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Giuliani Presidential Race Picks Up Steam
Buffalo News ^ | 2/11/07

Posted on 02/11/2007 8:30:13 AM PST by areafiftyone

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Associated Press
Some polls have Rudolph W. Giuliani ahead in key primary states like New Hampshire, Iowa, California and New Jersey.

WASHINGTON A year ago, top Republicans had two questions about former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and his presidential prospects.

Where is he?

And how can he win the nomination of a party filled with conservative Christians?

But after a slow start, Giuliani has begun campaigning, and it's now clear where he is: at the top of the polls.

And because of shifts in the political winds, more political pros are saying he could end up being the GOP candidate.

"If Giuliani wins in New Hampshire, I think he wins the nomination," said Andy Smith, a pollster at the University of New Hampshire who recently conducted a poll showing "America's mayor" in a statistical tie for the lead in the state that hosts the first primary.

Giuliani is ahead in other key states like Iowa, California and New Jersey, and political pundits say it's not just because of the name recognition he won for his leadership of New York City after 9/11.

It's because several things have happened, by design and chance, that benefit Giuliani.

After sitting out the earliest part of the presidential politicking, Giuliani campaigned hard for Republican candidates last fall and it did him some good.

"The mayor was down here many times during the campaign," said Katon Dawson, chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party. "And I would say the mayor is very popular in South Carolina right now."

Similarly, Giuliani seems to have helped himself with his first campaign appearance in New Hampshire two weeks ago. Smith's poll, taken just after Giuliani's visit, showed the mayor with 27 percent, a point behind Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who won New Hampshire's GOP primary in 2000.

"Giuliani is in an excellent position given that he's never run for office outside his own state before," Smith said.

He's in a strong position elsewhere, in part because two well-known would-be candidates with strong ties to the Christian right - former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and former Sen. George Allen, R-Va. imploded politically last year.

That leaves the Christian right without an obvious choice among the candidates pundits see as the major players: Giuliani, McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Giuliani's support of abortion rights and gay rights would seem to make him anathema to Christian conservatives but so might McCain's legendary comment that evangelical leaders are "agents of intolerance," and Romney's past support of gay rights.

Facing that political landscape, some Republicans are thinking differently in the key first-caucus state of Iowa, said Steffen Schmidt, a political scientist at Iowa State University. He said he recently met with a key player in the state GOP, which has long been dominated by the Christian right, only to hear positive comments about Giuliani.

"He's a war hero in that he was the mayor of the entire country after 9/11, and that gives him a superstar status," Schmidt said. "He's also attractive because people think he was a pretty good mayor and would be a pretty good manager. And that means they're more willing to overlook all the stains - the divorces, the fact that he's pro-gay rights."

While a lesser-known candidate like Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback or former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee could become the social conservatives' candidate of choice, their lack of name recognition may doom their candidacies in what's likely to be a very short race to the nomination.

The Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary are expected to be held in January 2008, and will be quickly followed by the South Carolina primary on Feb. 2.

Then comes what's shaping up as a very early Super Tuesday on Feb. 5, when California, Florida, New Jersey and Illinois are likely to hold their primaries. That bodes well for Giuliani because those states have disproportionate numbers of moderate Republicans, Schmidt said.

Fred Siegel, author of "Prince of the City," a flattering biography of the former mayor, agreed.

"Half the delegates will be selected before Feb. 8, and that gives someone with enormous name recognition a huge edge," Siegel said.

Then again, many inside-the-beltway pundits say Giuliani's liberal stances on social issues will doom him with the GOP base. And both Dawson and Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance, indicated Giuliani still has something to prove to social conservatives.

"There is still a lot of concern" about Giuliani's past stances, Scheffler said.

Nevertheless, Giuliani's supporters stress that the mayor would be the party's strongest candidate in the November election.

Portraying himself as a successful mayor who made government work and who could be trusted to do the same in Washington and overseas Giuliani appears to be trying to move beyond the legacy of the unpopular Republican incumbent, President Bush.

And while some polls show Democratic candidates such as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton beating most Republicans at this point, Giuliani's supporters think he is so popular that he could even compete in strongly Democratic states like New York, New Jersey and California.

"He's a strong leader, a no-nonsense leader," said Buffalo businessman Anthony Gioia, one of Giuliani's top local supporters. "But what also makes him compelling is his electability. If he's the nominee, we get to play in the Democrats' sandbox."


News Washington Bureau assistant Andrew Vanacore contributed to this report.

e-mail: jzremski@buffnews.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; giuliani2008; gop; republicans
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1 posted on 02/11/2007 8:30:15 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

(((((PING))))


2 posted on 02/11/2007 8:30:59 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

Because this is favorable to Guiliani, you can, no doubt, look for this thread to go to 900+ posts by tonight. BBL


3 posted on 02/11/2007 8:36:14 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: Carolinamom

One can only hope! :)


4 posted on 02/11/2007 8:37:09 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Carolinamom

LOL! You are probably right!


6 posted on 02/11/2007 8:40:58 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

there is too hot air around, i think i may collapse if it carries on for 2 whole years.


7 posted on 02/11/2007 8:41:07 AM PST by rogernz
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To: areafiftyone
"If Giuliani wins in New Hampshire, I think he wins the nomination," said Andy Smith, a pollster at the University of New Hampshire.

Tell that to Pat Buchanan!

8 posted on 02/11/2007 8:42:04 AM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: Mr.Smorch

YIKES! That's one scary picture! But a Rudy/Newt Ticket would be a formidable one.


9 posted on 02/11/2007 8:42:44 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Afronaut
Tell that to Pat Buchanan!

Pat Buchanan???? Yes we always listen to what HE has to say about elections! (/sarcasm>

10 posted on 02/11/2007 8:43:47 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Afronaut

And John McCain.


11 posted on 02/11/2007 8:44:28 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: areafiftyone
Probably referring to Pat winning the N.H. primary against G.H.W.Bush...Who of course was defeated that year by Clinton due to Perot.
12 posted on 02/11/2007 8:45:34 AM PST by BonnieJ
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To: areafiftyone

Uhmmm...they were referring to the fact that Buchanan won the NH primary, but didn't win the nomination.


13 posted on 02/11/2007 8:45:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: areafiftyone
Rudy is a stone cold emocrat. He would not and did not even put Republican on his party affilliation form when he filed for the presidential nomination race. Send Rudy packing.
14 posted on 02/11/2007 8:46:15 AM PST by Candor7 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: BonnieJ

Wrong year.


15 posted on 02/11/2007 8:46:23 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: Candor7
Rudy is a stone cold emocrat. He would not and did not even put Republican on his party affilliation form when he filed for the presidential nomination race. Send Rudy packing.

OH PULEEZE a tiny minor gaffe that was corrected and explained! TRY AGAIN!

16 posted on 02/11/2007 8:49:52 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: EternalVigilance; BonnieJ

Thanks for explaining what they meant! I stand corrected!


17 posted on 02/11/2007 8:51:36 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Candor7

A "stone cold emocrat"? That's absurd...


18 posted on 02/11/2007 8:53:45 AM PST by sofaman ("The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not.")
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To: Afronaut

Buchanan was basically barnstorming in New Hampshire only. Elsewhere, he had little support.


19 posted on 02/11/2007 8:58:45 AM PST by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: areafiftyone

It's RINO time!


20 posted on 02/11/2007 9:24:58 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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