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Will Baker report just be appeasement?
Hernando Today ^ | Dec 4, 2006 | DOUG PATTON

Posted on 12/04/2006 6:29:57 PM PST by jdm

Radio talk show host Glenn Beck insists that it is 1938 all over again, with North Korean despot Kim Jung Il playing the role of the tyrants of Japan, and Iranian fanatic Mahmoud Ahmadinejad standing in for the anti-Semitic Nazis who ran amuck across Europe. The comparison is not all that outrageous.

One of the most eerie aspects of that comparison is the way in which we are dealing with these dictators, especially Ahmadinejad. Granted, there has been a lot of bluster coming out of the White House about “staying the course” in the Middle East until a democratic beachhead can be established in Iraq. However, the sneak previews leaking out of the soon to be released recommendations of the Iraq study commission, headed by former Secretary of State James Baker and former U.S. Rep. Lee Hamilton, seem hauntingly similar to another notorious bit of historical appeasement by former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain.

In 1938, Chamberlain, along with French Prime Minister Edouard Daladier and Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, signed the Munich Agreement with Adolf Hitler. This gave the fuehrer the permission he sought from his European neighbors to invade the Sudetenland, a part of Czechoslovakia that had been a part of Germany until the early 1800s, thus setting in motion the events that would soon lead to the outright invasion of the rest of the country by the Nazis.

Sound familiar? Remember Saddam Hussein’s claim that Kuwait belonged to Iraq? Is there a Muslim country in the Middle East that does not support Palestinian claims to the tiny sliver of land occupied by the Israelis? And does any serious person doubt for a moment that forces loyal to Ahmadinejad and Bashar al-Assad of Syria, both of whom are supporters of worldwide terror, will take over Iraq if American forces withdraw?

Based on preliminary reports, the Baker-Hamilton commission is poised to recommend that the U.S. should “talk” to the leaders of Syria and Iran, just as Chamberlain and his colleagues “talked” to Hitler in September of that fateful year. They also appear to be prepared to recommend a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. Therefore, the commission should heretofore be known as the “Baker-Hamilton-Chamberlain Commission,” or BHCC for short, since by advising the White House to “talk” to the despots in Syria and Iran, and by signaling to our sworn enemies that we are prepared to leave Iraq defenseless, BHCC is placing the young democracy in the same position in which Czechoslovakia found itself in 1938.

The recommendations of BHCC probably will be popular with the American people. The British loved the Munich Agreement until Hitler started dropping bombs on them. The U.S. news media will hail BHCC as the only sensible solution to what they see as an American quagmire in Iraq. What might BHCC recommend if they were to “study” the problem of dealing with Kim Jung Il? Should we “talk” to him as well? Perhaps we should offer him South Korea on a silver platter.

Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil. Chamberlain learned that fact the hard way. Evil, by definition, cannot be appeased. It must be defeated. The comparisons to 1938 are obvious, but the stakes are now much higher. After all, Hitler and Tojo were evil, but they were at least rational. One could even make that same claim about Kim, but not Ahmadinejad. A nuclear Iran has implications we have never faced before.

The erroneous conclusion drawn from the results of the recent midterm election by those inside the Beltway is that Americans want to cut and run from Iraq. I believe the American people would support expanding the war if the goal was to win it, not just in Iraq but worldwide. After all, have we not been told that this is the central front in the wider war on terror?

Unfortunately, winning has not been the goal, and as long as surrender is the only option on the table, we are all in danger from those who would be emboldened by our cowardice. The American people deserve better. All those brave Iraqis proudly displaying their purple fingers after voting in a free election for the very first time deserve better. And our troops certainly deserve better.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; appeasement; geopolitics; iran; middleeast
Don't agree with all of the author's points, but several make perfect sense.
1 posted on 12/04/2006 6:30:00 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

Appeasement from Baker, the man who sold out the Kurds when they rebelled against Saddam. If we sell out, it means that the enemies of the USA get rewarded and the friends get screwed! Typical James Baker cynicism. Part of the reason that Clinton defeated Bush the Father, was that he made a point of Bush's downplaying of the Tiannemen Square massacre and seemed sincere about it.


2 posted on 12/04/2006 6:33:26 PM PST by juliej
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To: Petronski

This one might be up your alley, not sure.


3 posted on 12/04/2006 6:44:25 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm
Talking to Syria means telling the tail it wags the dog. Assad needs to be overthrown; we've talked enough with him. It's time to destroy his ability to aid Iraqi "insurgents," Hizbollah, and his paid assassins in Lebanon. No more talks. No more hints of appeasement. Assad is Fedo Coreleone without the tailor.
4 posted on 12/04/2006 6:46:32 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Iraq: the next country Liberals want to abandon just before Israel.)
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To: jdm
I think it hits on all cylinders. The only difference being the timetable. I spent years in the Middle East before the last Gulf War. These are a people and culture that you don't turn your back on.

We've just ushered in a fascist victory in the democrats' win in November. They will open our southern borders at the same time they do away with "intrusive surveillance" against the enemy. The Moslems won't fail to wait until our own homegrown fascist democrats pacify us. The Moslems strike at the first chance they get. They won't bother doing the soul searching that has hamstrung the US.
5 posted on 12/04/2006 6:48:53 PM PST by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: samm1148

Add to that, look at the way the Donks spit on our servicemen and women. Rangel, Kerry, etc. They make me sick.


6 posted on 12/04/2006 6:56:32 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: jdm

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. Appeasement now will cost many more American lives in the future.


7 posted on 12/04/2006 7:14:40 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: jdm
"They also appear to be prepared to recommend a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq."

I get so sick of hearing this. Wasn't our plan all along to withdraw when it was done? Had something changed? Had we claimed Iraq as sovereign U.S. territory?
8 posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:10 PM PST by JSteff
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To: JSteff

"appeasement"?

Hardly, do we stay this course or chart a new one? Iraq has reached the mentally debilitating point.

We cannot simply bomb them into the stone age when a roadside IED explodes, and the Iraqi's as of yet don't control there own borders or population.

We are 400 billion dollars into this war, how much more should we spend to please Mr. Beck? It is my sincere opinion that this effort has been botched because it has been clouded by ideology, not military necessity.

There were some 500,000 soldiers involved in dislodging Saddam from Kuwait, and now we are occupying Iraq with a 140,000?


9 posted on 12/04/2006 8:21:31 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: juliej

I'm worried about what is going to happen with Iraq after these last elections. If we leave Iraq too soon the situation will explode and we will be left with a worse situation in terms of our security and the security of the region than Iraq was under Saddam. We absolutly have to finish the mission. Not doing so will be a tremendous failure and will mean that we have wasted 3000 lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.


10 posted on 12/04/2006 9:56:21 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: jdm


None of us will be surprised when the Baker report is rehash liberal foreign policy. So get ready...


11 posted on 12/04/2006 10:37:21 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: SmoothTalker

The jihadists know that if they ratchet up the violence, the Demo party and people such as Chuck Hagle will say cut and run. James Baker was singularly unconcerned when Saddam murdered the Kurds.


12 posted on 12/05/2006 5:26:50 AM PST by juliej
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