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OK, So What Is It About Rudy?
Real clear Politics ^ | February 10, 2007 | Mike Magruder

Posted on 02/11/2007 8:19:52 AM PST by bilhosty

Now that Rudy Giuliani has overtaken -- for the moment -- Sen. John McCain as the Republican front-runner, the big question is "why?". The answer is not that either party is lacking contenders with presidential material, but that Giuliani just might be the right man at the right time. There's a controversial theory historians have named the "great men" theory of history. As opposed to Marxist historians, who believe that class struggle is the great mover of history, or their lefty cousins who believe that "groups" -- women, gays, minorities -- and their struggles dominate human affairs, some historians hold to the idea that certain individuals have been the real engines of great change. From Winthrop to Washington, FDR to Reagan, the great man emerges when circumstances suddenly demand a leader. In 2008, that man will be Rudy Giuliani.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; anotherrudytroll; charlatan; dontdrinkthekoolaid; electionpresident; elections; fake; fraud; giuliani; gop; mountebank; nothanksrudy; phony; propaganda; republicans; rudyspam; rudyspew; snakeoilsalesman
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I have always noticed that prior to the Kennedy-Nixon election in 1960 that the presidency geneally came to the man rather than the other way around. Men fought hard to become President all f there lives. Sometimes they got it,but most of the times they did not. Since 1960 it has gone to iron willed men of blind ambition who would probably run down there own mothers to win. But, I think there is still a hint of the Presidency coming to the man when needed. I wonder to if there is not something about Rudy that would cuase this result
1 posted on 02/11/2007 8:19:55 AM PST by bilhosty
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To: bilhosty

I will tell you exactly why Rudy looks good: he's not McCain.

Many are really sick of McCain and his assault on the first amendment along with how he sucks up to the MSM.


2 posted on 02/11/2007 8:27:47 AM PST by kjo
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To: kjo

There's more. Rudy has some serious leadership skills, and they've always been in plain sight for all to see. That's his trump card, IMHO.


3 posted on 02/11/2007 8:31:00 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: bilhosty

The best man equipped to lead, who has shown himself as an experienced and principled leader on national issues is Hunter. Giuliani was an excellent mayor and has some good points but would not make a good president on many issues. He also has no economic experience and I'm not sure how well he'd listen to advisors (part of how Nixon ruined the economy).

He's a far better man than McCain, but not a President. Our best hope is Hunter, who btw has character in abundance.


4 posted on 02/11/2007 8:32:11 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik (Just Say No To McGiulimney)
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To: bilhosty

whats it about a million guiliani posts at the moment??


5 posted on 02/11/2007 8:33:33 AM PST by rogernz
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To: kjo

Let's see...maybe it's because Rudy has never supported a "Terrorist Bill of Rights"?


6 posted on 02/11/2007 8:33:53 AM PST by gruntSGT (Card Carrying Foaming at the Mouth Lindsay Graham Hater.)
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To: kjo

I think the red/blue divide is an urban vs the rest of us. If Giullani would put together an urban reform that would crack the hold of corrupt machines on schools and pocketbooks, that would benefit us all. Giullani/ Steele .


7 posted on 02/11/2007 8:34:36 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: kjo
McCain and his assault on the first amendment

I don't see how anyone claiming to be a conservative or a Republican could give him a pass on the egregiously unconstitutional CFR.

8 posted on 02/11/2007 8:34:53 AM PST by angkor
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"whats it about a million guiliani posts at the moment??"

Beat me to it!! Geez, enuf already!
9 posted on 02/11/2007 8:35:33 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: bilhosty

I'm all Rudy-ed out, I'll let another Rudy supporter engage in the same circular arguments that has been repeated non-stop.


10 posted on 02/11/2007 8:35:35 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: bilhosty

The question ever since the WTC attacks has not been:

"Can politicians invoke the image of 9/11" to great political effect"?

Obviously, they can.

The question instead has been:

"Are our elected leaders astute and realistic enough so that they can translate that effect into workable foreign and domestic policy" - without bring misled by the belief that they are "Great Men" into grandiose schemes prone to expensive and divisive failure?


11 posted on 02/11/2007 8:38:06 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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...the right man at the right time...

That says it all.

12 posted on 02/11/2007 8:39:00 AM PST by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: kjo
Many are really sick of McCain and his assault on the first amendment along with how he sucks up to the MSM.

Yeah, because Rudy "very, very strong supporter of Campaign Finance Reform" Giuliani, Rudy "a very strong supporter of McCain-Feingold for a long, long time" Giuliani is such a good friend of the first amendment...

Or the second, or pretty much every other entry in the Bill of Rights. We *really* have to dispel these myths about Rudy before the primary, or he'll win, and then when he starts trying to court Dem votes (his natural constituency), our base will find out during the general.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Rudy scares me more than Hillary. I'm dead serious. At least if Hillary was president, we could rely on our senators and reps to vote against her. With all of the RINOs and cowardly Republicans in office, do you really expect them to vote against "their president"'s bill in large enough numbers to counter all of the Dems that will vote for it?
Hello, abortion on demand, "guest workers", affirmative action, gay marriage, and pretty much everything else you can think of.
Goodbye, constitution.
13 posted on 02/11/2007 8:42:23 AM PST by OldGuard1
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The best man equipped to lead, who has shown himself as an experienced and principled leader on national issues is Hunter.

This is getting old fast. My congressman, Rep. Sam Johnson, has better conservative credentials and experience than Hunter.

Yet, to repeat for the umpteenth time, Congressmen do not get elected directly to the presidency.

14 posted on 02/11/2007 8:43:17 AM PST by peyton randolph (What we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal - Albert Pike)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

I'm supporting Hunter for Prez but IF he doesn't get the top spot Rudy would do well to make him or Jeff Sessions (Ala) his VP.


15 posted on 02/11/2007 8:44:30 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: bilhosty

Personally, I am getting suspicious of candidates that get early backing. Smells of lots of corporation money and a bought President. It is starting to remind me of "W". Look what we have now, an open boarder, no sovereignty President. Or at lest one that agrees with the "powers that be" about "gobaliszation". Hmmm.


16 posted on 02/11/2007 8:44:48 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Victor

Hasn't he been divorced three times, dresses up in women's clothing, has lived with homosexuals, is anti-2nd amendment, is pro-abortion, and the like? What's there to like?


17 posted on 02/11/2007 8:47:07 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Yomin Postelnik
He also has no economic experience

I guess running (and turning around) New York City, which has an economy bigger than most states, doesn't count.

18 posted on 02/11/2007 8:47:24 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: rogernz

whats it about a million guiliani posts at the moment??



You'd think that the other candidates would have material in the press, meetings/events that are news worthy, etc and that they cadre of supporters would be posting them for us to read about... On the other hand maybe they don't press material, meetings/events that are news worthy....


19 posted on 02/11/2007 8:49:12 AM PST by deport
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To: Theo

Hasn't he been divorced three times, dresses up in women's clothing, has lived with homosexuals, is anti-2nd amendment, is pro-abortion, and the like? What's there to like?



Isn't that strange and still blowing away any contenders in the polls.... What gives you reckon?


20 posted on 02/11/2007 8:52:54 AM PST by deport
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