Charges against Kan. abortion doc dumped [George Tiller]

Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | Dec. 22, 2006, 1:46PM | ROXANA HEGEMAN Associated Press Writer

[madprof98]

You're one of them, aren't you? Do you honestly think that any of the millions of oppressed people who looked at Lady Liberty with such awe could even have imagined that their descendants would someday equate freedom with baby-butchery???? You and your libertarian buddies are living proof that this country has gone to hell.

[gcruse]

Those who would deny others the freedom to live their lives must not have enough to do in their own.

[Deo volente]

This fiend even provides "baptism" services for the children he kills.

I don't even want to link anything about it at the moment, it's just too sickening, but you can easily search for it.

[madprof98]

Those who would deny others the freedom to live their lives must not have enough to do in their own.

You and your kind would have partied in the shadows of Auschwitz.

[Gene Eric]

>> ... and Tiller was shot in both arms by a protester in 1993.

Is this an instance of bad aim or poor judgment?

[Gene Eric]

>> George Tiller boasts of killing full-term babies. He photographs them in baby clothes. He has some of them baptized!

As advertised on Tiller's web-site.

This is societal derangement. Tiller actions are horrifying, the fact the government allows it to continue is anarchical.

[Gene Eric]

>> ... it's just too sickening, but you can easily search for it.

I too had the same reaction and decided to search the Internet for confirmation. I found it on Tiller's website.

I'm very troubled by the sense of National paralysis. We know this behavior is absolutely wrong, but it continues and the lives of the innocent are not spared. Why do these women allow this to happen to their children? Why are the fathers silent? This is animalistic and I regret this abject subdivision of our species bears the undeserving title of humanity.

To adorn the killed babies with ceremonial clothing and provide rights of passage into a religious faith is simply pathological. Tiller is facilitating a value system that devalues the welfare of maturing babies to that of clinical waste and then masquerades behind superficial sensitivities. He is only but one of many who exemplify this flawed characteristic of civilization. Is it a stretch to imagine an abortion package where Tiller performs a sacrificial kind of abortion using a mock alter and dressed in tribal witch doctor attire? Would this not be fitting in our 'diverse' society that aims to please anyone in any way whatsoever, and not to forget, at any cost?

This fight on behalf of the innocent is not the exclusive responsibility of the faithful. To those that contend the cause of defending the innocent is not a cause for all of humanity, you are fatuous.

[wintertime]

The incoming attorney general, Democrat Paul Morrison, has criticized Kline for seeking the records, describing it as an invasion of the patients' privacy, but he wouldn't say if he would drop any investigation Kline started against the clinics ( from the article)

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So,,child rape is a "private matter"? ( sarc)

[gcruse]

Congratulations. You played the Nazi card. You lose.

[hinckley buzzard]

It does sound like an invasion of privacy to grab medical records of private citizens without their consent.

Guess what. It happens all the time in the WoD. Adjudicated and approved long since.

[gcruse]

"Is this an instance of bad aim or poor judgment?'

Nah. Just social conservatism by other means.

[Gondring]

Nice job, Godwin.

[cgk]

Those who would deny others the freedom to live their lives must not have enough to do in their own.

I can't even wrap my mind around the fact that I am reading this statement on a 'PRO-GOD, PRO-LIFE' forum, on an thread discussing an ABORTIONIST (and those who support him) who DENIES BABIES THE FREEDOM TO LIVE THEIR LIVES, and that this statement is directed against PRO-LIFE FREEPERS who would put an end to this butchery.

[Gene Eric]

>> Those who would deny others the freedom to live their lives must not have enough to do in their own.

Are you referring to abortionists who deny life to younglings? Or, those who wish to deny abortionists the freedom to practice the denial of life?

Please clarify. I'm confused as to which side of the bloody red line you stand?

[hinckley buzzard]

>> ... and Tiller was shot in both arms by a protester in 1993.

Is this an instance of bad aim or poor judgment?

Either way that "protester" deserves a mulligan.

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

"It does sound like an invasion of privacy to grab medical records of private citizens without their consent. It looks like we had a nice crackdown against executive activism here by the judicial branch...interesting.

If a doctor was willing to certify each of the abortions was legit, then that met the law, from my understanding...nothing to base this on. But IANAL."

What about children who are under age? Can a doctor that does nothing but abortions really verify that the childs parents knew and approved?

The issue here was solely whether or not statutory rapes were being covered up by adult men who fathered babies with underage girls.

[Gondring]

There is a strong suspicion that abortion mills are not reporting evidence of rape and statutory rape.

Agreed. I think this is rampant.

But it doesn't seem to be the main focus of the investigation in the article...

Kline has been investigating whether Tiller and other abortion providers performed illegal late-term abortions in Kansas or failed to report suspected child abuse as required by law. Earlier this year, he obtained the records of 90 patients from Tiller's clinic and a clinic operated by Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri.

Under Kansas law, if a woman wants to obtain an abortion after the 22nd week of her pregnancy, a doctor must first determine whether the fetus can survive outside the womb. If the fetus is viable, the procedure can be used only to preserve her physical or mental health.

None of the abortions involved a late-term procedure opponents call "partial birth" abortion, Kline said. The charges involve situations in which Tiller cannot demonstrate that a woman faced permanent damage to a major bodily function, or Tiller's conclusion that some patients' mental health would be harmed if they did not have abortions, Kline said.

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

"His disregard for the Constitution he allegedly serves is appalling (not just here, where he files charges that he had to know would be immediately tossed, but in many other cases). I am glad he has been bounced."

Disregard for the Constitution? He had subpeonas for those 90 records. That means a judge signed off on them being turned over based on the evidence Kline showed the judge.

What part of the Constitution do you think was disregarded?

[Torie]

performed illegal late-term abortions in Kansas

I thought SCOTUS told us that all abortions were legal, and as American as apple pie. What am I missing?

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

"A 10 year old being pregnant is prima facie evidence of rape. Why are you uninterested in the rape of a 10 year old?"

very simple, she is a liberal dem that never heard of an abortion she did not like.

I can not understand why we can not get rid of her. I don't remember the last time anyone even ran against her.