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Have [Canadian] Evangelicals Accomplished Nothing? (Christian Awakening In Canada Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 12/09/2006 | Ted Byfield

Posted on 12/08/2006 10:09:52 PM PST by goldstategop

Canada's Christians have been trounced and their venture into the sacrosanct precinct of secular politics has proved a singular failure, brayed the heathen last week, after the House of Commons endorsed gay marriage by a much bigger majority than when it approved of it last year. The heathen in this case was a senior columnist in the super-secularist Globe and Mail, who wrote in undisguised exaltation:

"Thoughtful evangelical Christians must [now] ask themselves some hard questions, such as: 'Isn't it about time we admit we've failed? That, both here and in the United States, our efforts to influence the political agenda have achieved virtually nothing?

"'That we've wasted enormous amounts of money and time electing politicians who have betrayed us, when we could and should have been bringing Good News to the world and offering succor to those in distress?'

"For faith-based politics is not growing in influence. ... Nothing has been achieved; the movement has generated no popular support. A fringe it was born; a fringe it remains. Every dollar raised to fight same-sex marriage was a dollar wasted; every breath spent opposing it was a wasted breath."

Likewise, in the U.S., he said, "Did they get the constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage or permitting school prayer? No. Did they make progress in banning abortion? Nothing substantive.

"The evangelical church has lost its way. ... They have struggled and failed to impose a Bible-based agenda on Congress and Parliament. ... Christ would not have been on Parliament Hill yesterday. He would have been with the lost and poor."

The author is columnist John Ibbitson. Whether he should be called "the heathen" the reader can decide. Journalists addressing religious questions fiercely object if you ask them their own religion. The possibility that their own view of God – whether there is one, and whether we could know it if there were – might affect what they write they consider outrageous.

One obvious thing, however, is that Mr. Ibbitson is not Christian. If he were, he would know that Jesus was very much involved in the political controversies of his day. He lived in a theocracy, operating under the aegis of Imperial Rome. Its parliament was the Sanhedrin, and its political parties were the Sadducees who were in power, the Pharisees who were in opposition, and the Herodians who supported the Roman authority. The issues of the day were wholly theological since all the laws of the Jews were religious laws.

Jesus, as it happens, offended all three parties in many ways, until the high priest, as leader of the Sanhedrin, put him under oath and demanded that he declare who he was. When Jesus replied with the unmentionable name of God, he was sentenced to death on a charge of blasphemy. To suggest that he stayed out of politics is, therefore, preposterous. On current Canadian politics, Mr. Ibbitson is often very sound. On Christianity, he is clueless.

But he is wrong in another way. Certainly, we lost a battle on gay marriage, and while I wouldn't agree that we've got nowhere on abortion, we're admittedly a long way from winning. But what does he expect? We are at best only 20 percent of the Canadian population.

However, in saying that all our efforts have achieved nothing, he is very wrong indeed. Notice his interesting error. To him, the resistance to abortion and legally sanctified sodomy is all coming from "evangelicals." How little he knows of it. Over the last 25 or so years, I have addressed probably a hundred pro-life meetings. The singular most striking fact of them all is the presence of Catholics, evangelicals and Protestants of many denominations working joyfully together. At most meetings, about half those present are Catholics. After 400 years of conflict, we are at last being drawn into a unity.

I once saw this movingly demonstrated at a pro-life meeting in the Immaculate Conception Church in Kelowna, B.C. I had made the observation that it is the habit of God to bring good out of evil. "Tell me," said one questionnaire, "a single good thing that has emerged from the abortion holocaust." So I asked: "Would the Protestants in this room please stand up." About half the crowd arose. "Now tell me," I said, "can you imagine, say 25 years ago, attending a dinner at something called Immaculate Church and feeling at home?" The crowd broke into cheers. They embraced each other. Some wept.

The heathen don't know it, of course. But something is definitely being accomplished.


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: canada; canadianparliament; catholics; christianawakening; christians; evangelical; evangelicals; homosexualagenda; paganleft; prolife; protestants; samesexmarriage; socialconservatives; tedbyfield; traditionalvalues; worldnetdaily
The bad news this week was Canada's Parliament reaffirmed gay marriage. The good news is it has ignited a Christian awakening in Canada. Christians are coming together across denominational lines to fight for traditional values. True, they lost a battle badly. But the war to reclaim Canada's soul from the grip of its pagan Left has only begun.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

1 posted on 12/08/2006 10:09:54 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

As long as the left wins, Satan wins.


2 posted on 12/08/2006 10:19:20 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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They pushed too far. In their arrogance, they'll push even further. People can take only so much of the crap they're spewing upon society.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 12/08/2006 10:20:50 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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And the best news is God will have the last Word and final say.

Let's turn now to the Book of Revelations and see how it all turns out in the end...

Rejoice and be glad, Canadian Christians! Righteousness will prevail and will be the rule forever and ever!


4 posted on 12/08/2006 10:20:58 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar
Christians who agree on nothing theologically are coming together to battle the godless heathens. Its a heart-warming development.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

5 posted on 12/08/2006 10:22:34 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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It's sickening to see the 2-pronged attack by Satan on our societies, one prong being the libertine anti-God left, and the other, the evil Mohammaden political death cult.


6 posted on 12/08/2006 10:24:14 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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They both hate the righteous.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

7 posted on 12/08/2006 10:25:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Jesus Himself declared His followers would be persecuted, even until His second coming. So actually we can expect governments and societies to reject His teachings and His followers.


As for coming together, yes, I'm glad to see so many take a stand against abortion, gay "marriage," and other wrongs.


8 posted on 12/08/2006 10:29:23 PM PST by Cedar
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Christianity has NEVER been 'asleep' in Canada!

What has failed in Canada is EVANGELICAL PROTESTANTISM trying to impose US style political activism. Canada is not a breeding ground for evangelicalism because it has retained a strong tradition of the mainstream organized Christian churches particularly the Roman Catholic...that could hardly be otherwise in a country including French Quebec, but even outside Quebec [where for example in Ontario we have a publicly-funded Catholic 'separate school' system alternative to the public school system so spectacularly a failure in the US] Canadians continue our historical respect for Christian religious institutions in this country.

What we also respect - perhaps precisely because our mainstream Christian churches are strong - is a SECULAR government system that resists evangelical Christian religious intrusion just as the French are now resisting Muslim religious intrusions against their secular political culture - and it is that which is the reason for Canadian evangelicals political failures not the 'pagan Left'.

Catholics and Anglicans and United etc WILL come together to fight for tradional values in Canada - but will not be 'led' by American-style evangelicals.


9 posted on 12/09/2006 5:30:50 AM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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William Wilberforce fought for over 20 years to end the slave trade, and 45 years to end slavery, in England. When he started, he was mocked and laughed at because slave traders were politically and financially powerful, yet Wilberforce had a Power that transcended them all-the power of God. The Lord is patient, but His will will always be done.

Just like this loss....the poor editorialist (and I say "poor" because he doesn't know what he's up against) thinks his side won an impressive victory. The Evangelicals should always remember that God's time is not their time.


10 posted on 12/09/2006 7:23:51 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: goldstategop

2 Chronicles 7:14 is the answer, for Canada and the USA:

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.


11 posted on 12/09/2006 8:24:32 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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155. That is the magic number of good, decent candidates that will stand up to the values. To get safely above that, we need to dump the Red Tories, convince those 13 courageous Liberals to form their own rump caucus or cross the floor and to ensure that good men and women are running in all 308 ridings from coast to coast.


12 posted on 12/09/2006 8:41:37 AM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: goldstategop

The individual quoted in the article is trying to feed defeatism amongst evangelicals; the degree to which he fails is the degree to which he will lose.


13 posted on 12/09/2006 7:34:03 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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