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This editorial appeared in the very conservative Human Events.

People should take a look at Ruday's record and read the article above.

1 posted on 02/10/2007 9:26:08 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: BunnySlippers; PhiKapMom

Rudy PING


2 posted on 02/10/2007 9:27:15 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FairOpinion

While certainly not a social conservative, Rudy has a highly enviable record in controlling government spending and making government work effectively.


4 posted on 02/10/2007 9:31:40 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Recognition of one's ignorance is the beginning of wisdom.)
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To: FairOpinion

I jus done came fer the purty pic'tures of Ms. Geeuleeani in dat dere drag photo of hers.


5 posted on 02/10/2007 9:33:40 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: FairOpinion

Tancredo and Paul both have extensive and real records proving their fiscal conservatism. I don't buy any that snake oil salesman Giuliani says.


7 posted on 02/10/2007 9:34:04 PM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: FairOpinion

I want to like Rudy, but his Second Amendment position is a deal-breaker.


8 posted on 02/10/2007 9:35:46 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Hunter/Rumsfeld 2008!])
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To: FairOpinion

Where's the barf alert?


10 posted on 02/10/2007 9:39:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: FairOpinion
Unfortunately, McCain opposed President Bush’s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. McCain voted against repealing the Death Tax in 2002.

This is what doomed McQueeg with me. I'd never heard of Dubya in 2000, and, like many, automatically supported the Arizona Senator. John signed his political death warrant with the Estate Tax vote, and threw a few shovels of dirt with the "Gang of 14" BS.

12 posted on 02/10/2007 9:39:35 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: FairOpinion; Extremely Extreme Extremist; BunnySlippers; nopardons; PhiKapMom; Lancey Howard; ...
"America's Mayor" cut or killed 23 levies, saving taxpayers $9.8 billion. Giuliani pared Gotham's top income-tax rate by 20.6%. Washington, D.C.'s CFO reported that between 1993 and 2001, local taxes on a family of four New Yorkers earning $50,000 fell 23.7%.

Hillary has warned, "We are going to take things from you for the common good."

Using Human Events' term, it's the supply-sider versus the Marxist-Leninist "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Or, as Hillary would delicately describe her potential rule,


15 posted on 02/10/2007 9:40:37 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: FairOpinion

McCain voted against repealing the Death Tax in 2002.
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Karl Marx did not believe in transferring wealth within a family to a next generation either.


16 posted on 02/10/2007 9:40:38 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: FairOpinion
Unfortunately, McCain opposed President Bush’s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts.

The Titantic was a great ship. Oh, and by the way, it sunk...

17 posted on 02/10/2007 9:40:46 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion Supports
Opposed
NY ban
Supports Supports Opposes
Roe v. Wade Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at
state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes
Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports
"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it.
Rudy Giuliani

18 posted on 02/10/2007 9:41:19 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: FairOpinion

We (Mr. and Mrs. RQSR) had a negative premonition of Schwarzenegger, but we had Gray Davis in California. Something had to be done (vote for change) and it was done holding our noses and praying for the best. It didn't happen. Siiiiiiiiiiigh

Now along comes Giuliani as favored Republican nominee and that same negative premonition we had is back as more and more jump on the Rudy bandwagon.

Where Schwarzenegger married into a family of Leftist baggage, Rudy has accomplished it all on his own.

As we stated in another post, Rudy is a "Niche" kinda guy, as Mayor of NYC he was OK, quite successful by all indications, but we cannot see him as President of the United States of America.


33 posted on 02/10/2007 9:50:45 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: FairOpinion

I'm voting for Rudy; and if I am I think most are.


41 posted on 02/10/2007 9:54:57 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: FairOpinion
Got yourself a brand spanking new RINO to promote?

Rudy McRomney scored a combined 25% in the last FR poll.

See tag line.

43 posted on 02/10/2007 9:56:31 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: FairOpinion

Guliani will come a cropper same as your Arnold Schwarzenegger. Only this time it will be the entire United States that gets screwed


57 posted on 02/10/2007 10:03:15 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: FairOpinion

I take Human Events! Guess I had better go read the last issue! :)


103 posted on 02/10/2007 10:22:45 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: FairOpinion
Apparently, the very conservative Human Events had to ignore a great deal of evidence to come up with a flawed article such as this.

Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989

--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, Rudy said: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett, Page 459

---Rudy Giuliani Endorses Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo October 1994: "From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ˜Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo." Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City book by Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

--Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo: "Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state." "But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed." Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement, October 25, 1994

--"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party." Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party, CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

--On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights: "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, "Mayor Giuliani said yesterday. "I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said. The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples. "I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country." New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

--On Gay-Rights/Gay Rights Bill: Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately. "I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action." ".......It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment." New York Post, June 5, 1993

--Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office. Ray Kerrison New York Post, June 30, 1993

--Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal." quoting Ray Kerrison New York Post, July 7, 1989

--On Gay Domestic Partnership: "I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership," said Rudy Giuliani on Informed Sources New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

--On Abortion: Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing. New York Times, June 18, 1993.

--Rudy Guiliani on abortion: "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

--"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade." Rudy Giuliani, New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

--As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal. New York Times, August 4, 1989

--On Partial Birth Abortion: Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure. New York Times, January 7, 1998

--On School Choice: "He doesn't support tuition tax credits and vouchers." Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

--On Taxes: [Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989
149 posted on 02/10/2007 10:40:37 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: All; FairOpinion

There's more to being a conservative, than being a fiscal conservative. Being a conservative is a way of life.


244 posted on 02/11/2007 10:41:33 AM PST by Sun (Let your New Year's resolution be to vote for conservatives in the primaries! Happy 2007!)
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To: All; FairOpinion

Many conservatives say they pick "none of the above" when faced with a choice of Arizona Sen. John McCain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani as the 2008 Republican presidential nominee.
"When I look at these top three guys, I think of Shania Twain singing 'That don't impress me much,' " said former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, referring to the popular country singer.
Such dissatisfaction with the leading Republican presidential candidates is widespread among the party's conservative stalwarts, including many of the 150 alumni of the Reagan administration who attended an annual reunion at the Heritage Foundation on Tuesday night.
"We are without a viable candidate for 2008 at this point," said Mary Ann Meloy, who was an official in the Reagan White House.
Eagle Forum President Phyllis Schlafly counts herself in the "none of the above" category because, she said, the top three candidates are wrong, ambiguous or suspect on "limiting court jurisdiction, the loss of U.S. jobs from globalism and the immigration-amnesty-guest-worker, pro-life and same-sex marriage issues."
Similar discontent has been expressed by conservatives as prominent as radio host Rush Limbaugh -- who said last month that "there's nobody out there that revs me up" in the 2008 Republican presidential field -- and from many other longtime activists who are influential, if not quite household names.
"No one of the three top-tier individuals is a conservative," said Tom Carney, a Florida lawyer and Republican fundraiser. "But even more importantly, none of them have original thoughts. They are all ultimate pragmatists. They want to be president without the necessary vision in this time of international crisis."
Faith Whittlesey, who headed the Reagan White House liaison office and was ambassador to Switzerland, said she is trying to find hope in the situation. "I hear the three choices are all we got, so I would like to see their positions evolve on the core issues that face the nation -- and I am, let's say, hoping for the best," she said.
Christian Josi, senior vice president of Dezenhall Resources, a Washington-based public relations firm, said, "I am a conservative. I have had all I can stomach of Republicans."
"To put it very simply, it is very clear that McCain and Giuliani both have demonstrated that they have significant problems with key elements of the Bill of Rights," Mr. Josi said. "And that is frightening. Don't get me started on Romney. Suffice to say, I find his ideological commitment to the core conservative principles to be highly suspect."

excerpt http://www.washtimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20070208-115658-7902r

It's time to support a CONSERVATIVE presidential hopeful, like Duncan Hunter, and it's early enough to make it happen.


245 posted on 02/11/2007 10:42:53 AM PST by Sun (Let your New Year's resolution be to vote for conservatives in the primaries! Happy 2007!)
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