Posted on 02/07/2007 4:27:56 PM PST by blam
dueling banjos
LOLOFL
I see no reason to let these guys off the hook of "personal responsibility" by blaming it on something a part-time, barely literate Imam told them.
In fact, let's go a little bit futher ~ these two fellows enjoyed killing their sister, and would do it again, and wish they had other sisters to kill. Odds are good they used her for sex when she was a little girl.
This is a serious social problem for Pakistan to resolve ~ hanging large numbers of these pukes would seem to be a wise first step.
This cancer has metastasized well beyond the village limits. And it's not mere tribal culture. It's called sharia, and it's at the core of their abominable and detestable religion and fascist ideology.
Here's a documentary broadcast by the UK's Channel 4, which shows the disease being propagated in local mosques, funded with Saudi oil money:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
One day the doctor may be forced to prescribe radiation therapy (i.e., paving the middle east with trinitite).
That practice no longer exists in India today.
Search for 'sati' on Wikipedia for details..Ironically it also an entry also mentions:
Hindu scholars such as Prabhat Varun have tried to show [28] that Sati was not part of Hindu doctrine at all, but a practice of voluntary immolation by Hindu women as a means to avoid the humiliation and stigma associated with rape. The argument is that the practice came into effect during the Islamic invasion of India, to protect their honor from Muslims who were known to commit mass rape on the women of cities that they could capture successfully. It is argued that the prevalence of sati has been exaggerated by Europeans and Muslims as a canard against Hinduism.
Well, Pakistan isn't exactly in the Middle East, but this therapy regimen sounds like a cure for the infection that is islime.
Who says she was being "used"? Nothing in the article implies she was engaging in anything against her will. With the boyfriend, anyway. Maybe Big Brothers were upset he got a piece of their action...? As to your ridiculous claim of safeguarding the family honor, you don't owe your family a damn thing in regards to another adult member and her sex life. It's none of yours or their business with whom a 40 yr old woman wants to sleep, sister or otherwise. It's your perogative to shun her for whatever behavior you don't like, but it's positively medievel for you to assume you have some say in the choices of a grown woman. And the idea that this poor soul got what she deserved because she had "fair warning" is frankly twisted.
I'm out of line suggesting that she was a skank, but you're within your rights to declare the brothers incestuous rapists???
As to your ridiculous claim of safeguarding the family honor, you don't owe your family a damn thing in regards to another adult member and her sex life.
I don't think there's anything "ridiculous" about it. In a small tribal village, a family name may be all that stands between you and penury, or total ostracism. If you allow a twisted sister to besmirch it, it isn't just SHE that pays the price. It's you, all your children, your brother's children, and on and on. The stain can stay with you for generations.
It's none of yours or their business with whom a 40 yr old woman wants to sleep, sister or otherwise.
That may be true in this country, but it's not over there.
It's your perogative to shun her for whatever behavior you don't like, but it's positively medievel for you to assume you have some say in the choices of a grown woman.
That grown woman has the power to destroy the reputation of an entire family. Not only do her brothers have a say, SHE has a responsiblity to act with that in mind.
The medieval sense of honor was much more highly developed than it is today, and our world is the worse for it. So I'm not sure that's much of an insult.
And the idea that this poor soul got what she deserved because she had "fair warning" is frankly twisted.
"Poor soul?" Puhhhleeeeeze. Your heart is bleeding all over the parlor rug.
Muslims have no soul. They brainwash their children to kill and commit suicide.
Read the article in its entirety. You'll find that it refers to the previous story and says that the reporting has changed, depending on who you talk to.
Please cite your sources of Christian men murdering their sisters for 'honor'. I'm sure I'm not the only one on this thread who wants to know.
Nam Vet
Sure.
Murdered in name of family honour
Faten Habash's father wept as he assured his daughter there would be no more beatings, no more threats to her life and that she was free to marry the man she loved, even if he was a Muslim. All he asked was that Faten return home.Hassan Habash even gave his word to an emissary from a Bedouin tribe traditionally brought in to mediate in matters of family honour, a commitment regarded as sacrosanct in Palestinian society. But the next weekend, as Faten watched a Boy Scouts parade from the balcony of her Ramallah home, the 22-year-old Christian Palestinian was dragged into the living room and bludgeoned to death with an iron bar. Her father was arrested for the murder....
Faten Habash's murder was unusual because she came from the Christian minority in the Palestinian territories. Her desire to marry a young Muslim, Samer Hamis, so infuriated her family that the couple decided to elope to Jordan.
Nam Vet
And inbreeding.
So they are not from the same planet as us, they don't have the same feelings as normal people, they don't even have DNA. They should be kept out of civilized countries.
Yes, you bet!!
What I said wasn't a blanket statement, what I said was that there were cases. I provided one, and there are numerous articles on the phenomenon of honor killings in the middle east say that there are a few cases among Christians as well. This isn't a controversial notion, except to you.
To repeat what I said before, this isn't about Islam as much as it's about tribal crap that predates Islam, but which Islam does little to ameliorate, unlike Christianity.
A case could probably be made that Islam is a religion made for a tribal people, while Christianity, born and disseminated through the Roman Empire, is a religion for a civilized people.
With all due respect, I have serious doubts about you having good intentions on a Conservative board.
Why? Because I believe that a lot of the issues the west has with Islam has less to do with the religion itself than with the way violent, uncivilized people with a political agenda use it as an excuse for their actions? Our president has said much the same thing.
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