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See Dick call. See Jane text. Why parents are giving in to children's requests for cell phones
Star Ledger ^ | 12.10.06 | KELLY HEYBOER

Posted on 01/01/2007 1:45:53 PM PST by Coleus

Joe Skarimbas was just learning to read when he decided he was ready to join the digital age. "When he went to first grade he said, 'When am I going to get a cell phone?'" said Joe's mother, Tara Skarimbas.

The Leonia family decided to hold off on getting young Joe a phone until he turns 10 and starts walking home from school alone. But his mother understands the temptation to get her son, who turns 8 this month, a cell phone as soon as possible.

"Just for safety purposes," she said, glancing toward the new Disney Mobile kiosk during a shopping trip to the Paramus Park mall last week.

As the adult and teenage cell phone market becomes saturated, cell phone companies are targeting younger and younger users. This holiday season several companies -- including Disney, Verizon, TicTalk and Firefly -- are pushing brightly colored cell phones specially designed for children as young as kindergartners.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cellphones; consumerculture; consumerism; culturewar; instantgratification; parentsnotfriends; tweens
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To: Fierce Allegiance; najida; trussell; HOTTIEBOY
Who the hell is this scumball to tell me i am wrong because I don't want to run into another situation where my kids sports are cancelled, andi don't want then walking home in a thunderstorm, when it's dark, along a busy highway?

How do you expect 'em to build any character? I bet you don't even make those girls split the kindling or milk the cow anymore. ;)
281 posted on 01/02/2007 12:28:33 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Xenalyte

LOL!

My daughters certainly do know how to do that stuff though!


282 posted on 01/02/2007 12:33:20 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: SittinYonder

Your dad.


283 posted on 01/02/2007 12:33:43 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething

:)


284 posted on 01/02/2007 12:35:16 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I thought the beauty of twins was tricking boyfriends.

Oh, wait, that's the beauty of BEING twins. (And it's exactly the kind of thing Auntie Xena is NOT supposed to tell the twin nieces.)


285 posted on 01/02/2007 12:35:46 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: John Jorsett

Me too.

I suppose someone with a 9-5 office type job may never need one, but people that work on-site and travel; not having a cell phone is unthinkable, Blakberry preferred.
P.S. Good luck finding a pay phone when you need it.
P.P.S. Stupid Blackberry!


286 posted on 01/02/2007 12:36:21 PM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: proud American in Canada

I'm not great yet, but I keep trying to get there. My dad, now there was a GREAT dad!


287 posted on 01/02/2007 12:36:28 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: swmobuffalo
I gave in despite serious misgivings and guess what, now I'm stuck with the freaking bill! I could strangle both of them!

Try a prepaid plan like TracFone. The kids get an hour of talk-time for $10/mo. They'll learn to use their time wisely. Or not.

288 posted on 01/02/2007 12:36:40 PM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: DainBramage

Just out of curiosity, since I don't have kids, why would your daughter be hanging out at school eight hours after class lets out?


289 posted on 01/02/2007 12:38:49 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Xenalyte

LOL! I won't give my twins Auntie Xena's e-mail any time soon!! They are only 10, and while one has a boy friend, they sure don't need boyfriends, and aren't allowed to until they own their own houses. :)


290 posted on 01/02/2007 12:42:06 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: greccogirl
The crime rate was worse then than now!! It is no more risky.

More or lesss, I don't give a damn. I can do something to minimize the chance my daughters are not part of the statistics, and that's giving them a cellphone.

291 posted on 01/02/2007 12:45:54 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: SoftballMominVA

You're dayum skippy you can be picked up for that!

The girls sound like they're just too young to understand that their insistence on quiet study time is putting you in jeopardy.


292 posted on 01/02/2007 12:47:56 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Coleus

Arming teachers sounds like a good idea, until you meet some teachers. Some should not be allowed to drive, much less encouraged to have a gun. Also, how hard would it be to steal a teachers gun? I doubt that many teachers here in the great state of MD are trainable enough to carry and RETAIN a handgun.


293 posted on 01/02/2007 12:47:56 PM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

You sure are liberal compared to my buddy James . . . he says his daughter won't be allowed to wear makeup until she turns 40.


294 posted on 01/02/2007 12:49:23 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Coleus

I told my kids they could have cell phones when they could pay for them.

Worked for me.


295 posted on 01/02/2007 12:51:11 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Please cite honest evidence that cell phones have increased accident rates. >>>
 
Here are some, now please cite honest evidence that cell phones have NOT increased accident rates.
 
New Study by The Federal Government Says that Cell Phones Are the Number One Distraction
The year long study videotaped volunteers while in their vehicles in order to determine exactly what driving behaviors cause crashes.  Cell phones came out as the number one distraction.
Researchers Say Talking on Phone "Ages" Drivers 50 Years
According to new research by Dr. David Strayer, a teen driver's "reaction times are the same as a 70-year-old driver," when they are one the phone. 
Cingular Urges Teen Drivers to Pull Over to Talk
Although it doesn't put enough emphasis on the distraction that cell phones pose (no surprise there), Cingular Wireless has released a very good teen driving video on distractions.  They do not suggest headsets. 

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It's No Accident: The Real Story Behind Senseless Death and Injury on Our Roads"
Written by the founder of Partnership for Safe Driving, the author reveals that many dangerous behaviors are now legally PROMOTED by businesses, and that drivers who kill often walk away with just a small fine. This well-documented expose is a must-read for anyone concerned about violent death and injury on our roads and how to stop it.  Read more...
A New Study by the NHTSA Finds Cell Phones are Most Common Distraction
The year long study videotaped volunteers while in their vehicles in order to determine exactly what driving behaviors cause crashes.  Cell phones came out number one.

The NHTSA (the U.S. Government) Says Headsets are Not Safer
The National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration (NHTSA) has released the results of a one-year study on driver distraction.  They say headsets do not improve driver performance.

The National Road Administration in Sweden
Released in June, 2003, this Swedish study concludes that using a hands free device does not diminish crash risk

Additional Study from the University of Utah
Released January 27, 2003. Why don't conversations with passengers, listening to the radio and other activities effect drivers to the same magnitude as cell phone conversations? Interview with Dr. Strayer by Sciencentral

The Harvard Center for Risk Analysis has recently updated a previous study.  They have estimated that each year, drivers on phones cause 2600 deaths, 570,000 injuries, and 1.5 million crashes causing property damage.

Does Cell Phone Conversation Impair Driving Performance?
This study is part of a larger research project conducted by the University of Utah researchers.  The conclusion is that the impairment comes from  the phone conversation itself, not holding the device.

University of Rhode Island
Cognitive researcher Jerry Cohen's preliminary findings conclude that phone conversations cause "tunnel vision" in drivers.  He states that holding the phone isn't the main issue.  Thinking is.

University of Kansas
Cognitive researchers at KU conclude that "It's not having your hands taken away (from the wheel), it's having your mind taken away from the road".  June 24, 2003 interview with Dr. Paul Atchley.

New England Journal of Medicine
This is one of the major studies that came to two astonishing conclusions:  Hands free equipment does not make a difference in limiting driver distraction, and simultaneously carrying on a phone conversation while driving is equivalent to driving legally intoxicated!

The Insurance Corporation of British Columbia
This study concludes that "a driver's performance is significantly undermined when the motorist is engaged in a conversation on a hands-free cellular phone".

Common Objections to Banning Phones While Driving
A list of objections, and responses to this issue.  There's a lot of logic here
Does Cell Phone Conversation Impair Driving Performance? Dr. David Strayer, Frank Drews, Robert Albert and William Johnston, University of Utah 

Association Between Cellular Telephone Calls and Motor Vehicle Collisions, The New England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 336, 1997, Donald A. Redelmeier, MD, and Robert J. Tibshirani, PH.D.
The Texas Department of Public Safety Releases Cell Phone Crash Data
The number of traffic accidents attributed to cell phone use is up 44 percent in one year. Approximately 1000 Texas crashes and 8 deaths for the year 2001

interview with Sciencentral, Dr. David Strayer explains why using a head set does not diminish driver distraction.

For the months of April - December 2001, the California Highway Patrol attributed at least 4,699 crashes, 2,786 injuries, and 31 deaths to cell phones.  The stats were only reported for 9 months, the LA Times reports that the number of crashes for the entire year could be well over 6,000.  here is a link to an the original article


296 posted on 01/02/2007 1:28:56 PM PST by Coleus (Happy New Year!)
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To: Aquinasfan

"Try a prepaid plan like TracFone"

Thanks but it's a little past that now. I still have a bill to take care that they were supposed to take care. Once it's paid up, NO PHONE in my name for them.


297 posted on 01/02/2007 1:33:33 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: swmobuffalo

My husband has refused to add our 13 year old daughter to our plan. But she has my old pre-pay phone that she uses when she if she is at an activity at school and needs one of us. She hates that phone it is not a flip phone and can't take pictures.... oh well.


298 posted on 01/02/2007 1:37:44 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: swmobuffalo

My husband has refused to add our 13 year old daughter to our plan. But she has my old pre-pay phone that she uses when she if she is at an activity at school and needs one of us. She hates that phone it is not a flip phone and can't take pictures.... oh well.


299 posted on 01/02/2007 1:37:49 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: Unassuaged
I don't know how it should be implemented. The first should be training. Also, there are some ex-military who do teach in schools, some are also retired cops.

For the best results, they should research how the Israelis do it. Most of the teachers there have been armed for decades. They know from past experience how to fight terrorists. It's laughable that a cell phone could help in any situation, just like the tape recorder did not help the teacher in the thread I posted above. And at the Columbine High School incident, it was clearly noted that the HELP, the police, prevented no further deaths, the deaths continued while the police were there. It took the police 4 hours to search the building while students bled to death even with a sign on the window indicating the classroom where the student was bleeding.
300 posted on 01/02/2007 1:39:24 PM PST by Coleus (Happy New Year!)
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