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House GOP shut out despite promises
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/27/07 | Jim Abrams - ap

Posted on 01/27/2007 9:56:01 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - It was 2004 and Democrats were into their 10th year as the minority party in the House when they proposed a bill of rights to ensure their participation in the democratic process.

The GOP ignored them.

Now Republicans, newly demoted to the minority, say they are the ones suffering abuse despite repeated Democratic promises that theirs would be a more open, democratic and inclusive rule.

"It seems," said Republican leader John Boehner (news, bio, voting record), R-Ohio, "over the last three weeks that the more we reach out and offer our hand of bipartisanship, (the more) it is slapped away."

Democrats deny they are seeking retribution for 12 years of perceived slights. They also say they are not reneging on the assertion, in their bill of rights, that bills should go through a process of open hearings and full debate where the minority party can offer amendments.

Democrats say that with completion of their first "100 hours" agenda, business will return to "regular order." In that opening rush to the new Congress, Democrats rushed through priorities such as raising the minimum wage, imposing new ethics and lobbying rules and cutting prescription drug and student loan costs.

Yet "regular order" has not returned, at least so far.

During the past week, Democrats pushed through, with limited GOP input, two major bills: One would take away the pensions of lawmakers who commit crimes and the second would give partial voting rights to delegates from U.S. territories and the District of Columbia.

Earlier hopes of a new era of civility quickly dissipated with the pensions bill. Republicans claimed that, without their knowledge, Democrats made last-minute changes that were written on a napkin.

"Members of the current minority sat here for two weeks grinding their teeth while they watched things come to the floor without having gone to committee, without prior debate and discussion," said the former chairman of the House Administration Committee, Rep. Vernon Ehlers (news, bio, voting record), R-Mich. "And this is the crowning insult."

"It is tough to be in the minority, isn't it? I feel your pain," Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (news, bio, voting record), D-Md.,

He said that with a smile to Republicans while pointing out that the late changes came as a request from Boehner, the House GOP leader.

Asked at a news conference about the napkin, Hoyer said, "It was on some piece of paper, the consistency of which I do not know."

Tempers grew even shorter on the delegate bill.

Democrats were sensitive to the fact that not a single Republican amendment had been allowed over the first three weeks of the session. So they ruled a GOP amendment OK to debate — even after the sponsoring lawmaker decided to withdraw it.

Boehner then introduced a resolution criticizing Democrats for trying to force the amendment. That effort failed by a party-line vote.

The House long has earned a reputation for being far more partisan than the Senate. In the Senate, the minority's power to stall legislation requires the majority to reach out if it wants to pass bills.

In the House, Democrats lorded it over Republicans for 40 years before Newt Gingrich led the GOP to victory in the 1994 elections.

Republicans pledged not to treat Democrats as they had been treated. But former Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, adopted a strategy of pushing ahead on legislation by demanding loyalty from Republicans and shutting out Democrats.

Democrats complained that they were frequently denied the right to offer amendments, were excluded from House-Senate negotiations over final legislation and were forced to vote on bills for which they were not given time to read.

Democrats howled when GOP leaders, during tight roll call votes, kept open the balloting for hours while they browbeat members to change their votes.

"Both sides carry a pretty heavy load of past sins," said Brooks Jackson of the Annenberg Public Policy Center. The jury is out on whether Democrats will do any better this time, he said, but "memories are long and slights are not forgotten. It's tough to get over that."

It appears that Republicans will have to wait a bit longer before they see how sincere Democrats are about giving them a voice.

The House this week plans to take up legislation to fund most federal programs through Sept. 30, the end of the current budget year. This task was foisted on the Democrats because the last Congress, with GOP in control, failed to pass all but a few spending bills.

With the House trying to work out a deal with the Senate on that spending plan and Congress about to begin work on the 2008 budget, there is no time to open up the bill to proposed changes, Hoyer said.

"I want to tell you candidly," he told the No. 2 House Republican, Missouri Rep. Roy Blunt (news, bio, voting record), "that I believe there will not be a full opportunity" to offer amendments.

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1 posted on 01/27/2007 9:56:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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"It seems," said Republican leader John Boehner (news, bio, voting record), R-Ohio, "over the last three weeks that the more we reach out and offer our hand of bipartisanship, (the more) it is slapped away."

Well duh? But not to worry...I'm sure that reaching out in the spirit of bipartisanship will work just fine when ya'll start talking immigration reform.


2 posted on 01/27/2007 9:59:04 AM PST by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: NormsRevenge

Uhhh,, Jim,,

The DEms theme is a New Direction for America, yaknow.

Can't we all just get along?


3 posted on 01/27/2007 9:59:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

That's what happens when you lose


4 posted on 01/27/2007 10:00:09 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: NormsRevenge

Anybody stupid enough to think they will get a fair shake from democrats is a retard.


5 posted on 01/27/2007 10:03:50 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess that it is time for the gutless to kiss ass of the nasties a bit more. Perhaps they'll get the job of cleaning latrines on a permanent basis.


6 posted on 01/27/2007 10:04:02 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: Kimberly GG

"over the last three weeks that the more we reach out and offer our hand of bipartisanship, (the more) it is slapped away."
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Bipartisan and DemoRat represent an oxymoron...but in the case of the mutual survival goals of the political class, they will show "bipartisanship" when it comes to giving America away to forign illegals and other globalist objectives.


7 posted on 01/27/2007 10:04:20 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: NormsRevenge
Good. Then all bad legislation passed can be placed on the backs for the Sociocrats.
8 posted on 01/27/2007 10:04:44 AM PST by Paige
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To: NormsRevenge
OH, and one more little matter..... all Stay-At-Home-Conservatives should be very pleased with themselves now for you really showed those Sociocrats.
9 posted on 01/27/2007 10:05:59 AM PST by Paige
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To: NormsRevenge

There are several well-known precedents.

The French Revolution was immortalized by the slogan, "Liberty, egality, fraternity," but as soon as they secured power, it was, "Off with their heads."

The Russian Revolution was fueled by the notion that, "From each according to their abilities to each according to their needs," but as soon as they secured power, it was, "Off with their heads."

In modern times, they figure the mainstream media will come up with some appropriate political correctness so they can just do what they do best, "Off with their heads."


10 posted on 01/27/2007 10:08:16 AM PST by MikeHu
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To: NormsRevenge; Kimberly GG
Welcome to the reality of being the Minority Party in the US House.

Really hope the 1 issue whiners, "win by losing clowns" and the rest of screaming idiot Know Nothings in the mis named "Conservative" Alternative Media who brought us to this point enjoy the next 40 years as the Minority Party.

Wake up children, 70% of something is WAY better then 100% of nothing. All this continually squealing and whineing at your OWN side buys you is political irrelevance. A fact the Republican Leadership finally seems to be waking up to. This rabid 100%erism of the Talk Radio Generation almost cost us 2004, it did cost us 2006 and it will cost us 2008.

Nothing in life, certainly NOTHING in politics is ever perfect. Time for the Always Angry Caucus to finally grow up.
11 posted on 01/27/2007 10:10:09 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: NormsRevenge

the repubs allowed this to happen, they can't come out crying about it


12 posted on 01/27/2007 10:14:18 AM PST by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process™ •)
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they have gotten too comfortable playing victim now


13 posted on 01/27/2007 10:15:24 AM PST by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process™ •)
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To: NormsRevenge
"It seems," said Republican leader John Boehner (news, bio, voting record), R-Ohio, "over the last three weeks that the more we reach out and offer our hand of bipartisanship, (the more) it is slapped away."

Proof of why we are in trouble: we need leadership, not "new" leadership!

14 posted on 01/27/2007 10:28:16 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: sure_fine

I tell you one Dennis Hastert is "mad now and won't take it any more!" Big deal: it will help us now.


15 posted on 01/27/2007 10:29:24 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Now Republicans, newly demoted to the minority, say they are the ones suffering abuse despite repeated Democratic promises...

Good heavens, this is pathetic. The Republicans lost, so suffer!

It so digusts me when Democrats whine about losing elections, and we should be bigger than that.

16 posted on 01/27/2007 10:31:35 AM PST by adam_smith_76
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To: NormsRevenge
You gave your base the finger and now whine over the consequences.

Cry me a river.


17 posted on 01/27/2007 10:42:50 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: NormsRevenge

The dems lied? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

Mark


18 posted on 01/27/2007 10:58:23 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: EagleUSA
Bipartisan and DemoRat represent an oxymoron...but in the case of the mutual survival goals of the political class, they will show "bipartisanship" when it comes to giving America away to forign illegals and other globalist objectives.

According to the dem dictionary, "bipartisanship" has always meant "the dems get what they want." Nothing new about this. Why else do you think that the were crying "bipartisanship" all the while that the congress was spending money like drunken dems, and President Bush was signing the bills into law.

Mark

19 posted on 01/27/2007 11:01:39 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Paige

Have you taken The Pledge yet?


20 posted on 01/27/2007 11:07:33 AM PST by edsheppa
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