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Mars Ski Report: Snow is Hard, Dense and Disappearing [Global Warming on MARS]
Space.com ^ | November 6, 2001 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 01/22/2007 11:51:19 PM PST by Moseley

Global warming on Mars?

In the other study, led by Michael C. Malin, features at the south pole were observed to retreat by up to 10 feet (3 meters) from one Martian year to the next.

The odd shapes -- circular pits, ridges and mounds -- were first photographed in 1999. Since then, the features have eroded away by up to 50 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carbondioxide; globalwarming; icepacks; manmae; mars; martiandesert
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If BOTH Mars and Earth are simultaneously experiencing global warming, then clearly the SUN is the cause.

No man-made factor on earth could account for BOTH global warming on Earth and also on Mars.

The polar ice caps on MARS are shrinking, year over year, at least in the southern hemisphere. (Differences in composition of dry ice (carbon dioxide) vs. water ice make the northern and southern polar ice caps behave a little differently.)

See also the January 2006 issue of Astronomy Magazine, page 32,

MARTIAN FEATURES DISAPPEAR

SHRINKING MESAS. Mesas of dry ice at the martian south pole have been retreated by about 10 feet (3m) per Mars year since Mars Global Surveyor arrived in 1999. These images compare the same region in 1999 and 2005. Mars seems to be in a warm spell. Dry ice turns to gas on the mesas's sides, but no new ice is being deposited. Over time, the polar pits will merge into plains, mesas will shrink into buttes, and buttes will vanish forever.

PAGE 32

and see also the March 2003 Astronomy article by Peter Thomas titled, "Mysteries of the Martian Poles." which repeatedly mentions that the polar ice caps

"are receding at rates up to 15 feet (4 meters) a year."

See also:

http://www.nationalsummary.com/Articles/Science_Tech/science_tech__warmings_mars.htm

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?page=article&Article_ID=2736

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17977

And see also: http://astroprofspage.com/archives/458

Look down to the paragraph next to the moon, which starts "Among the findings attributed to MGS,"

Near the end of that paragraph is the "money sentence" --

QUOTE: "Data show that the south polar ice cap seems to be shrinking each year, leading some planetary scientists to suggest THAT MARS IS UNDERGOING GLOBAL WARMING, MUCH AS MANY BELIEVE THAT EARTH may be experiencing. If so, this is a very interesting finding, because Mars does not have any artificial pollution to contribute to global warming."

UNQUOTE [Emphasis added]

http://astroprofspage.com/archives/458

1 posted on 01/22/2007 11:51:21 PM PST by Moseley
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To: Moseley
If BOTH Mars and Earth are simultaneously experiencing global warming, then clearly the SUN is the cause.

WRONG. What it says is that mars is warming and man made co2 is not the cause. Earth could still be warming via man made co2, via the sun, or some combination of the two and/or other factors.

PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE TITLE TO PLEASE YOU OWN BIAS

ORIGINAL TITLE IS

Mars Ski Report: Snow is Hard, Dense and Disappearing

2 posted on 01/22/2007 11:57:27 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Moseley

Real evidence, such as this, will be ignored by global warming alarmists. They have an agenda and they use global warming as their red herring in order to de-industrialize the U.S. and make it into a third world country.


3 posted on 01/22/2007 11:57:36 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Moseley

Man didn't cause global warming on Mars because man doesn't LIVE on Mars. duh!


4 posted on 01/22/2007 11:57:59 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: Moseley

The Martian atmosphere is entirely CO2 and is 0.1% of Earth's atmosphere. You can't draw any meaningful conclusion just from global warming on Mars.


5 posted on 01/22/2007 11:59:02 PM PST by billybudd
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To: Moseley
Don't be stupid...

According to pop culture men are Mars, women from Venus. So we fried another planet....who cares!


Been doing hang time with the caveman from Geico??!


Seen the bumpersticker on my space ship?


Earth First! We'll Mine the Other Planets Later!

6 posted on 01/22/2007 11:59:11 PM PST by Issaquahking (Pardon Compean and Ramos Now!)
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To: Moseley

Congress-"Woman" Sheila Jackson Lee may take issue with the cause of Global Warming on Mars...

After all, she is the genius who thought man had visited and planted a flag on Mars, instead of the Moon....

That one "visit" by man to mars - COULD have been enough to disrupt their climate....

Semper Fi


7 posted on 01/23/2007 12:01:00 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

They don't call 'em "moonbats" for nuthin.


8 posted on 01/23/2007 12:09:28 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Moseley

bookmark


9 posted on 01/23/2007 12:10:42 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Issaquahking
Earth First! We'll Mine the Other Planets Later!

Too funny. I was following a logging truck on the way back from Mt Rainier and it had a bumper sticker that had Earth First in large letters and a globe and then small text I could not read on the right side. I could not figure out why a logging truck would have such a sticker until we got into Greenwater and I could read the rest of the bumper-sticker.
10 posted on 01/23/2007 12:16:19 AM PST by microgood
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To: staytrue

Uhhh.... No, not really. The increased output of the sun is causing the polar ice on Mars to shrink. The SAME increased solar output MUST be affecting Earth. It is impossible for increased solar output to be reaching Mars, but not Earth. (In fact, if you know anything about electromagnetic radiation, the power of the sun's rays fall off with the square of the distance, and the same is true for any increase as well. Any effect on Mars therefore must equal a far greater effect on Earth, because Earth is significantly closer to the sun then Mars.)

While one can hypothesize any cause for alleged global warming in the absence of such evidence, once it is known that the sun is -- in fact -- causing the polar ice cap to shrink on Mars, the same must be true of the Earth.

Proponoents of global warming hysteria suggest an increase of only 0.6 degrees Celsius from global warming.

We know that the increased solar energy is sufficient -- at a much greater difference -- to melt the polar ice on Mars.

Therefore, the increased solar energy MUST have an equally powerful effect on the Earth, and an even greater effect (because of the lesser distance).

This leaves no room for any other cause. We cannot be observing the sun "plus" something else. There is not enough room in the observed 0.6 degrees Celsius to allow for BOTH the sun plus something else as well. We already see that the global warming hysteria models predict temperature increases much TOO high, and do not track with reality. If we now have to squeeze that down even further, the models are completely discredited.

As to the title, the trouble is that I was summarizing 5 different articles all on the same subject.


11 posted on 01/23/2007 12:16:22 AM PST by Moseley (http://www.ColdPeace.com)
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To: billybudd

The whole Solar System is warming up, from Pluto to Sol: see http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/161106suvjupiter.htm


12 posted on 01/23/2007 12:25:24 AM PST by earglasses (...whereas I was blind, now I hear...)
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To: Moseley

Oh, man is adding to it and there's no doubt about that. All the poisonous hot air from gasbags like Al Gore & Co are definitely polluting the political atmosphere.


13 posted on 01/23/2007 12:25:42 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
All the poisonous hot air from gasbags like Al Gore & Co are definitely polluting the political atmosphere.

That must be cause that mysterious odor that showed up in New York City, political poisonous global warming gas.
14 posted on 01/23/2007 12:29:14 AM PST by microgood
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To: Moseley
BUSHS FAULT!!!
15 posted on 01/23/2007 12:39:49 AM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: Moseley
Oh....and it's also RACISM!

Sorry, I forgot about that....
16 posted on 01/23/2007 12:48:20 AM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: taxesareforever

It is time for God to realize his experiment with humans has run it's course, and satisfied any useful purpose.


It's time for Him to clean up this mess and try some other hobby.


17 posted on 01/23/2007 12:52:20 AM PST by Gator113
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To: Moseley

BACK DOOR SOCIALISM ALERT!


18 posted on 01/23/2007 1:36:01 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

Socialism is the Politics of Envy.

America's wealth and technological advancement is the envy of the world.

What better way for China, Russia, Islamofreaks, Eurotrash, the U.N., et. al. to restrain our growth than to promote a theory we are ruining the planet and must self-restrain.

Democrats are on board because they are anti-American.

Don't be fooled. Global Warming is the faux argument and justification against individual versus collective rights.


19 posted on 01/23/2007 1:42:31 AM PST by Stallone (Strangulation: RINOs Are Taking Triangulation Politics To A New Level)
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To: Jim Robinson
"They don't call 'em "moonbats" for nuthin."

Well, actually - what I call this particular "congress critter" and those like her, would get me banned...

But then I'm just an old fart who doesn't really care anymore if my opinion upsets folks.

Semper Fi

20 posted on 01/23/2007 2:27:13 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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