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To: Incorrigible
I don't like threads like this. We are not supposed to brag or be full of ourselves for giving money to charity especially laughing at those who don't (please explain what is conservative or Christian about that). I don't know why they have to write a book on the subject. This is a horrible post. I believe arrogance is not a very good thing. We should just give more money to charity including myself. This is weird. My parents always said that you should do things because you want to not to receive praise. I believe we should think about that for a while.
32 posted on 11/16/2006 11:49:56 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
"I don't like threads like this. We are not supposed to brag or be full of ourselves for giving money to charity especially laughing at those who don't (please explain what is conservative or Christian about that)."

This is a political website. The leftists make false claims about conservatives. They're embodied in the claim that conservatives support starving children. Liberals and the left use other people's money and call it charity. Conservatives use their own.

The "we" here is conservatives. No one in particular is bragging about, or even mentioning their charitable activities. The theme is charity vs forced redistribution scheme, and this study is part of the fight between those 2 activities. Those promoting forced redistribution say that conservatives are not charitable. This study shows they, the leftists are mistaken, or lying.

38 posted on 11/16/2006 12:02:29 PM PST by spunkets
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To: napscoordinator
I don't like threads like this. We are not supposed to brag or be full of ourselves for giving money to charity especially laughing at those who don't (please explain what is conservative or Christian about that). I don't know why they have to write a book on the subject. This is a horrible post. I believe arrogance is not a very good thing. We should just give more money to charity including myself. This is weird. My parents always said that you should do things because you want to not to receive praise. I believe we should think about that for a while.

I understand your point about anonymous charitable giving but nobody is bragging here.  This is an economist who studies human economic behavior outside of work.  He is not looking to praise conservatives, but simply to document their charitable behavior.

Also, no one is laughing at those that don't.  However, I think it's valid to point out that those complaining about the speck in my eye ignore the log in their own.

No-one is looking for praise for their individual acts of charity but I think, as a group, we can be proud that denizens of FReerepublic are among the most generous.

 

39 posted on 11/16/2006 12:06:25 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: napscoordinator
Yet we must consider the implications of the progressive experiment: While it is true that causing the government to seize assets from one to give them to another can be derided as a legalized form of theft––just as lottos can be derided as promoting the get rich quick mentality––the true effects of a pursuit of "social justice" are far more perverse.

Most tellingly, it explicitly promotes a mentality of entitlement that robs the "poor" of even their capacity to be thankful. If you are getting your "due" then why should you be thankful? And when is "getting you due" ever enough is someone has more? In truth, the Progressive experiment rises and falls politically on its ability to inspire envy.

Or put another way: Marx was a liar who knew perfectly well that social theory would be the most suitable opiate of the masses ... for by means of it their passions could be mobilized without limitations raised by morality or theology.

What does faith really have to compare to the allure of social theory? The truth? People hate the truth because the truth does more than set them free: it exposes them to their naked sin and wickedness if they are not deluded. People want to feel good about themselves so they believe anything that keeps them from having to face truth, either about God or themselves.

To best understand the collapse of western civilization and why liberality is not a strong trait among those we incorrectly deem to be liberals one need only see how this bait-and-switch––whereby social justice to groups and entities has displaced justice to Persons––has replaced a core set of values that promotes literal self government (i.e. control of your self and your appetites in accordance to informed conscience) with a core set of values that elevates self and self expression.

We have replaced self governance (of which true charity is an expression) with relying on elected and appointed officials to manage our affairs FOR us. Any wonder why our "poor" are just as surly and greedy as our rich ever were?
42 posted on 11/16/2006 12:24:56 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: napscoordinator
I am proud that I (we) are givers....both in time and money....

I know people that haven't a clue...not a single clue....what volunteer work is all about nor what giving to charity is about....

My educated guess is that freepers gave more money , faster, than the entire Moveon.org group.. to the Tsunami, the 9/11 tragedies and to Katrina......IMO anyway....

freepers are great supporters and great givers.....they're prayful.....

I AM NOT ONE BIT SORRY FOR SAYING THAT.

I do have to say that with my siblings, some of who are raging libs, we all have this giving and volunteering attitude....it comes from Catholic school where no matter how poor you were, you always gave a dime or so to the "missions" wherever they were......

61 posted on 11/17/2006 12:24:11 AM PST by cherry
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To: napscoordinator

Conservatives need to fight back. Turning the other cheek doesn't always work. The liberals that I know don't give an inch.


72 posted on 11/17/2006 7:53:18 PM PST by StACase
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