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Recent events in Somalia show that Osama Bin Laden is fact dead and has been since last summer
Project21 ^ | 11 Jan 2007 | Trublackman

Posted on 01/11/2007 9:39:45 AM PST by Trueblackman

After many weeks of intense thought on the events taking place in Horn of Africa, I can say I have come to a logical conclusion "That Osama Bin-Laden is in fact dead and has been since last summer." and here are some reasons.

One would think with the fall of Mogadishu that Bin Laden personally would have addressed the fall of the city to Somali transitional government forces, backed by Ethiopian troops with intelligence from the United States and Kenya.

Bin-Laden himself once claimed in a interview that Mogadishu was akin to holy ground for Al-Qaeda and it was the withdrawal of U.S. Forces in 1993 that inspired him to fund and have his followers carry out large scale attacks such as the embassy bombings in Africa, the U.S.S. Cole and 9-11. Now with that said why would Bin Laden not address the fact that the city which gave him the personal inspiration to carry out those attacks against the United States and our allies would be allowed to fall to a mostly Christian Force? The most logical conclusion would be that Bin Laden would have rushed a message out praising his Islamic Warriors in their defense of his Al-Qaeda's holy ground, now with this said if Bin Laden was indeed alive then he would not have left these tasks to his Number 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri.

When American Forces killed former head of Al-Qaeda in Iraq Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Bin Laden personally addressed his death via audio tape and praised his efforts in Iraq, but even those who had the chance to listen to the tape sad that Bin-Laden sounded very weak and frail.

I am also lead to believe that Al-Qaeda's failed attempt to blow up several Trans-Atlantic Flights over the United States was suppose to have been Bin-Laden's departing shot at the world, but in reality the plot was rushed, not well planned, those involved were reportedly seemed at odds with each other and the plot in the end was easily exposed by joint intelligence officials.

Since the failed plot Al-Qaeda has seemed to have fallen out of favor in places such as Iraq and Somalia, Bin Laden himself once promised that 9-11 was only the tip of the iceberg, but Al-Qaeda has been easily foiled at every turn. Which leads me to believe that Bin-Laden has not been in operational control of the group for years, I believe that Bin Laden's number two does in fact control Al-Qaeda, but does not have the support and leadership to run the group and his Bin-Laden's lack of message in the fall of Mogadishu gives credit to the report that he did indeed die last year.

I would put the time frame of his death around late July or early September.


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Just my conclusions on the matter.
1 posted on 01/11/2007 9:39:49 AM PST by Trueblackman
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To: Trueblackman

Interesting speculation, Kevin. It rings true enough...


2 posted on 01/11/2007 9:43:42 AM PST by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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To: Trueblackman

I tend to agree with you. He would have said something by now about Somalia.


3 posted on 01/11/2007 9:44:28 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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To: Trueblackman
Only one video of him has been released since Tora Bora and that could have been faked with makeup and other technologies.

I say he's been dead since Oct '03.
4 posted on 01/11/2007 9:45:21 AM PST by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: Trueblackman

no, he's not dead. no way that information could be contained for this long, hidden. he's in pakistan.


5 posted on 01/11/2007 9:45:37 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Trueblackman
At the time, I thought the London plot was an operation by the terrorist to expose and determine how far British Intell had penetrated the cell.
6 posted on 01/11/2007 9:47:14 AM PST by Perdogg (Happy 2007)
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To: MLedeen

pong


7 posted on 01/11/2007 9:47:24 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Trueblackman

E's just pinin' for the fjords.


8 posted on 01/11/2007 9:48:32 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: GunnyHartman
I say he's been dead since December 2001.
9 posted on 01/11/2007 9:49:28 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: Trueblackman
Kevin I respectfully disagree....he is alive. I've seen nothing in the last 5 years that convinces me he is dead.
10 posted on 01/11/2007 9:49:48 AM PST by Dog (DEMS--- 5 day work week..............errr...nevermind....100 hours...starting...soon .....MAYBE)
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To: beethovenfan

Another reason I believe bin Laden is dead is because he didn't congratulate Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats on their election wins.


11 posted on 01/11/2007 9:50:31 AM PST by Loud Mime ("She got her looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon." - Groucho Marx)
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To: Trueblackman
I also believe he's dead, and the most likely reason his islamist stool pigeons are not publicizing it is to deny Bush and Co. a huge propaganda victory.
12 posted on 01/11/2007 9:51:23 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (You'll shoot your eye out, kid)
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To: bnelson44

Somalia just fell....it will take 3 to 6 weeks for them to get a tape out of the hinderlands of Pakistan. Means nothing that we haven't heard from him or Zawahiri yet.


13 posted on 01/11/2007 9:51:36 AM PST by Dog (DEMS--- 5 day work week..............errr...nevermind....100 hours...starting...soon .....MAYBE)
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To: oceanview
No. For the last time he is hiding out working at 7-11.


14 posted on 01/11/2007 9:52:31 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: oceanview
We must be in the minority on FR...
15 posted on 01/11/2007 9:52:32 AM PST by Dog (DEMS--- 5 day work week..............errr...nevermind....100 hours...starting...soon .....MAYBE)
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To: bnelson44

He would have also said something about the elections 2 months ago. But only his partner in crime did.


16 posted on 01/11/2007 9:53:47 AM PST by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: sauropod

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17 posted on 01/11/2007 9:54:11 AM PST by sauropod (Object of life is not to be in the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane)
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To: Trueblackman

It's a good analysis - especially the point about how psychologically important Mogadishu is to Al-Qaeda ideology.


18 posted on 01/11/2007 9:54:12 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Trueblackman

Personally, I think Bin Laden is with Elvis in a secret room at Graceland. :)

Sorry...I think I've heard that Bin Laden wsa dead at least a million times since 2001....so I'm a bit not trusting.


19 posted on 01/11/2007 9:54:19 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: GunnyHartman

There was the Kerry campaign tape from 2004.


20 posted on 01/11/2007 9:54:22 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Southaven Mississippi Freeper)
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