Also I'm glad this isn't 1907 when many in the US thought Italians were of a separate race.


69 posted on 02/11/2007 11:03:09 AM PST by tertiary01 (Absence of evidence does not necessarily mean evidence of absence.)
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To: areafiftyone
And how can he win the nomination of a party filled with conservative Christians?

I think it was Mark Levin, in his book on the Supreme Court, who said that the make-up of the courts is the most significant "social issue" of this early century. On that, Rudy is solid.

70 posted on 02/11/2007 11:04:45 AM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: My2Cents

Solidly to the left.


71 posted on 02/11/2007 11:11:33 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: tertiary01

The current poll on FR is a little bit goofy (I voted "Too dumb to vote"), but it's hardly a Giuliani "push poll". It's not describing Giuliani vs Hillary, at least how he's been portrayed at this forum by many people.


72 posted on 02/11/2007 11:12:49 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: areafiftyone

The only hope we have is to find a strong candidate that has the gonads to stand up to Liberals and the MSM (one in the same). Political correctness, sucking up to Liberals, and not staying true to our heritage is going to push us down the toilet bowl.


73 posted on 02/11/2007 11:19:24 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Noumenon

Comparing him to Hitler? (LOL!)

Do you have any other delusional tendencies we need to know about?


74 posted on 02/11/2007 11:24:08 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Well that's why I prefer Rudy. He's been standing up to the MSM since he was mayor. He's not afraid of them. But that being said - whomever wins the nomination gets my vote.


75 posted on 02/11/2007 11:43:00 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: don-o

I am very well aware of his postions. How much do you know about gun control and police unions.


76 posted on 02/11/2007 11:44:34 AM PST by genxer
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To: don-o
Christian Conservatives ARE NOT RELIABLE REPUBLICAN VOTERS.

Many voted dem in 2006...as long as the dem was a "social conservative".

The smart pols in the GOP have figured this out...as have the samrt dems. The "social conservative" vote will be split amongst them, in varying quantities, for the forseeable future.

77 posted on 02/11/2007 11:45:52 AM PST by Mariner
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What did poster # 5 say that got his/her post deleted?


78 posted on 02/11/2007 11:47:04 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: genxer

Of course we on FR are not representative. We are more informed than the average American.


79 posted on 02/11/2007 11:50:40 AM PST by don-o (Duncan Hunter for President. Inform yourself. You won't have to hold your nose!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
No, I didn't compare Rudy to Hitler. However, I did offer a comparison to the times, the zeitgeist, if you will. In the last century, we've had ample examples of a people willing to give up their liberty for a man on a white horse. Didn't work out too well, did it?
80 posted on 02/11/2007 2:38:50 PM PST by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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