Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 17 December 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 17 December 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, December 17th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.; FedEx Corp. CEO Frederick Smith; retired Marine Corps Commandant Gen. P.X. Kelley, co-chairmen of the Energy Security Leadership Council; Morrill Worcester, president of Worcester Wreath.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Former Secretary of State Colin Powell.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Incoming Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.; retired Army Gen. Jack Keane; Rep.-elect Joe Sestak, D-Pa.; actor and activist Isaiah Washington.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Iraqi Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi; Sens. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., and Jack Reed, D-R.I.; Shibley Telhami, Brookings Institution; retired Army Gen. Daniel Christman; Vali Nasr, Council on Foreign Relations; John Podesta, Center for American Progress; Danielle Pletka, American Enterprise Institute.

[Phsstpok]

Newt: "All of our instruments of civilian power are broken."

Couple that with his comments about how well the military is operating, including in Iraq, and I think he's starting to frame the argument that it's not Rummy's fault, which is important to me.

I blame our problems in Iraq 100% at the feet of Colin Powell and his hand picked provisional authority boss, Bremer.  Rebuilding Iraq's institutions were their responsibilities.  They blew it entirely.  All of the criticisms leveled at Rummy about "mistakes" are their fault.  Things such as disbanding the army, was done by Bremer at Powell's order. 

[Phsstpok]

Blabbering something about keeping the troops "out of harms way". Heck I thought the "troops" job classification was to be in "harms way"

That is the job description, along with "killing people and breaking things," as Rummy put it.  Otto Preminger even used In Harms Way as the title for a great John Wayne WW2 movie (at least I thought it was great).  

[samantha]

#328, LOL! I would not let them use my Bathroom either, I would have to use three gallons of bleach to disinfect it so that normal people could use it again.

[Bahbah]

I blame our problems in Iraq 100% at the feet of Colin Powell and his hand picked provisional authority boss, Bremer.

Once again, we find ourselves in agreement. By the way, I notice Friedman employs one of the more juvenile speech affectations most often heard from raving leftist callers to C-Span, the punctuation of his points with "Okay!" I ridiculed him some years ago for trying to look wise by making a tent with his hands and he promptly dropped that silly affectation, so I'm going to hope that he pays attention to what I tell him and drops the "Okay" thing as well. It makes him sound like an adolescent.

[Txsleuth]

LOL...at least you have cobwebs for an excuse!!

No such thing here.

[rodguy911]

I have never seen anyone as arrogant as Friedman, he is tops.

[Txsleuth]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1754865/posts

Here is a thread about your favorite guy, Colin Powell...it doesn't sound like he is taking any blame...

[snugs]

I understand but crazy as it is I think that in certain quarters a reformed drunk will be looked on more favourably than a 3 times married man.

Someone with a drinking problem can do something about it 3 times married man can do very little apart from be contrite about it.

As I said before it is not fair but somehow someone who drinks heavily will be treated differently than someone who has cheated on their wife(wives).

As you say lets wait for the debates and see how things pan out.

Sorry if it came over I was arguing with you but was just saying that IMHO it is 2 different things or more accurately considered to be - one is being one of the boys the other has different moral connotations.

[rodguy911]

Yeah this is an era of everybody copying everybody especially in fishing tackle(I don't have 200 models of fishing rods just for grins) there are a bunch of diving plugs that all seem to work.

[Alas Babylon!]

###### Paged: Matt Drudge - The Mendacity Of the Liberal Press.

Good article, but Alicia needs to find Free Republic. Much better than Lucianne.com.

[snugs]

Now you have done it - here is me at my company's Christmas do on Friday. Following are photos of my 2 Christmas trees

[rodguy911]

Very nice snugs, very nice!

[Alas Babylon!]

Newt made a good point about the partisanship having now become pathological. It really is worse than it's ever been, and I put this right at the Clinton's doorstep.

Absolutely!

The whole political landscape changed due to the Clintons', and the Clintonistas now stuffing the halls of the DBM. Clinton could have, should have, switched to governing the country in 1993 but kept on campaigning as if he wasn't sure he was president (which, in his weird way, made sense since he had to use Ross Perot to win with the same percentage (43%) that Dukakis got creamed with 4 years earlier). When 1994 came and he lost both houses of Congress, the man and his staff, with a useful, foolish, and willing press corps, went on the attack, and the DBM and Dems have been in this mode ever since.

[Lead Moderator]

Say bye-bye, troll

[PerConPat]

Couple that with his comments about how well the military is operating, including in Iraq, and I think he's starting to frame the argument that it's not Rummy's fault, which is important to me.

Very possible...G.W. Bush, Rumsfeld or any leader presented with the crisis of a 9/11's magnitude is bound to make mistakes that can easily be spun into political gold by a treacherous, power at any price, opposition. Imagine the field day that the Pubs might have had with Pearl Harbor etc. if the same perverted, Dim lust for power ran through the Right's veins.

Rumsfeld did what he could with what he had to work with; and Friedman this morning showed himself to be the smarmy, tool of the Left, kibitzer that he is. If the will of the people of the US had been such that a united, strenuous effort could have been made in Iraq, Ahmadinejad and his ilk would now be resting less comfortably in their terrorist enabling countries.

History, IMHO, will recognize and credit Rumsfeld for being the first SECDEF to seriously confront the Middle Eastern viper. And no matter what those- myself included- who called for massive use of force may say, Rumsfeld had to deal with the political as well as military considerations. He will always have my respect and gratitude.

[Phsstpok]

As Graymatter said, Hitler was Time's Man Of The Year in 1938. They defend this with their "for good or ill" line, yet they always treat it as an honor.

Hitler had a big following in this country, including some very influential people, such as Joe Kennedy and Charles Lindbergh.  After all, he got the trains running on time and banned guns in private ownership.  Walter Winchell, the Rush Limbaugh of his day, was one of the few who saw him for what he was and told people what the movement he represented really was about.  Just as Rush and people like Glenn Beck are doing today.

The supporters of Herr Hitler then, and the secret (or even unknowing) ones now, also like the fact that he hated smoking and all things in the Judeo-Christian religious heritage of western civilization.  His "master race" came from "pure Aryan stock," the same people that populate modern day Iran.  Nice non Anglo-Saxon ethnic types that todays multiculturalists can champion as being superior to all of those "dead white men" who gave us nasty things like America.  In fact, the name of that country was changed in the 30's from Persia to Iran, which is a reference to that Aryan racial heritage, in honor of the Nazi racial theories.  Hence the direct connection to the current fascination with Ahmadinijad.  Everything old is new again.

[samantha]

It just may be my receiver that is off, it is seven years old, and is a Hughes that has outlasted two other receivers a Panasonic and an RCA. I will find out soon enough. It better be in sync on January 14, 2007. I remember when Hillary tried to cause Strom Thurmond so much stress and Biden of all people stepped in and demanded an end to the very late sessions so that he (Strom) would not be worked to Death. I realized then that no matter how much of a scumbag Biden is, he has an ounce of Humanity which is a quart more than Hillary. I really began to see what a "Power at all cost by any means", "screw everyone else" thing Hillary is. There is a lot of visceral hatred just seething in that Woman.

[Alas Babylon!]

Kennedy states as fact 36 million people in America are going to bed hungry each night, most of them children.

Probably because "Uncle Teddy" ate their deserts. "Awhhh, awwhmmm, you'rah, nahhht gonna eat that, ahhhmmm, ehhmmm, brownie, ahhh you?"

[maica]

They govern based on soundbites fed to them by the media. It's deplorable.


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Remember how utterly shocked the media commentators were when President Bush said that he did not get his news from the papers. To them, that statement was proof that he had an empty head.

[snugs]

Off to have dinner now - if our paths do not cross before Happy Christmas and best wishes for a great new year to all

Eleanor