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Debate: Robert Spencer vs. Dinesh D'Souza ('Lores Live', KRLA 870am this Sun Jan 28th at 7pm PST)
Lores Live website ^ | Friday January 26th, 2007 | Lores Rizkalla

Posted on 01/27/2007 2:06:29 PM PST by ajolympian2004

Lores Rizkalla hosts a debate between Dinesh D'Souza, author of The Enemy at Home and Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch. Listen this Sunday evening, January 28th at 7pm PST (that's 10pm EST).

Listen to the Lores Rizkalla show LIVE on-line here - http://www2.krla870.com/listen/

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Mike Rosen interviewed Dinesh D'Souza about his book here on 850am KOA last Monday.

Rosen Replay 10/31/06 10am -11am Guest: Dinesh D'souza, author of, ""The Enemy At Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11.""

Click here for the interview
(about 45 minutes, MP3)

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Mike Rosen interviewed Robert Spencer about his book here on 850am KOA last year.

Rosen Replay 10/31/06 10am -11am Guest, author Robert Spencer, "The Truth About Muhammed"

Click here for the interview
(about 45 minutes, MP3)

1 posted on 01/27/2007 2:06:34 PM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
Are not the two authors on the same side? Isn't a debate between two opposing viewpoints?
2 posted on 01/27/2007 2:16:22 PM PST by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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To: Excellence

No it's a very heated debate actually.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014860.php

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014870.php

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014930.php

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014869.php

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014872.php

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/014935.php


3 posted on 01/27/2007 2:21:55 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Excellence

Really, not going to much "debate".


4 posted on 01/27/2007 2:22:26 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Excellence
In this case I think it will be two opposing view points. A number of conservatives have come out against some of what D'Souza said in his book.

One is Dean Barnett who is a contributor to Hugh Hewitt's Townhall site. Dean's review here -

Sunday, January 21, 2007
Book Review: "The Enemy at Home"
Posted by Dean Barnett | 5:27 PM
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/4358f1f6-2a20-42a9-ba23-bda2d69af0ef

Excerpt from Dean's review -
"First, a disclaimer – I love making fun of lefties. As a matter of fact, the interests I list on my MySpace.com homepage are extreme sports, getting ink done and slagging on liberals. So you might think that Dinesh D’Souza’s new book, “The Enemy at Home” would be right up my alley. Quite the contrary, I found “The Enemy at Home” to be intellectually obtuse, poorly informed and, most importantly, an irresponsible exercise in putatively conservative bomb-throwing."

5 posted on 01/27/2007 2:22:48 PM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004

Oaky, I see what you're saying. We could all be Amish, and the Muslims would hate us. They hate us because we are not Muslim, not because of our "Blue State Values." This should be interesting.


6 posted on 01/27/2007 2:32:42 PM PST by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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To: ajolympian2004

Week before last some professor from Boston viciously attacked D'Souza's latest book in the New York Times Book Review. One of the most personal, mean-spirited take downs I have seen.

But, what is one to expect from the TIMES? They long ago lost all sense of decency.


7 posted on 01/27/2007 2:44:31 PM PST by kjo
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To: ajolympian2004; stainlessbanner; 4CJ
Dinesh D’Souza’s new book, “The Enemy at Home” would be right up my alley. Quite the contrary, I found “The Enemy at Home” to be intellectually obtuse, poorly informed and, most importantly, an irresponsible exercise in putatively conservative bomb-throwing."

Imagine that. The Straussian D'Souza accused of being intellectually obtuse and poorly informed. Heck, we could have told them that several years ago...

8 posted on 01/27/2007 2:47:07 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: kjo

I know that Lores will have finished reading the book by show time this Sunday. Her parents are from Egypt and persecuted for being Christians there so I'll be interested to hear her take on Dinesh's new book.


9 posted on 01/27/2007 2:59:26 PM PST by ajolympian2004
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"Besides, you have to look at what the Islamic empires actually did. There were Christians and Jews who lived under the various Muslim dynasties, from the Abbasid to the Ottoman. In fact, Jews were much safer in the Ottoman empire than in just about any of the Christian kingdoms, such as that of Ferdinand and Isabella in Spain."

This quote alone from D'Souza's book shows how wrong he is. He seems to think dhimmitude is good.

10 posted on 01/27/2007 3:44:27 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Excellence

When Faith Goes Too Far
Author: Daveed Gartenstein-Ross
Dated: 01/28/2007
http://www.islamdaily.net/EN/Contents.aspx?AID=5281

Seduced by radical Islam, I became everything I once despised.

Seduced by Radical Islam

Before I was an FBI informant, an apostate and a blasphemer, I was a devout believer in radical Islam. That meant I had to remember a lot of rules. I could never pet a dog or shake hands with a woman. I could eat only with my right hand, and before prayer, I had to roll my pant legs above my ankles. I accepted all this.


And more. I believed that non-Islamic governments were illegitimate, that jihadists were brave holy warriors carrying out the will of Allah, that Jews and other non-Muslims were inferiors who had to be conquered and ruled. Funny thing, I was born Jewish. At 23, with my nose in a wool prayer rug, I found myself praying for the humiliation of my parents because true Islam demanded it, or so I believed.


This is the story of how I was seduced by radical Islam -- and how, over time, I embraced a worldview that I had once abhorred.
(snip)


11 posted on 01/27/2007 5:04:43 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: dynachrome

In fact, Jews were much safer in the Ottoman empire than in just about any of the Christian kingdoms, such as that of Ferdinand and Isabella in Spain."

You really should try reading some history before you make silly statements.


12 posted on 01/27/2007 5:06:14 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin

"much safer in the Ottoman"
Relatively safer. Not free. Still oppressed. Still dhimmi.


13 posted on 01/27/2007 5:27:57 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: dynachrome

They had legal status, unlike Jews in europe.


14 posted on 01/27/2007 5:32:14 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin

"legal status"

Yeah. Third class status. Non-mooseslimes are second class. Jews are third class in all islam-o-nazi countries.


15 posted on 01/27/2007 5:35:01 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Valin

The black african slaves in the US South had a legal status too... Slave.


16 posted on 01/27/2007 5:45:14 PM PST by pacelvi
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To: ajolympian2004

bump


17 posted on 01/27/2007 5:46:33 PM PST by VOA
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To: pacelvi

" legal status too... Slave. "
Better answer than mine!


18 posted on 01/27/2007 5:54:56 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: dynachrome
Jews were much safer in the Ottoman empire than in just about any of the Christian kingdoms, such as that of Ferdinand and Isabella in Spain." This quote alone from D'Souza's book shows how wrong he is. He seems to think dhimmitude is good.

Bernard Lewis says the same thing. I don't think either one is enamored of "dhimmitude." I think they simply prefer accuracy over rhetoric. If you think you know more about it than Lewis perhaps you should write your own book.

19 posted on 01/27/2007 6:01:28 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

I think my point would be that the muzzies are still in the 7th century and treat every non-muzzie as 2nd class in rights, except for Jews, who have no real rights.


20 posted on 01/27/2007 6:19:20 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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