Posted on 12/05/2006 9:48:36 AM PST by rob83
well, go figure. our club is in trouble with the school for stepping on the flags of Hezbollah and Hamas. The student governing board, who will try us, has passed a resolution condemning our actions... fair?
Our Webpage -- we will try to post pics asap.
the event:
another article: http://xpress.sfsu.edu/archives/news/007465.html ------------------------------------
ASI Passes Resolution Against Flag Stomping Organization says College Republicans were in the wrong by Jason Shuffler, staff writer November 28, 2006 08:48 PM
Preceding an ongoing investigation into SF State College Republican behavior, the Associated Students board unanimously adopted a resolution condemning the student group for purposely stomping on flags containing the Arabic symbol for God.
“Associated Students, Inc. deems the College Republicans’ actions as contrary to university values and feel they should be held accountable by the university for their actions,” the resolution says.
The Nov. 15 resolution comes on the heels of several student and student organization complaints at board meetings and the Office of Student Programs and Leadership Development, or OSPLD, which has also sparked a separate investigation and assembly of a special panel to decide if the College Republicans did indeed violate the university’s conduct rules.
The resolution cited a rule outlined in the university’s Strategic Plan saying, “SFSU facilitates teaching, learning and work experiences among students, faculty and staff that promote equity and social justice within a respectful and safe environment.”
Moreover, the resolution sets the stage for the College Republicans possibly losing official student group status and or ASi funding.
Amid heavy campus police presence at an Oct. 17 anti-terrorism rally in Malcolm X Plaza, some members of the crowd turned angry when the College Republicans stepped on homemade Hezbollah and Hamas flags, though the student group claims they were not initially aware the flags contained the Arabic symbol for God.
After that, the College Republican-organized rally dissolved into a heated shouting match between the group and a mix of students, including some Muslim students, eventually resulting in formal complaints to student representatives.
‘They were voicing their concerns that this event was even allowed. They were offended,” said Kimberly Castillo, board member and chair of University Affairs, the committee that drafted the resolution. “We felt it our duty to respond.”
Administrators have been criticized for even allowing the rally to take place.
“The actions on the part of the College Republicans amount to no more than hateful religious intolerance, and constitutes an attempt to defy policies outlined and defined by San Francisco State University’s values,” the resolution says. “Members… pre-mediated the stomping of the flags knowing it would offend some people and possibly incite violence.”
ASi board members Joicy Serrano and Faith Cushenberry have been appointed to the Student Organization Hearing Panel, which will convene when the OSPLD investigation concludes.
Joey Greenwell, director of the OSPLD, declined to comment and did not give a time frame when it might be finished, saying all matters of the investigation are confidential.
The College Republicans said they will take legal action against the university if sanctions are imposed upon them, citing their First Amendment right to freedom of speech.
Though ASi has taken a public stance denouncing the group before the investigation is over, Castillo said so far the resolution is the “facts speaking for themselves” not necessarily a license to take action against the College Republicans.
“We still want to wait for due process,” Castillo said.
Even so, the resolution says if the SOHP finds the College Republicans did violate University policies and purposely engaged in hateful speech they “will suspend any further funding of this organization’s programming.”
ps - the reason we did this was because of the wide-spread acceptance of hezbollah and hamas on our campus. this is unacceptable!!!
No doubt these same people would say nothing if students were stepping on/urinating on/burning either a U.S. flag or a Bible...
And yet the college wouldn't even blink if someone burned the American flag... pathetic.
Have you talked to FIRE yet?
I shudder to think if I was this stupid when I was an 'enlightened' college student. Thank God I got out of there, received my degree, grew up, and got a job.
Their idiot resolution says nothing about defecating on terrorist symbols. It could be construed as Shi'ite..
The Activism sidebar is reserved for news and Activism of the FR Chapters. Not this.
Thanks,
AM
We are in contact with legal help -- the California College Republicans have agreed to help us legally.
If we lose this battle, we lose our club... It really pisses me off, especially this resolution they passed because now we're really being judged in a kangaroo court... but these people who run this school are sick. They're not liberals, because even the liberal understands freedom of speech...
While you're supposed to be respectful of the US flag, you can retire it by properly burning it.
What's ironic here is that this must mean the Moslems can NEVER "retire" any of their flags in any possible manner, because it has the ALLAH symbol on it!
Is there a pile of worn-out faded ragged cloth somewhere in the Mid East?
Is there any film or pics of students stomping on the US flag you could use? I hate liberals. College liberals are the worse because they know nothing. Good luck!
Gee, nothing prejudicial here.
For starters, it's SF College, an institution of "higher learning" in one of the most anti-American, leftist parts of the country.
Then, at an institution of "higher learning" which, doubtless, sanctions the burning and desecration of the American flag as a legitimate means of protesting Bush, the government, Republicans, air, Tuesday, and plaid socks, you proceed to "descrate" flags representative of those who want to kill us, and you expect fairness.
I'd ask what you had been smoking, but it is California, after all.
While I support your efforts and your symbolism, you need to take your protests out of the sewer of California to a more reasonable (and reasoned) part of the country. You would likely be received better in Iowa.
But, that's just my opinion.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"They were offended"
Hahahaha.... what a bunch of Nazi jackasses. Send all these "Muslims" back to where they came from.
I know true "liberals" who defend our actions and our freedom of speech (although it makes them have an ulcer to defend our actions).
The ones on my campus are socialists and little Lenins -- they want nothing to do with our Constitution nor our Country.
Do as you like, What goes around, comes around. There's nothing sweeter than hearing a Commie pig squeal...
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