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Boren opposes, Republicans support possible troop increase in Iraq (OK Delegation to Congress)
The Oklahoman ^ | January 20, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/10/2007 8:16:36 PM PST by PhiKapMom

Boren opposes, Republicans support possible troop increase in Iraq





Reaction among Oklahoma's congressional delegation to President Bush's proposed troop increases in Iraq - which he discussed in a nationally televised address Wednesday night - fell mostly along party lines.

Rep. Dan Boren of Muskogee, the only Democrat among Oklahoma's seven-person delegation, said he opposed Bush's plan to add 21,500 more troops, saying such an increase "does little to encourage the Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future."

But four Republicans in the delegation said that such troop increases will help speed the process of helping Iraqi forces to secure their country.

"We are not making the progress we need to create a democratic Iraq," Rep. Frank Lucas of Cheyenne said. "We need to speed up the training of Iraq military and security forces, so that Iraqis can take responsibility for securing their country and so our troops can come home."

Lucas said the goal is "to create an Iraq that is stable enough for Iraqis to fully secure their own country, and this plan seems to represent the best way forward to make that happen."

Rep. Tom Cole of Moore and Sen. Tom Coburn of Muskogee said it was critical that the U.S. be successful in Iraq.

"Let there be no doubt that America will be a safer and more secure country with a democratic and free Iraq," Cole said. "And, Iraq will be safer and securer if we are successful. The stakes are high, but the consequence of failure is too great not to give the president's plan a chance to succeed."

Coburn said that if the U.S. abandoned its mission in Iraq, "radical Islamic terrorists would control (that) country, aligning themselves with rouge nations like Syria and Iran while using one of the world's largest oil supplies to fund their terrorist activities."

Boren, a conservative Democrat who has largely supported Bush's Iraq policy, said he would break that pattern when it came to adding troops.

"Our young men and women in uniform find themselves in the middle of a civil war in Iraq," Boren said. "These internal political problems cannot be solved by relying on just military might.

"Any open-ended plan to increase American troop levels in Iraq is a mistake that would exacerbate the overextension of our armed forces and further postpone the day when the Iraqis are responsible for their own security."

Boren said the deployment of additional troops "would increase the casualties Oklahomans face with no guarantee of success" and called it "too big of a gamble to take with so many American lives."

However, he said that Bush had the final say on the matter as the commander in chief. Boren said he would not vote to cut off funding for any troops, as some lawmakers from other states have suggested.

Cole, whose district includes Tinker Air Force Base and Fort Sill, called Bush's plan "new, bold and decisive" and said Congress "should give our Commander in Chief every resource he needs to carry this plan out in its entirety."

The newest member of the Oklahoma delegation, Rep. Mary Fallin of Oklahoma City, echoed Cole's call.

"Like many Americans, I am eager to see our troops come home," Fallin said. "For that to happen, however, we must offer the Iraqi government a hand up while it builds the capability to pursue its own solutions to the violence that plagues its citizens."

Coburn said Americans need to understand the motivation of terrorists that are fighting U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

"They believe everyone must believe as they do or be killed," Coburn said. "They preach intolerance and bomb churches and synagogues. We must take seriously their threats to wipe Israel off the map and their desire to see America defeated.

"When we consider Iraq and the war on terror we must ask ourselves, 'Do we want to win?' If the answer is no, we should immediately bring home our troops. Leaving our soldiers in harm's way if we do not intend to win would be a great dishonor. However, if our goal is to secure a future for our children and grandchildren that is free from terrorism, we cannot leave Iraq because we are dissatisfied with the progress being made."

Cole, a member of the House's Armed Services Committee, said he also is pleased that President Bush included a commitment in his speech to permanently increase the size of the U.S. military.

"A larger military is necessary not only for the short term, but also for the longer term security needs our of country and the defense of freedom around the world," Cole said.

As of Wednesday, at least 3,017 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: approve; gopmembers; iraq; surge
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Proud of our OK Republican delegation and disgusted with the one DemocRAT who had to come and say what he did and then says he will not vote to cut off funding. He had better not vote to cut off funding because he would have his Dad to answer to who is a foreign policy advisor to the President.

IMHO Boren is weasel wording to save face to Pelosi -- disgusting.

1 posted on 01/10/2007 8:16:38 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: 2Jedismom

Can you ping the Oklahoma list? Thanks!


2 posted on 01/10/2007 8:17:15 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

I'm adopting your reps.


3 posted on 01/10/2007 8:18:24 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: PhiKapMom
Mr. President, I support your plan and I will be contacting my senators and representatives to let them know I am on your side!  Thank you for supporting our troops.
 
 

U. S. Senate

U. S. House of Representatives

4 posted on 01/10/2007 8:21:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: PhiKapMom

"does little to encourage the Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future."

That is one weak argument, isn't it? The Administration is doing everything it can to encourage the Iraqis. How is chaos going to encourage them?


5 posted on 01/10/2007 8:24:02 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: jwalsh07

My Congressman Tom Cole is good friends with Duncan Hunter. He also was named to head the NRCC and they couldn't have found a better person.

We are fortunate to have Senators Inhofe and Coburn representing us! At least Oklahomans got that right!


6 posted on 01/10/2007 8:24:30 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: popdonnelly

Dan Boren's arguments are usually pretty weak. His Dad, OU President and former Senator David Boren, has forgotten more on foreign policy then his son will ever know. David Boren was all about criticism of the President stopped at the water's edge in time of war and was the Senator responsible for helping get Clarence Thomas confirmed. The son is a chip off the mother not the father.


7 posted on 01/10/2007 8:27:24 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom
Is anyone surprised? He's a Democrat, for heaven's sake! Curses on those who elected him.

When a person claims himself a Democrat, he is a traitor, because he has, at the very least, given tacit approval to the Democrat National Party leaders--and we know what they are.
8 posted on 01/10/2007 8:53:42 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom
You are correct, David Boren was a "Zell Miller" style Democrat, as was my Mother. He was probably more Conservative than most Republicans today. Sorry to hear about his "boy". I didn't know much about him--except that I'd never vote for him.
9 posted on 01/10/2007 9:01:05 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

I am not surprised but you should have seen the crap he came out with that he was going to stand up to Pelosi and may not even vote for her. Snake oil salesman comes to mind!


10 posted on 01/10/2007 9:02:39 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: singfreedom

Fortunately he lives in NE OK on the other side of the State. My Congressman Tom Cole was outspoken in his support of his plan.

David Boren was a "Zell Miller" style Democrat and still is -- his son doesn't have a clue!


11 posted on 01/10/2007 9:03:54 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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Yes, I was sure all that "brave talk" wouldn't last long---from any of those CONSERVATIVE new Dims. They just simply "owe" Pelosi, et al, to much. As far as she's concerned, they were elected due to her efforts---and don't think they won't hear about it---everytime they turn around!!
12 posted on 01/10/2007 9:14:50 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

Exactly! You are so right and it is already coming out that their "brave talk" was just that talk and no substance!


13 posted on 01/10/2007 9:17:21 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom
Weren't you and I commiserating election night and predicting just such a turn of events? I think so? I am, by the way, a fellow Okie.
14 posted on 01/10/2007 9:20:59 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

We sure were -- never believed it for a moment and we were right!


15 posted on 01/10/2007 9:41:30 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom; 2witty; A Jovial Cad; AmerRepb; amigatec; Amityschild; Angry_White_Man_Syndrome; ...
Oklahoma Ping!

If you want on
or off this list
Freepmail me.

16 posted on 01/11/2007 8:01:42 AM PST by 2Jedismom (http://kimsbug.blogspot.com/)
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To: PhiKapMom

Boren continues to disappoint! Another lock-stepping 'Rat.


17 posted on 01/11/2007 8:21:39 AM PST by Don Carlos (My dog ate my sarcasm tag)
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To: 2Jedismom

BTTT


18 posted on 01/11/2007 8:45:48 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Don Carlos

I know -- all his talk before the election and then right after made me think he was his father's son because he was going to stand up to Pelosi but I was wrong, he takes after his mother who gave us that obnoxious horse with the red glowing eyes and the other hiddeous statute now at the Fred Jones Museum of Art Museum. If you haven't seen the new statute, you cannot miss it on Elm.


19 posted on 01/11/2007 9:33:26 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate -- Rudy 2008!)
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To: PhiKapMom

I keep trying to tell my Democrat friends, this is the danger of voting for an "Oklahoma Democrat". When they get to Washington, they're going to vote the way they're told to vote - by guess whom?


20 posted on 01/11/2007 9:36:56 AM PST by OKSooner
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