[blam]

GGG Ping.

This is the next Christmas gift I will read.

Origins Of The British

[LiteKeeper]

As frivolous as this may seem, sometimes it is kinda fun to speculate about.

[blam]

Origins Of The British

This book challenges some of our longest held assumptions about the differences between Anglo-Saxons and Celts – perceived differences that have informed our collective sense of identity.
Orthodox history has long taught that the Romans found a uniformly Celtic population throughout the British Isles, but that the peoples of the English heartland fell victim to genocide by the Anglo-Saxon hordes during the fifth and sixth centuries.

Now Stephen Oppenheimer’s groundbreaking genetic research has revealed that the ‘Anglo-Saxon invasion’ contributed only a tiny fraction to the English gene pool. In fact, three quarters of English people can trace an unbroken line of genetic descent through their parental genes from settlers arriving long before the introduction of farming.

Synthesizing the genetic evidence with linguistics, archaeology and the historical record, Oppenheimer shows how long-term Scandinavian trade and immigration contributed the remaining quarter – mostly before the arrival of the Anglo-Saxons. These migrations may have introduced the earliest forms of English.

And what of the Celts we know – the Irish, Scots and Welsh? Scholars have traditionally placed their origins in Iron Age Central Europe, but Oppenheimer’s new data clearly show that the Welsh, Irish and other Atlanticfringe peoples derive from Ice Age refuges in the Basque country and Spain.They came by an Atlantic coastal route many thousands of years ago, though the Celtic languages we know of today were brought in by later migrations, following the same route, during Neolithic times.

Stephen Oppenheimer shows us, in his meticulous analysis, that there is in truth a deep genetic line dividing the English from the rest of the British people but that, fascinatingly, the roots of that separate identity go back not 1500 years but 6,000.The real story of the British peoples is one of extraordinary continuity and enduring lineage that has survived all onslaughts.

Stephen Oppenheimer of University of Oxford is a leading expert in the use of DNA to track migrations. His last book Out of Eden rewrote the prehistory of man’s peopling of the world in a thesis that has since been confirmed in Science. He is also the author of Eden in the East:The Drowned Continent of Southeast Asia, which challenged the orthodox view of the origins of Polynesians as rice farmers from Taiwan.

[blam]

Celtic Found To Have Ancient Roots

[blam]

Descendent Of Stone Age Skeleton Found (Cheddar Man - 9,000 Years Old)

[blam]

English And Welsh Are Races Apart

[Cacique]

btt

[SoCalPol]

Thanks for a great post.
Having traced several hundred of my lines back to this time frame in England and beyond, am always interested in this subject.

[justa-hairyape]

The Ui Neill Y-chromosome was originally discovered by scientists at Trinity College, Dublin, and was found in 23 per cent of all men in north-west Ireland. Intriguingly, 17 per cent of men in central and west Scotland have it, as do 2 per cent of US males. The Irish, and later the Scots, were great travellers, so that around three million men worldwide now possess this chromosome.

Interesting. So approximately 1 out of every 500 males on the planet have significant Irish or Scoti genes ? Not bad for a small island tribal group.

[SunkenCiv]

Niall's nine hostages must have been nine women who were pregnant a lot. :')

Irish History Takes a Paternity Test
ScienceNOW Daily News | 21 December 2005 | Michael Schirber
Posted on 12/27/2005 3:10:30 AM EST by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1547473/posts

Scientists discover most fertile Irish male
Reuters on Yahoo | 1/17/06 | Siobhan Kennedy
Posted on 01/17/2006 12:16:45 PM EST by NormsRevenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1559642/posts

If New York's Irish Claim Nobility, Science May Back Up the Blarney
NY Times | January 18, 2006 | NICHOLAS WADE
Posted on 01/18/2006 12:53:58 AM EST by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1560100/posts

and:

The Quest for the $1,000 Human Genome
NY Terrorist Tip Sheet | July 18, 2006 | NICHOLAS WADE
Posted on 07/18/2006 12:51:24 AM EDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667602/posts

The Wide, Wild World of Genetic Testing
NY Times | September 12, 2006 | ANDREW POLLACK
Posted on 09/15/2006 1:11:28 AM EDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701849/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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[Conservativegreatgrandma]

I am convinced there is an inborn difference in the way conservatives think from liberals. Can anyone shed light?

[Drango]

I can highly recommend http://www.familytreedna.com/ for having your DNA done. They are the largest and one of the first DNA testing firms...Click on the link and in the upper right hand corner put in your last name to see if there is a surname project. I found a lost relative!

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