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Conservatives target Rudy
Newsday ^ | Feb 8 2007 | CRAIG GORDON

Posted on 02/08/2007 9:16:33 PM PST by Reagan Man

WASHINGTON -- Eager to head off Rudolph Giuliani's recent gains in the polls, conservative activists this week strengthened their attacks, with some promising to step up their efforts on the Internet, talk radio and "below-the-radar" to discredit him going forward.

They are taking direct aim at one of Giuliani's strongest selling points, at least to some backers -- that he is the Republicans' best hope of stopping Hillary Rodham Clinton.

These critics argue that his nomination would prompt a conservative third-party candidate to join the race and split the GOP vote, clearing the way for Clinton's election.

"There's no way conservatives could stand for Giuliani becoming the Republican nominee," said Richard Viguerie, one of the founders of the modern conservative movement. "I guarantee whoever the Democrats nominate would be the next president."

~ship~

He backed off his earlier opposition to a ban on the medical procedure referred to as partial-birth abortion, and expressed support for gun owners' Second Amendment rights, even though as New York mayor he sued gun manufacturers and argued that more guns lead to more crime.

~snip~

So social conservatives -- for whom Giuliani's support for abortion rights, gun control and gay unions are anathema -- are speaking out. Some say they would use the tools at their disposal to tell voters about Giuliani's social stances.

Viguerie, a direct-mail pioneer, argued it no longer takes millions of mailings to make the case, thanks to talk radio, the Internet and other "below-the-radar" media.

Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Family Research Council, told a conservative radio host that Giuliani's positions are "far outside the mainstream of conservative thought ... Once people focus on this election and the candidates, Giuliani's lead will diminish."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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To: areafiftyone; PhiKapMom

"There you go again."


21 posted on 02/08/2007 9:57:38 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: msnimje
I can't vote for him because his wife spells her name with an "i"...Judi.

Thanks for that tidbit. People that spell Judi with an "i" are like people whose head is too small for their body - they cannot be trusted.
22 posted on 02/08/2007 9:57:41 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: Jaysun
Your tag line gave me a chuckle.
23 posted on 02/08/2007 10:00:04 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Clemenza
"Has said NOTHING about foreign policy, other than superficial sound bites and Likud Party talking points..."

...while making NY a sanctuary city, which enables the flow of illegals aliens, which provides cover for terrorists crossing the border, which endangers everyone but in particular the group he was pandering to while plagiarizing the talking points!

24 posted on 02/08/2007 10:00:23 PM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: Reagan Man

and we inch closer and closer to prez hillary


25 posted on 02/08/2007 10:08:29 PM PST by skaterboy
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To: All

I'm rather weary of these so called "conservatives"....who couldn't be bothered enough to vote in the last election.

Hope they are proud of themselves now.


26 posted on 02/08/2007 10:10:00 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Reagan Man
These critics argue that his nomination would prompt a conservative third-party candidate to join the race

I saw on another thread that Michael Savage may be interested.

27 posted on 02/08/2007 10:13:07 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: skaterboy
and we inch closer and closer to prez hillary

With all the "great Americans" on this thread threatening to sit out the election, you're right.

28 posted on 02/08/2007 10:20:23 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: My2Cents

"I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley"

I don't think Rudi even leans slightly right unless hes from Jersey then thats just a geographical leaning.


29 posted on 02/08/2007 10:32:45 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: processing please hold

My pleasure. Have a great weekend.


30 posted on 02/08/2007 10:34:02 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: Reagan Man

Here comes the latest attack from the scumbags at Newsday, who, like me, see Rudy as the next President of the United States unless they can help stoke some fires and stop him. You have to be an idiot not to see through this tactic.


31 posted on 02/08/2007 10:39:41 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Reagan Man
Between December, 2006 and last month, Giuliani's favorable ratings dropped from 67% to 61% while his unfavorable ratings went from 23% to 29%, and those unsure ticked up a point to 11%.

His boat is already taking water.
32 posted on 02/08/2007 10:41:38 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: narses

Rudy opposes Roe v. Wade and said so the other night on Hannity.
He clearly said that abortion laws should be left to the legislatures and the states.
So, your graph is bogus. Who gave it to you? McCain? Romney? Duncan Heinz?


33 posted on 02/08/2007 10:43:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Dreagon

"Conservatives will prefer their liberal president to be a Democrat, and will sit home if offered nothing but a choice between two liberals."

Amen to that. Fed up with the lesser of 2 evils dance. If this is the best the Republican Party comes up with then there will be a dummie in the White House.


34 posted on 02/08/2007 10:44:31 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Lancey Howard

See http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1778466/posts?page=126 then comment please.


35 posted on 02/08/2007 10:45:10 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: NapkinUser; All

"I'm not shocked at all so many republicans are ignorant of Giuliani's leftist political views."

Thanks for the ping....My question would by WHY are they suddenly being so tolerant of his leftist political views? I think there is a LOT behing that WHY!

Personally, I believe it has everything to do with the same reason they are tolerant (and rabidly supportive) of Bush's leftist push for amnesty, all under the guise of declaring that Guiliani is the only candidate who can beat Hillary.

Every time I see one of those polls like Hanity put out last night I also have to question WHY they are determined to keep Hunter out of sight. My guess, for the same reason I stated above. Hunter does not support Bush's amnesty. And the GOP is going to do everything in it's power to keep the good man down.


36 posted on 02/08/2007 10:45:18 PM PST by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Beagle8U
Because if he gets the nomination I'll cast my one write-in vote and be done for the day.

That's pretty much what I will do if Rudy is nominated. I promised myself long ago that I would never, ever, under any circumstances vote for a candidate with a character so despicable and lacking in basic humanity that he or she would approve and support the abomination known as partial birth abortion.

Some on this forum try to tell us that a president has no role to play in either overturning Roe v Wade or confirming it's validity. That is simply not true. While it may be true that a pro-life president has only the power to appoint pro-life judicial nominees, he or she also has the "bully pulpit" to campaign against such outrages as legalized abortion and homosexual "marriage". If GHW Bush had not been there to appoint Justice Thomas, and if his son had not been there to appoint Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito, today there would not be even a glimmer of hope that the USSC will someday reverse Roe v Wade and allow the states to enact laws concerning abortion either pro or con.

The court must now decide regarding the partial birth abortion ban. The facts of that grisly procedure are, one second a baby in the birthing process is legally a fetus and therefore fair game for an abortionist to kill by stabbing it in the back of it's head and vacuuming out it's brains. A few more seconds and an inch or two of movement and the fetus would legally have been a live human child with all the rights that any other American has, and killing him or her would have been murder. Can someone please explain how that outrageous travesty makes anything even remotely akin to common sense? Abortion at any stage of human life is a crime against the laws of God and nature, and has been recognized as such for thousands of years by Christians and Jews alike.

Hitler only managed to slaughter 6 million Jews and other "undesirables", but America's abortionists and the judges and politicians who enable them have so far slaughtered almost 8 times that many unborn and partially born baby humans since 1973. If politicians such as Rudy and Justices such as the 5 pro-abortion USSC Justices now on the court have their way, the death count will continue to rise until I believe the God of heaven and earth will have had enough and brings the USA down to the place where nazi Germany was in the summer of 1945. IOW, defeated and in ruins with it's people in despair and disbelief that it could all have happened so fast.

37 posted on 02/08/2007 10:48:02 PM PST by epow ("Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, I will repay")
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To: Reagan Man

I watched Hannity and Colmes tonight and Sean seems to have fallen in love with Rudy.


38 posted on 02/08/2007 10:50:16 PM PST by no dems (Duncan Hunter for Prez / Tony Snow for VEEP in '08)
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To: narses

2001? I presume that was a campaign appearance (for mayor of New York City)?

Anyway, he has never denied being "pro choice" and has never flip-flopped on the issue. I think that he was using the term "right to choose" in the vernacular rather than in a strict Constitutional sense. Again, he said the other night that he likes and would appoint judges like Alito and Roberts, and he thinks that laws regarding abortion should be left to the states and their legislatures. And THAT is anti-Roe v. Wade.


39 posted on 02/08/2007 10:54:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: epow

I agree. But Rudy has far more problems with the voters than just one issue. His views on abortion, queers, and guns is a hill no Republican can climb in the Red states that elect Republicans.


40 posted on 02/08/2007 10:54:19 PM PST by Beagle8U (Fred Thompson......Your party needs you !)
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