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Airbus to decide on future of troubled A350
Agence France-Presse ^ | November 15, 2006

Posted on 11/14/2006 1:16:17 PM PST by Zakeet

IRBUS would decide before the end of the month on whether to go ahead with its A350 jetliner, with the launch dependent on the success of a restructure, chief executive Louis Gallois said today.

The A350, a long-haul mid-sized plane, has been drawn up by Airbus as a competitor for Boeing's popular 787 Dreamliner and 777 long-haul planes, but its development costs have been estimated at $US10 billion-$US12 billion ($13bn-$16bn).

Mr Gallois said the A350 program depended on implementation of a restructuring plan aimed at slashing production costs, cutting jobs and streamlining suppliers to the Toulouse-based group.

"We will not launch the A350 without Power 8,'' Mr Gallois said, referring to the name of a restructuring plan announced by Airbus at the beginning of October

"We cannot launch a new program if we are not sure of being in a competitive situation,'' he said.

Speaking at a round table attended by subcontractors of the group and French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, Mr Gallois said that a decision on the A350 would be made before the end of November.

The Power 8 restructuring plan is a reponse by Airbus to delays to its superjumbo A380 project, which is running two years behind schedule because of costly production problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: a350; airbus; airbust
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1 posted on 11/14/2006 1:16:20 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Obligatory picture of the Official Airbus Repair Kit

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2 posted on 11/14/2006 1:21:19 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Zakeet; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...

This is not a laughing matter.

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


3 posted on 11/14/2006 1:24:06 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Zakeet

Oh, I see... It's Australian. I did not think that a European media outlet would use the term "troubled."


4 posted on 11/14/2006 1:26:29 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: TommyDale

You forgot to include a rubber band or two and a paper clip.


5 posted on 11/14/2006 1:28:49 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Paleo Conservative

I'm just an occasional flier but one of the most uncomfortable trips I ever took was on an Airbus plane.

TAP from Newark to Lisbon. It was just awful !

The best was on a Boeing 777--- BA-Boston to London.


6 posted on 11/14/2006 1:32:36 PM PST by Mears
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To: Zakeet

I got their power 8.


7 posted on 11/14/2006 1:36:53 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: Zakeet

It would make a hell of a lawn ornament.


8 posted on 11/14/2006 1:45:12 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Zakeet

I was flipping channels a week or two when I came across a show on the Airbus. It must have been a year or two old as it was all praise on how well things were working out with parts being built all over Europe.

Anyway, this was on the very first one to be completed, and they were showing one of the last parts to be put on the plane. It was somewhere on top near the tail. I have no idea what it was for, but it looked like a small intrument package. There was a cable connection that had to be made once it was to be inserted.

To the embarrassment of the engineer/technician/factory worker, the connection was about two inches too short.

They could not install that last piece. It was not clear how they resolved that issue, but I was thinking to myself, I sometimes have problem when I build things myself, but if my bookcase falls apart no big whoops.

I would think these things would be engineered to the point where everything fit, the first time.


9 posted on 11/14/2006 1:54:26 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Zakeet

We will not launch the A350 without Power 8

More please, s'more government subsidies, please...


10 posted on 11/14/2006 2:02:21 PM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: Zakeet
Airbus plans to outsource $3.5 bln of new work

LONDON (Reuters) - Airbus plans to outsource an estimated $3.5 billion worth of work on its new mid-sized jet, dubbed A350XWB, in a bid to cut development costs for EADS, its Franco-German parent, the Financial Times said on Tuesday.

Unnamed senior executives at the aircraft maker told the newspaper that Airbus hoped to raise the proportion of outsourcing on the project to near 50 percent from 30 percent.

EADS, the European aerospace group, has estimated that the A350XWB would cost $12 billion or more to develop and was expected to decide in the coming weeks whether to continue with the project, according to the FT.

A comment from Airbus was not immediately available.

The future of Airbus has been clouded by the announcement of costly delays to its flagship A380 superjumbo program and doubts about whether it can launch the A350XWB.
11 posted on 11/14/2006 2:02:36 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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Airbus plans to outsource an estimated $3.5 billion worth of work on its new mid-sized jet

that doesn't make sense because yugobus is not in the plane building bidness but in the job providing bidness for
the krauts and the frogs.


12 posted on 11/14/2006 2:05:31 PM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: Zakeet

Power 8 will have soo much government interference, it will never be implemented successfully. The french are going to turn around and blackmail Germany, Spain, and UK into giving them the billions in launch subsides they will need to fund the A350 development.

They simply cannot do the A350 project. I would be completely surrending the widebody commercial airplane market to Boeing for 20+ years. Their pride would never allow it, even if the project ends up just like the A380 and never is profitable.


13 posted on 11/14/2006 2:14:11 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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"We cannot launch a new program if we are not sure of being in a competitive situation,'' he said.

Hmmm, that didn't seem to slow their decision re. the A380.

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14 posted on 11/14/2006 2:18:23 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Yo-Yo

I smell B.S.

They are only saying this so they won't get their butts tossed infront of the WTO. The Euro governments will never allow all these job cuts and Airbust will find back channel ways to get the billions in subsides they will need to fund the A350.


15 posted on 11/14/2006 2:19:15 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Zakeet

"AIRBUS would decide before the end of the month on whether to go ahead with its A350 jetliner, with the launch dependent on the success of a restructure, chief executive Louis Gallois said today."

This has to be a bunch of baloney. I really can't see how Airbus competes with Boeing in significant market segments without the A350.

Could Airbus really forgo the A350 and not be relegated to a tier below Boeing for a decade or more?


16 posted on 11/14/2006 2:32:33 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

WTO! Speak of the devil...

"US to make its case in Airbus-Boeing WTO dispute on Wednesday"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061113/bs_afp/euusaerospacetrade_061113190300


17 posted on 11/14/2006 2:49:55 PM PST by Righty_McRight
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To: sitetest

If Airbus needs to drop a product, it should be the albatross A-380. This is a plane with NO profit potential whatsoever, and keep the A-350, which at least has a possibility for viability in the future.

The pain would be immense, but the 350 at least has the potential to eventually make money - maybe.

if Boeing can increase the production rate on the 787 as they ramp up into volume production, I don't see how Airbus can effectively compete with the 350 either, but at least they will have a saleable product. Eventually.


18 posted on 11/14/2006 2:54:33 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Paleo Conservative

LMAO!


19 posted on 11/14/2006 3:29:11 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just one day without polls would be nice.)
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To: Zakeet

When all else fails, copy the Americans!

Hey, I know - what if we got James Baker to head up the Power 8 effort?


20 posted on 11/14/2006 3:32:32 PM PST by Tenyaka (Buy American!)
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