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Rudy Giuliani Confronts His Abortion Stance With Naming of Nussle
LifeNews.com ^ | January 17, 2007 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 01/17/2007 7:13:08 PM PST by narses

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani apparently knows his pro-abortion position isn't going to play well in the heartland of America. Just over a week after an internal strategy memo leaked out acknowledging that fact, the mayor appointed a pro-life former congressman to help head his Iowa campaign.

Giuliani tapped pro-life former Rep. Jim Nussle to be a leader on his presidential exploratory committee.

Nussle had a 100 percent pro-life voting record during his last two years in Congress, according to the National Right to Life Committee. He lost a bid to become Iowa governor last November.

“I’m honored to have Jim Nussle join our team as I explore a campaign for president of the United States,” Giuliani said in a statement.

The appointment, and others, display the greater likelihood that Giuliani will move from considering a presidential campaign to announcing one.

Earlier this month, Giuliani hired Maria Comella, Nussle’s former campaign communications director, as regional communications director. Ironically, Nussle formed the Iowa consulting firm Navigating Strategies with his former chief of staff, Steve Greiner, just a week ago.

The appointment could be Giuliani's first attempt to soften his pro-abortion position following the release of the memo, even though he played it down in an interview on ABC’s Good Morning America last week.

“I sure have strengths and weaknesses,” but added, “I think that sort of puts me in the same category as just about everybody else that’s running.”

His views on key pro-life issues will be a considerable weakness in a state that has consistently turned back pro-abortion Republican presidential candidates like Pete Wilson and Arlen Specter.

When asked to respond to social issues on CNN's Inside Politics in a 1999 interview, Giuliani replied, "I'm pro-choice."

In the same CNN interview he also indicated he does not support even a modest ban on the gruesome partial-birth abortion procedure saying, "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."

Giuliani also indicated he would have upheld President Clinton's veto of the partial-birth abortion ban.

"Yes. I said I then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it," he told the New York Times in November 1999.

Giuliani will likely have a difficult time capturing the GOP nod for president as a result. His current high standings in 2008 presidential polls are likely the result of his elevated name identification following his efforts to help New York City following the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Republicans haven't had a pro-abortion nominee since Gerald Ford in 1976.

An August RT Strategies/Cook Political Report poll asked Republican voters whether they would support Giuliani knowing his position in favor of abortion.

Some 56 percent of registered Republicans said the party should still pick the former mayor. But that will likely change when the presidential campaign begins in earnest this time next year and pro-life groups begin educating voters about Giuliani's pro-abortion position.

Giuliani also backs making taxpayers fund embryonic stem cell research, which has yet to cure any patients and involves the destruction of human life.

Other potential Republican candidates include Arizona Sen. John McCain, recent pro-life convert and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, pro-life former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, pro-life Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, pro-life Sens. Sam Brownback of Kansas and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, and pro-life Reps. Duncan Hunter of California and Tom Tancredo of Colorado.


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1 posted on 01/17/2007 7:13:12 PM PST by narses
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2 posted on 01/17/2007 7:13:39 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: narses
...pro-abortion Republican presidential candidates like Pete Wilson and Arlen Specter.

These two were candidates?

3 posted on 01/17/2007 7:15:24 PM PST by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: narses

Good move, Rudy.

Make peace with Right to Lifers and 2nd amendment activists, and the nomination is yours.


4 posted on 01/17/2007 7:15:25 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: narses

If Rudy renounced his liberalism and views on abortion, etc., he might have a chance. As it is now, he has no chance to get the nomination.


5 posted on 01/17/2007 7:16:45 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: cicero's_son

How is he 'making peace' with us?


6 posted on 01/17/2007 7:17:45 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: paudio
These two were candidates?

For a short time. I do briefly remember the Wilson candidacy.

7 posted on 01/17/2007 7:18:42 PM PST by NeoCaveman (needless to say, it didn't last long)
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To: narses

BFD.

He can appoint anything that he likes ... it doesn't matter. I don't trust him. These election-eve conversions are just propaganda for the easily deceived. The real Giuliani is the proabortion gungrabbing socialist we've all come to know and loathe.


8 posted on 01/17/2007 7:19:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cicero's_son
Good move, Rudy.

Make peace with Right to Lifers and 2nd amendment activists, and the nomination is yours.

He's not making peace. Evidently you didn't read the whole article. He still upholds abortions and mentions, in particular, partial birth abortion. Appointing this guy to his campaign is a smoke screen for those pubbies too braind dead to realize what he is doing.

9 posted on 01/17/2007 7:19:48 PM PST by calex59
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To: ArrogantBustard

Brighton Fire Department?

:)

I agree.


10 posted on 01/17/2007 7:20:58 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: narses

Master Sawyer puts some whitewash on his fence.


11 posted on 01/17/2007 7:21:03 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: ArrogantBustard
we've all come to know and loathe

' ...who's WE, Kimosabe?

12 posted on 01/17/2007 7:21:33 PM PST by paulat
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

“I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded.
Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999


13 posted on 01/17/2007 7:21:45 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: calex59

oops. no, i didn't read the article.

i'm a little surprised, frankly. i really thought rudy would start backing off some of his more radically pro-abortion positions by now.


14 posted on 01/17/2007 7:21:46 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: paulat

Git yer pom-poms out of my face, and have a look around.


15 posted on 01/17/2007 7:22:59 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cicero's_son

I hope he does. And his radical views on queers. And gun control. And hate laws.


16 posted on 01/17/2007 7:23:05 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: narses

It's a shame about Rudy's liberal views because he'd be great on the war on terror. I can't vote for him.


17 posted on 01/17/2007 7:24:08 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: ArrogantBustard

well enjoy 8 years of Hillary then


18 posted on 01/17/2007 7:24:43 PM PST by skaterboy
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To: All
Here we go again. You guys whining about Rudy, so don't vote for him in the primary then. I'm not voting for Rudy in the primaries, but if he wins the nomination, then he'll definetly get my support.

BTW, this IS a smart move by Rudy. It shows he understands that the country is relatively conservative, and he's merely accomodating the views of the public. You guys thinking he's going to ban guns or permit abortion on demand is crazy.

19 posted on 01/17/2007 7:25:41 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: narses

Excellent choices by Rudy. Let's wait and hear what his actual positions on the record are on all issues before making judgements.


20 posted on 01/17/2007 7:26:24 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: skaterboy

Bogeyman Politics, again? Is that all you got?

According to some recent polls, we're more likely to have 8 years of Obama or Edwards ... which would also suck.


21 posted on 01/17/2007 7:26:38 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I dunno, he is soft on border control and he panders. He has no military experience and is a left wing, east coast liberal.


22 posted on 01/17/2007 7:27:09 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: narses

I'd like him if he'd come around on this, but I doubt that he would do so sincerely. Once upon a time, I believe he was moderately pro-life. But the common rumor in NY was that his ex-wife, Donna Hanover, convinced him that he could never win with his conservative positions and moved him leftwards. Then she tried to sabotage his campaign and complained when he turned up with somebody else on his arm. Donna was quite nasty and I think it's a pity that he took any of the "advice" she gave.

BTW, does anybody here know anything about Huckabee? Or have any thoughts about him?


23 posted on 01/17/2007 7:28:26 PM PST by livius
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To: Cincinna

“I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded.
Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999

He favors gun control, hate crime laws and has a personal life like Bill Clinton. Sorry. No need to hear any more.


24 posted on 01/17/2007 7:28:34 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: livius

He was raised Catholic but has betrayed his Catholic values time and again. If he made a sincere conversion and a sincere and public repentance, maybe. But show me first.


25 posted on 01/17/2007 7:29:47 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: ArrogantBustard
Git yer pom-poms out of my face, and have a look around.

My "pom-poms" will NEVER be near YOUR face...LOLOL!!!!

26 posted on 01/17/2007 7:29:48 PM PST by paulat
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
ban guns

If congress passed another gun-ban, do you think your boy would veto it? Honestly? Heck, even GWB said he'd sign a gun-ban, if congress passed it.

permit abortion on demand ????

That's already the "law of the land". Do you think RG would do anything to chip away at that? Really?

27 posted on 01/17/2007 7:30:06 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: paulat

Grow up ...


28 posted on 01/17/2007 7:31:37 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: narses
If he made a sincere conversion and a sincere and public repentance, maybe.

The time for that is before you start running for office. It's too late ... now he's just a flip-flopper.

29 posted on 01/17/2007 7:33:19 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Grow up ...

Nope! Never!! ;)

30 posted on 01/17/2007 7:36:01 PM PST by paulat
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
"If Rudy renounced his liberalism and views on abortion, etc., he might have a chance."

I don't care if he's anti gun and pro abortion in his personal views, as long as he would leave those issues alone as president. Presidents don't have much impact on those issues anyway, aside from judicial appointments and how the AG uses the law.

I'm more interested in what kind of judges Rudy would appoint than what his views are on issues. If he nominates constitutional originalists to the courts and keeps taxes low he's good with me.

31 posted on 01/17/2007 7:37:08 PM PST by KoRn
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To: narses

That's my feeling, too. Show me.


32 posted on 01/17/2007 7:37:10 PM PST by livius
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To: ArrogantBustard
ban guns

Rudy is not going to ban guns (DID CLINTON BAN GUNS?) and he's not my "boy." I just recognize political mathematics. If he's the nominee then voting for him is a no-brainer in the general. That means all of the other Republicans had their chance and LOST.

permit abortion on demand ????

Even if Brownback were elected President he wouldn't make a dent in abortion. Abortion is not going to go away. Take the money out of it or chip at it incrementally, or nominate judges who'll repeal Roe vs Wade and bring it back to the state level. You're not going to get anywhere forcing Republican candidates into a pro-life straight-jacket.

33 posted on 01/17/2007 7:38:19 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: cicero's_son

Next thing up, he'll become a goose hunter!


34 posted on 01/17/2007 7:38:32 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: KoRn

The kind of judges he would appoint would reflect his views on the issues. Roe v Wade was judicial activism at its full-blown finest, so if Rudy is pro-abortion, it's safe to say he would appoint "activist" non-strict constructionist judges.


35 posted on 01/17/2007 7:39:17 PM PST by livius
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To: narses

More turd polishing. Giuliani can't disguise the fact that he's still a gun-grabbing, pro-gay, abortion supporting liberal.

RINOs sunk the last election. Wanna see 'em do it again?


36 posted on 01/17/2007 7:39:58 PM PST by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: calex59
He still upholds abortions and mentions, in particular, partial birth abortion.

I don't think that's quite correct. Those quotes you're referring to are from 1999, when Clinton was still president. Whether he still feels this way (about PBA!) is not known. If he truly is still for it (in 2007), then he hasn't a chance to win the nomination, imho.

37 posted on 01/17/2007 7:40:13 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Noumenon
Giuliani can't disguise the fact that he's still a gun-grabbing

I'm sorry, when did Rudy seize law-abiding citizen's guns?

pro-gay

He was Mayor of New York City, not Peoria, IL

abortion supporting liberal

Did he sign any new pro-abortion laws as Mayor?

38 posted on 01/17/2007 7:42:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: livius
Mike lost about 100 lbs. by taking up running and by (naturally) changing his diet.

He plays bass guitar in a rock and roll band (the name escapes me.) His band entertained freepers at the Freeper's Inaugural Ball in DC, in 05.

I realize this inf. is quite light weight, in gravitas speak.

Perhaps knowledgeable freepers will chime in.
39 posted on 01/17/2007 7:43:45 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: narses

Yeah, Rudy. I'm really convinced what a fine fan of right to life and the Constitution you are, just sign me up.

I'm so sick of this stuff.


40 posted on 01/17/2007 7:44:29 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("I'll build the g--d---- fence if they want it." -- John McCain, A Modern Profile In Courage)
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memo to Nussle: sit Rudy down to watch the latest womb video everyone is buzzing about.


41 posted on 01/17/2007 7:45:14 PM PST by isom35
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Rudy is not going to ban guns (DID CLINTON BAN GUNS?)

1994. Do you remember that? Hmmm?

and he's not my "boy."

Sorry 'bout that ... I saw later you'd not support him in the primary.

nominate judges who'll repeal Roe vs Wade and bring it back to the state level.

GWB did that. You think RG will? I don't.

42 posted on 01/17/2007 7:45:46 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: narses

Positioning. It's better to have a candidate who doesn't need to "position", who can sit squarely on his past record without extra explanation.


43 posted on 01/17/2007 7:46:10 PM PST by Lexinom (Duncan Hunter 2008 - www.peacethroughstrengthpac.com)
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To: livius

44 posted on 01/17/2007 7:47:03 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Here we go again. You guys whining about Rudy, so don't vote for him in the primary then. I'm not voting for Rudy in the primaries, but if he wins the nomination, then he'll definetly get my support.

BTW, this IS a smart move by Rudy. It shows he understands that the country is relatively conservative, and he's merely accomodating the views of the public. You guys thinking he's going to ban guns or permit abortion on demand is crazy.

Excellent post, IMO.

45 posted on 01/17/2007 7:49:28 PM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: freepersup

Well, that's pretty amazing from the diet point of view! I wouldn't have thought it was the same person (I haven't seen a picture of Huckabee for years).

I hope we get a little more feedback on his opinions. He said some vague stuff on Iraq this week that I didn't like, but of course he's not even officially running, so it could simply be that he wasn't prepared for the questions.


46 posted on 01/17/2007 7:49:36 PM PST by livius
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To: narses
So. What.

All this means is that he's trying to fool Republicans into voting for him despite the fact that he's squarely in the DEMOCRAT camp on the abortion issue. If not worse.

47 posted on 01/17/2007 7:49:56 PM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: livius
Image on right: Minus 100lbs compared to weight of self (past) image on left.


48 posted on 01/17/2007 7:53:43 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: narses

Oh well, now that he has appointed Nussle I am completely fooled and bamboozled and will surely vote for Guiliani now........

who does this guy think he's kidding?


49 posted on 01/17/2007 7:55:22 PM PST by Dreagon
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To: narses
“I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999

Ronald Reagan said he was once a "hemophiliac liberal," but his philosophy grew as he gained experience. I am willing to at least hear what Giuliani says his current positions are.

50 posted on 01/17/2007 7:57:55 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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