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See Dick call. See Jane text. Why parents are giving in to children's requests for cell phones
Star Ledger ^ | 12.10.06 | KELLY HEYBOER

Posted on 01/01/2007 1:45:53 PM PST by Coleus

Joe Skarimbas was just learning to read when he decided he was ready to join the digital age. "When he went to first grade he said, 'When am I going to get a cell phone?'" said Joe's mother, Tara Skarimbas.

The Leonia family decided to hold off on getting young Joe a phone until he turns 10 and starts walking home from school alone. But his mother understands the temptation to get her son, who turns 8 this month, a cell phone as soon as possible.

"Just for safety purposes," she said, glancing toward the new Disney Mobile kiosk during a shopping trip to the Paramus Park mall last week.

As the adult and teenage cell phone market becomes saturated, cell phone companies are targeting younger and younger users. This holiday season several companies -- including Disney, Verizon, TicTalk and Firefly -- are pushing brightly colored cell phones specially designed for children as young as kindergartners.

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KEYWORDS: cellphones; consumerculture; consumerism; culturewar; instantgratification; parentsnotfriends; tweens
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no child uner 18 needs a cell phone. we all grew up and survived without them.
1 posted on 01/01/2007 1:45:54 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Sure. And nobody needs iPods, automatic transmissions, power steering, food processors, plasma TVs, central air conditioning or permanent press clothes.


2 posted on 01/01/2007 1:50:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Coleus

My 5-year-old has a pocket calculator that he uses to contact his mother ship, in orbit over our subdivision. The 3-year-old has an old cordless telephone receiver that he uses to call his brother!


3 posted on 01/01/2007 1:53:12 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: Coleus

I gave in despite serious misgivings and guess what, now I'm stuck with the freaking bill! I could strangle both of them!


4 posted on 01/01/2007 1:53:38 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Coleus

I don't own a cell phone, so maybe I'm biased, but I can't personally think of a good reason why someone who is six or maybe even eight years-old would need one.


5 posted on 01/01/2007 1:54:36 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: Coleus
Except even our high school sends kids to detention and confiscates their cells phones and won't return them until the parent goes in to pay the $15 ransom. No tolerance policy can't distinguish between a student carrying it in their pocket for safety reasons for after school activities or walking home, as opposed to playing with it in class and cheating on tests.

Ya know, I'd be talking to the sheriff so fast if I even thought about holding the principal's cell phone for ransom.
6 posted on 01/01/2007 1:55:12 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Coleus

It's disturbing to an 'old-timer' like me. This past Thanksgiving, when my sister's family came to visit us from out of the state - I was looking forward to getting to visit with my niece & nephew, who I rarely get to see.

What disturbed me, was that she let them both bring their laptops & cellphones - they spent the whole visit - emailing & text messaging their friends back home. I hardly got to talk to them.

I found myself wishing for a power failure so we could just "talk" to each other, like back in the old days.


7 posted on 01/01/2007 1:55:34 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I've noticed how boring some movies can be now days because the plot revolves around cell phone calls. No drama, no suspense, no charm.


8 posted on 01/01/2007 1:55:56 PM PST by donna
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To: Coleus
no child uner 18 needs a cell phone. we all grew up and survived without them.

Unfortunately the world has changed since you and I grew up. I have an 8 year old and a 5 year old. Believe me, I'm not excited about the idea of a cell phone for them either but the realities of the situation are that times have changed. I won't let him walk to school alone either and we did that ALL OF THE TIME as kids. Too many predators out there. Society is sick and you have to at least think about what safety options you wish to provide your kids. Of course, the other day on the way home I witnessed a car crash here in Los Angeles on the 105 freeway. I called 911 on my cell phone and it took 7 minutes for the operator to finally answer (was on hold the entire time). What a joke.

9 posted on 01/01/2007 1:56:08 PM PST by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: NapkinUser
"I can't personally think of a good reason why someone who is six or maybe even eight years-old would need one"

Communication?


10 posted on 01/01/2007 1:58:04 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

you got power steering ?


11 posted on 01/01/2007 1:58:29 PM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: Coleus

I think nobody over 18 should own a cell phone. Many use it on the trains, airplanes and while driving.


12 posted on 01/01/2007 1:59:05 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: mtbopfuyn
"No tolerance policy can't distinguish between a student carrying it in their pocket for safety reasons for after school activities or walking home..."

No offense, but that sounds like a really lame excuse. For safety reasons, in high school? What possible and realistic situation would not having a cell phone put them in real danger as opposed to carrying one?
13 posted on 01/01/2007 1:59:06 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: Coleus
no child uner 18 needs a cell phone. we all grew up and survived without them.

To be technical no one needs anything except food, water and shelter.

However I can see where kids would want cell phones, (back when I was a kid it was a watch) and I can see where parents would find them handy.

14 posted on 01/01/2007 2:00:48 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (We must have faith For when it is all said and done, Faith manages. And the impossible is achieved)
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To: swmobuffalo; All

Switch your plan to pre-paid. And when they use them up, tough. YOU set the limit and they can buy additional minutes as they need them. Or they can buy ALL the minutes they want each month.

Bet they learn to budget their minutes within a month. :)

We never paid for a cellphone for our teen, but when he wanted one, we allowed him to have one...on his dime. He ran out of minutes a lot at first, but he figured it out quickly enough.

I don't care what other parents do or don't do for their kids. I care about teaching kids valuable lessons, though. Every situation can be a teaching tool if you look at it that way.


15 posted on 01/01/2007 2:00:56 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: I see my hands

"Communication?"

Still doesn't seem to justify owning one. They can't use it in schools, most six year old kids aren't away from their parents' supervision often. Maybe if they're at a friends' house, but even then I expect the friends' parents to own a telephone, making the cell phone expendable.


16 posted on 01/01/2007 2:02:51 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: NapkinUser

You'd let your kid walk home alone now days?

You'd let your kid sit up at school by himself for hours because he didn't have a phone to call home to say practice had been cancelled?

And the only time the nurse will call the parent when the child is sick is if he has 102 temperature.


17 posted on 01/01/2007 2:03:02 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: NapkinUser
No offense, but that sounds like a really lame excuse. For safety reasons, in high school? What possible and realistic situation would not having a cell phone put them in real danger as opposed to carrying one?
For after school activities mostly, and that includes safety. Especially depending on your high school. No everyone goes to schools in the suburbs where everything is perfectopia.
18 posted on 01/01/2007 2:03:03 PM PST by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: Coleus

I don't mind a kid having a cell phone but they really don't need them in the classroom or similar places. It's a responsibility they should learn and earn.

I've seen cell phones used as really great tools by parents.


19 posted on 01/01/2007 2:03:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: SideoutFred

Thanks for making my point better than I would have.

It's for SAFETY purposes. Just because some people survived without something doesn't mean others should do the same or that it's even advisable.

I grew up without any connection to firearms but now I own a few and wouldn't want to hear someone tell me how "i grew up and lived to see my 30th without owning an EVIIIIL gun."

Just get a prepaid cell so that the kid isn't spending all the money talking to friends.


20 posted on 01/01/2007 2:03:49 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: alicewonders
I found myself wishing for a power failure so we could just "talk" to each other, like back in the old days.

A lot of people would rather text than talk. I don't like the interpersonal isolation technology has brought us and would think the laptops and cells could have been put on pause for that one day - but then again, I'm not their parents. But that's part of it, technology is a nice, entertaining, method of babysitting and lots of parents will give in just to shut up the grousing.
21 posted on 01/01/2007 2:03:56 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Coleus

no child uner 18 needs a cell phone. we all grew up and survived without them.






We all grew up without them in a much different world.


22 posted on 01/01/2007 2:04:48 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good advice Diana.

I hope all is well in Wisconsin. I went to Marquette University, but do not miss the cold weathers now that I'm in Los Angeles. I do miss the people, however.


23 posted on 01/01/2007 2:04:51 PM PST by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: Coleus

I was hoping I could die of old age without ever having dealt with cell phones, but it's not possible. Three or four years ago I was getting into too much trouble from not being able to find pay phones any more, they no longer exist. When I was a child I was never more than a hundred yards from a pay phone even out in the forest...


24 posted on 01/01/2007 2:05:48 PM PST by jeddavis
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To: Coleus

If they are so worried about saftely, sew a GPS tracker in their clothing. Then you will know exactly where they are, without a huge phone bill.


25 posted on 01/01/2007 2:05:57 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Coleus

My sons, ages 12 and 9, don't have cell phones. Or Gameboys. Or IPods. Or Nintendo, Playstation, Wii, or any sort of video game. Or cable TV. Or TVs in their rooms. We have one TV in the family room. Sometimes, we watch it. Mostly, we listen to classical music on the stereo. They don't like it much when Mom or Dad play old rock 'n roll stuff.

They do, however, have great bicycles, a football, a basketball, a basketball hoop, a bunch of bats, baseballs, and baseball gloves, and a large yard in which to play. When it's too dark, rainy, or cold, they have a nice piano, and know what to do with it. They have lots of board games, including everyday chess sets and special chess sets, and lots of books, lots of magazines, and a nice set of classic films on videotape and DVD.

They tell me that they don't have any sense of being deprived.


26 posted on 01/01/2007 2:06:15 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Coleus
I would amend that to include 16/17 year old drivers. I would never want my 16 year old on the road without the ability to call me. There aren't banks of pay phones on the sides of the road like there were when I grew up.

But a non-driving teenager? I question the need and especially for an elementary student!

27 posted on 01/01/2007 2:06:37 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: NapkinUser
Fair enough. In your view communication isn't a good reason.

28 posted on 01/01/2007 2:08:22 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I agree whole heartedly. You can save your money for a phone, but I won't and you won't save our money for a PS3, Xbox or WII. Sorry, kid.


29 posted on 01/01/2007 2:08:45 PM PST by steveyp
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To: Coleus

How did we survive before cell phones? Have they made us more productive? Other things like microwave ovens, permanent press clothes, food processors and such have made our lives easier but a cell phone just complicates things more.


30 posted on 01/01/2007 2:10:10 PM PST by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: sitetest
Sitetest! No ipod or gameboy or nintendo or cable TV!! is that legal in this country? I dunno, might be time to call CPS and report the lack of electronic hookups in your house!

:)

(You know I'm kidding right?) Hey, have your kids ever told you to turn the music down because it's too loud? I heard that yesterday when I was playing some good ol' Elvis and both of my girls yelled down to turn that music down because they couldn't read with it in the background. Elvis! how can you play Elvis quietly?

31 posted on 01/01/2007 2:10:17 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: mtbopfuyn
A school isn't a law enforcement agency and has no power to levy fines or confiscate private property. In fact, under the law, I'd say that taking possession of your kid's cell phone constitutes the tort of conversion. Have you considered complaining to the authorities yourself?
32 posted on 01/01/2007 2:10:25 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: SoftballMominVA

On 9/11 cell phones were the primary source of communication. Kids as young as 9 or 10 are flying around the city on subways and buses everyday by themselves or in small packs.


33 posted on 01/01/2007 2:11:06 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"Switch your plan to pre-paid."

That's great but there still a bill whether you keep the current service or not. Something about a penalty for ending the contract early.


34 posted on 01/01/2007 2:11:23 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Coleus

Since we homeschool my kids aren't in a large school setting or a big group of people everyday, but I do give them my own cell phone if they are at a public event, shopping, out with friends, etc, and they may to need to reach their dad or me.

As each one of our children got a driver's license, they also got their own phone. That is just plain common sense nowdays.

Too many things can happen out and I want my kids to be able to contact me in case they need to.

But, I do tire of cell phones....kind of a love-hate thing with those darn things :)


35 posted on 01/01/2007 2:12:06 PM PST by MTMS
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To: swmobuffalo

Tell the little slackers that you're withholding their allowances and they can pick up after-school jobs until the bill is paid.

Parents Unite! :)


36 posted on 01/01/2007 2:12:22 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Coleus

They don't NEED cell phones but it makes life a little less worrisome knowing they have one. I just called my youngest son and told him to get his 2 kids the ones that they can only call 4 numbers and have GPS so he will know where they are. My other 2 grandchildren have phones, we all have extremely busy lives and they can call us or either of their parents when plans change or they need to be picked up or any of a number of things. Cell phones have saved us lots of gas, I can locate my husband anytime I need to and I don't have to get in my vehicle and drive all over the county trying to find him when I need to give him an important message.


37 posted on 01/01/2007 2:12:29 PM PST by tiki
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To: AD from SpringBay
But that's part of it, technology is a nice, entertaining, method of babysitting and lots of parents will give in just to shut up the grousing.

Those were my exact thoughts - my sister gave in to it, mostly because she has spoiled her children & they know if they whine long enough - they will get it.

I can see why in these times, kids need a cell phone - for safety reasons & to communicate with their parents. When I was a kid, times were different.

But, when I was a kid & we were visiting at relative's houses - we were expected to converse & use manners - to ACT like we wanted to be there, even if we would rather be at home with our friends. (I do remember discovering my aunt's "True Confessions" magazines in her closet - I spent many entertaining hours reading those things when I got the chance!)

38 posted on 01/01/2007 2:13:17 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: mtbopfuyn
Teachers giving tests have to watch for kids sending each other text messages about that test.

Kids having them for after-school activities/parent pick-up is one thing. Just to say they have one is another. My grandchildren are 10 to 15 - none have them yet. They talk about them, but understand the cost involved.

39 posted on 01/01/2007 2:13:18 PM PST by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Coleus

"no child uner 18 needs a cell phone."

Sure they do. How else are they going to learn to become self-absorbed a-holes?

Otherwise, they might go into a business establishment NOT on the phone, NOT making sure everyone in ear-shot can hear their "private" conversations. Heck, they may even look at the clerk or *gasp* speak to the clerk. I wish I had a nickel for every vulgarity that's been loudly spoken into a cell phone by someone standing right next to me in public.

So, by all means, let's have more of it.


40 posted on 01/01/2007 2:14:29 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
We had a friend whose 15 year old daughter ran up the first cell phone bill to the tune of over $300. I was impressed with what he did. He didn't cancel the phone, he paid the bill, then she had to get a job. The only place that will hire 15 year olds in our area is Dominoes. So every night when she got back home tired and hot and stinky, he would mark off of his chart how much she earned that night to pay against the $300 debt she owed him. After about 2 months she paid it off and he let her quit. She never even came close to her minutes after that because as she told me it wasn't worth the time on her feet to pay off a conversation she could have free on the land-line.
41 posted on 01/01/2007 2:15:02 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: skimask
How did we survive before cell phones? Have they made us more productive? Other things like microwave ovens, permanent press clothes, food processors and such have made our lives easier but a cell phone just complicates things more.

It's certainly made me more productive. Many's the time I had to cool my heels waiting for someone to show up for an appointment. Now they can call me to tell me they're going to be late or need to reschedule, or I can call them to ask when they'll be arriving. The only time I think modern communications are detrimental is when your work can contact you whenever they want (like vacations, dinner, at a movie, etc.), as opposed to what used to be "office hours." Luckily, that sort of thing isn't an issue for me.

42 posted on 01/01/2007 2:17:22 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: swmobuffalo
I gave in despite serious misgivings and guess what, now I'm stuck with the freaking bill! I could strangle both of them!

I only use my cell phone for emergencies. IOW almost never, maybe 4-10 minutes a year. This type of thing is perfect: no monthly bill, just buy some minutes once a year.

http://www.tracfone.com/home_page.jsp

43 posted on 01/01/2007 2:17:42 PM PST by freespirited (Honk for disbarment of Mike Nifong.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Dear SoftballMominVA,

LOL. I have been threatened with calls to Child Protective Services when folks discover how much I deprive my sons. Especially the cable TV! That just OUTRAGES people!

Most folks are kidding, although when we first moved in to our current neighborhood, and folks found out that we homeschooled...

"Hey, have your kids ever told you to turn the music down because it's too loud?"

No, I haven't. Usually, they want me to turn it up. Way up. Especially when listening to the "Ode to Joy," or "Rhapsody in Blue," or some other favorite.

If we're playing rock 'n roll, they just tell us to turn it off. ;-)


sitetest


44 posted on 01/01/2007 2:18:29 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Coleus

Unless your child is confined to home until 18, it's not a bad idea for them to have a cell phone. When my kids are old enough to go out with friends to the mall, movies, etc., they carry a cell phone. It's for SAFETY.


45 posted on 01/01/2007 2:22:04 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: SideoutFred
Too many predators out there.

Yeah. Only about 2200 in my zipcode.

46 posted on 01/01/2007 2:23:16 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: Coleus

Not all my childhood friends grew up and survived. I don't know if a cell phone would have saved them, but it is one tool that does allow for increased communication.

My kids get one when they start driving (one of four so far). I send my phone with the younger ones when they go someplace w/o me, library, post office, etc.

That way, they can call me if something comes up or I can call them and tell them to come home because dinners ready.


47 posted on 01/01/2007 2:23:23 PM PST by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Well said.


48 posted on 01/01/2007 2:23:56 PM PST by jonno (...it almost seems as if the Universe must in some sense have known that we were coming...)
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To: NapkinUser
What possible and realistic situation would not having a cell phone put them in real danger as opposed to carrying one?

How long a list do you want?

49 posted on 01/01/2007 2:24:17 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: Coleus

As one with 17 (going on 25) year old daughters.

The phones are for us, not them. They carry or they stay home. They answer when we call or they stay home the next time. They check in when required or they stay home the next time.

Other than that, they can use them to chat with their friends.


50 posted on 01/01/2007 2:24:26 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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