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The Mormon who might just go all the way
The Sunday Times ^ | November 26, 2006 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 11/26/2006 7:26:46 AM PST by Condor 63

The elections this month were a blow to the religious right in America. The most prominent advocate of their policies of banning all abortion, all legal recognition of gay couples, and embryonic stem cell research was Rick Santorum, a senator for Pennsylvania. He was the third-ranking Republican in the Senate, a rising star of the theocratic right, and still lost by a staggering 18 points. The other champion of the religious right, Senator George Allen, also lost his race in Virginia, after he blurted out a racist comment at a campaign stop. Senator Sam Brownback from Kansas remains an option, but his declaration that he has but one constituent — God Almighty — makes him a long shot, even for the lunatic fringe.

And so the religious right didn’t just lose an election they lost all their candidates for 2008 as well.

Politics, of course, abhors a vacuum and with so many primary voters without a candidate a new favourite has emerged. Mitt Romney is the Republican governor of Massachusetts, one of the most liberal states in the nation.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cult; electionpresident; mittromney; pervertcolumnist; pervertperverts; perverts; pervertspervert; reaganesque; romney
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1 posted on 11/26/2006 7:26:48 AM PST by Condor 63
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2 posted on 11/26/2006 7:28:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Condor 63

"The Mormon"?????


Bigots.


3 posted on 11/26/2006 7:29:15 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: Condor 63
So long as he is a Reagan Conservative, he could go all the way.

NO MORE RINO'S.

4 posted on 11/26/2006 7:32:30 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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IBTAMB

(in before the anti-mormon bigots)

5 posted on 11/26/2006 7:44:08 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Condor 63

With borders becoming virtual, and with US politics becoming global so that foreign influences, lobby's and even foreign nationals are driving our election candidates, should it be no surprise that Christan's will be pushed out of government, considering also that the world total is only 32 percent Christians, which is not a majority to win control in the future?

But not to worry, the remaining 68% , they can only vote to render unto Cesar what is Cesar's and therefore what belongs to God cannot be taken away anyhow.


6 posted on 11/26/2006 7:45:27 AM PST by seastay
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With borders becoming virtual

The vast majority of border crossers are Roman Catholic Christians.

7 posted on 11/26/2006 7:51:36 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: Condor 63

not gonna happen. too plastic, too fabricated, too much of a breck girl on steroids. imho.


8 posted on 11/26/2006 7:54:26 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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The vast majority of border crossers are Roman Catholic Christians.

Which is why it is probably one of the best things to happen to this country since the revolution.

9 posted on 11/26/2006 7:55:50 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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To: Condor 63
Interesting article from the queen of gay conservatism (fiscal, not social), Andrew Sullivan.

Sullivan, of course, despises conservative Christians and never misses an opportunity to insult and slam them. Here, he outlines Romney's fiscal good sense, leadership ability, and his social conservatism (anti-gay marriage etc). Essentially he comes to the conclusion that Romney offers in one tidy package everything that evangelical Christian conservatives could ever hope for. But there's one problem.

Romney is Mormon.

Sullivan gloats over the fact that evangelical Christians supposedly will not support the one Republican candidate that most perfectly agrees with their socially conservative agenda.

Bceause of evangelical Christian "bigotry" he thinks Romney would lose, unless the Democrats were to nominate Hillary Clinton to run against Romney. Then he apparently believes that Hillary would lose.

I tend to agree with Sullivan on this concluding point. But I think Hillary would lose because a sufficient number of evangelical Christians would turn out to vote for a social conservative over a social liberal.

10 posted on 11/26/2006 7:57:09 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Condor 63

I don't get the mormon thing. We've already had a quaker for President. The problem with Mitt is he's to liberal to win the primaries unless the Dems cross over to nominate him, and they won't.

I listened to Boehner for a while. It took about 2 minutes to realize that he might be the man. John Boehner and JC Watts in 08! OK... It's a little early, but he should get in the mix.


11 posted on 11/26/2006 7:58:55 AM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: the invisib1e hand

You're going to probably need some flame proof undies.


12 posted on 11/26/2006 8:00:40 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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The media would love to get Romney the nomination; then they'd clobber him with Mormonism.

Remember: the media has one goal, elect Hillary.


13 posted on 11/26/2006 8:00:57 AM PST by kjo
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To: Condor 63

well I'm a bit away from the action but I have not seen the "religious right" acting like they've been dealt a "blow".

what's the ground swell out there?

I'm seeing that both the Dems and the jihadists are smarter than we are at this point.

The DEMS run conservative candidates and win, now the crazy left is in control of legislative committees.

Jihadists play the west's Political Correctness against us and make us look like fools.

At least we have W at the helm but if we don't do something fairly quick I see very bad things in the horizon.

someone needs to fight through the craziness of the last 5 years and tell everyone our PC days are over, unless you want to see the bad guys (Dems first, jihadists right behind) take over the world.

it's just that close.


14 posted on 11/26/2006 8:05:38 AM PST by IOWAfan (We depress easily thinking about Iowa Football, but are packing for the Alamo Bowl.)
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The media would love to get Romney the nomination

First they were attempting to get McNuts the nomination, then Rudy, and now it's the Romney gambit.

Your recognition of their goal is correct, elect Comrade Hillary.

15 posted on 11/26/2006 8:07:21 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: Poser
We've already had a quaker for President.

Make that two. Along with Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon was also a quaker.

16 posted on 11/26/2006 8:08:56 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: ASA Vet

How is the media trying to get Romney the nomination?


17 posted on 11/26/2006 8:09:42 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
Interesting article from the queen of gay conservatism (fiscal, not social), Andrew Sullivan.

At this point I should probably fess up and admit I don't hold Sullivan in as high esteem as some conservatives do. Personally, I think he is a two-faced weasel. The article above is a shining example of why I think it.

Sez Sullivan:

Personally, I have no interest in someone’s private faith in his or her pursuit of public office. Romney, to my mind, should be judged on his public record.

Guess what Andy? I don't believe a word of that.

Sez Sullivan:

The trouble is: this is not what the religious right has come to expect in a leader. They look for a religious figure in a political leader, “one of them”.

Uhhh...#1 there is nothing wrong with that. #2 that is nothing different than any voter does. Who votes for anyone that doesn't share the majority of their own views except for complete and total idiots (and yes there are some of those voting.)

Sez Sullivan:

When a political party has become a religious organisation, as the Republicans have under Bush and Rove, it’s hard to nominate a heretic as leader. Mormons insist they are Christians but not many other Christians easily agree.

My BS meter pegged with that one......

18 posted on 11/26/2006 8:10:31 AM PST by Condor 63
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To: Condor 63
It is hard to get a read on Sullivan here. He seems to be saying that it is OK if Romney holds the views of a Christian evangelical as long as Romney is not an evangelical himself. (I guess Sullivan despises conservatives of traditional faith.)

Furthermore, all of the Secular Progressives who think that conservative evangelicals won't vote for Romney because he is not a Christian don't really understand evangelicals at all. They are simply clueless. They might as well try to explain messianic types in the OT.

19 posted on 11/26/2006 8:11:00 AM PST by Zechariah11
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To: ASA Vet
You're going to probably need some flame proof undies.

I shudder to think that "republicans" are that desperate. and then they'll complain about rinos. it takes one to elect one.

20 posted on 11/26/2006 8:11:19 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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