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Gaston: No funds for illegal residents
The Charlotte Observer ^ | 11/10/06 | Amy Rainey and Franco Ordonez

Posted on 11/11/2006 5:59:21 AM PST by personalaccts

Gaston: No funds for illegal residents AMY RAINEY AND FRANCO ORDOÑEZ arainey@charlotteobserver.comfordonez@charlotteobserver.com Q&A: Ask questions on immigration Gaston County commissioners have directed county officials to stop funding programs for undocumented immigrants in what marks the Charlotte region's most aggressive measure against illegal immigration.

The resolution, passed Thursday by the all-Republican board, blames people living here illegally for a variety of social ills, and also orders county officials to limit their ability to live and work in the county.

Some officials charged with enacting the resolution say it would have little effect, but commissioner John Torbett, who introduced the measure, said it was necessary to protect taxpayers.

"Is it right for people that are not citizens of this country to receive tax dollars through services that have been paid for by people that are citizens of this country?" he said. "If we can determine that taxpayer dollars in Gaston County are going to provide services for illegal residents, then we need to stop as much of that as humanly possible."

Critics say the resolution only encourages hysteria over the immigration issue.

The resolution also directs county departments not to contract with companies that hire illegal immigrants, and it calls for a limit on the number of people who can live in rental homes.

Gaston County has joined a small group of local governments, such as those in Hazelton, Pa., and Valley Park, Mo., that have passed measures aimed at discouraging illegal immigrants from staying in their communities. Last year Mecklenburg commissioners defeated a proposal to deny some county services to illegal immigrants, and another measure that would have denied county contracts to employers found to have hired undocumented workers.

Such laws challenge Supreme Court precedents that say immigration law falls under federal authority.

"It's responding to a legitimate set of concerns and frustration, but the solutions are misguided," said Jeanne Butterfield executive director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association in Washington.

More than half of the estimated 600,000 Hispanics in the North Carolina are believed to be in the country illegally. According to 2005 Census Bureau figures, about 9,500 Hispanics live in Gaston County, which has a population of about 196,000.

The resolution cites the growing illegal immigration for contributing to overcrowded schools, highway deaths and increasing crime. It also says communities are impacted by illegal immigrants' "lack of social and personal health care standards."

Angeles Ortega-Moore, executive director of the Latin American Coalition in Charlotte, called the resolution insensitive and said it created an "us vs. them sentiment."

Ortega-Moore said the resolution fails to mention the billions of dollars that illegal immigrants contribute to the economy.

"Proposals like this are not serving any purpose other than creating a hysteria in our community and feeding into the fires of this hotly debated issue around immigration," she said.

Torbett said he didn't intend the language to be harsh, but to convey how serious illegal immigration is. Torbett said he did not know how much money is spent providing services to illegal immigrants in the county. He cited the hiring of additional bilingual employees as an example of services that should be funded through state and federal money, not county tax dollars.

This resolution will have a small impact on services offered through the county health department, said department director Colleen Bridger.

"That's (the commissioners') way of expressing their opinion, but it's going to have relatively little effect on the county bottom line," Bridger said.

Most of the health department's services are federally mandated and must be provided regardless of a person's immigration status, Bridger said. Additionally, she said the department is prohibited from asking people about their immigration status.

Dani Martinez-Moore of the N.C. Justice Center in Raleigh said most county services are already unavailable to illegal immigrants. Services like emergency medical care and public education are federally mandated.

"I think many people believe that undocumented immigrants are eligible for welfare cash benefits," she said. "And that is not true."

How the county will implement this resolution is not clear. Torbett said he plans to meet with department directors to identify areas where they are exceeding federally and state-mandated guidelines.

The resolution directs police officers to check immigration status, but providing patrol officers the equipment and access to check that status would have to be approved by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Sheriff Alan Cloninger said.

The resolution's lone dissenting vote came from commissioner Pearl Burris Floyd, who says she agreed with most of it but wanted to amend or delete two items. The commissioners rushed to vote on the resolution, Floyd said.

She said updating the minimum housing requirements to address how many people can live in a rental home could hurt legal residents with large or multigenerational families. Floyd also fears requiring police to check immigration status could lead to racial profiling, she said.

"I can just envision our Latino Americans or Hispanic Americans who are legal residents having to go through being questioned about their citizenship," she said. "To me, that's wrong."

Resolution Provisions

The resolution, which passed 5-1, directs county officials to:

• Stop funding the portion of local services that go to illegal immigrants.

• Stop nonmandated or federally and state-funded programs that serve illegal immigrants.

• Stop contracting with companies that employ illegal immigrants.

• Update minimum housing requirements to limit the number of people who can live in rental homes.

The resolution directs the Gaston County Sheriff's Office and Police Department to:


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
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It's not that we hate illegal immigrants but we can't afford it.
1 posted on 11/11/2006 5:59:23 AM PST by personalaccts
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To: personalaccts

Note: "small group of county govts"
the illegals will just go where its illegal friendly.
This is not solving the problem the government (Fed,State&
Local) is the problem the people in our governments are
useless.


2 posted on 11/11/2006 6:04:06 AM PST by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: personalaccts

it will all be for nothing if the 'elected' at the federal level make the illegals legal.


3 posted on 11/11/2006 6:09:33 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: personalaccts

Any 'hint' of lawsuits coming from the legals?


4 posted on 11/11/2006 6:11:33 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: personalaccts

The title you created had to be changed to the published title.

Please do not alter titles. Just use the original published title and help keep the number of duplicate threads to a minimum.

Thanks.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 6:12:32 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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Gaston County is a very conservative area of North Carolina where traditional family values reign supreme and there's a chruch on every corner -- and everybody goes to church. The arrival of illegals has thrown a wrench into this tranquility and people are fed up with it. This has traditionally been a very low crime area. But, thanks to illegals, crime is rising. And, here, as elsewhere, illegals are taking jobs from poor whites and blacks.


6 posted on 11/11/2006 6:16:03 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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the all-Republican board, blames people living here illegally for a variety of social ills

No... no bias here! LOL!!! I'm surprised that they didn't say "the EVIL all-Republican board of haters, blames..."

7 posted on 11/11/2006 6:17:24 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: personalaccts

My guess is that the Gaston County board will be "re-educated" by the National Socialist Confederation of the House and Senate (Democrat Majority). Hmmmm....via Federal funding for roads, buildings, facilities, schools, wherever Gaston County is lunching at the Federal Teat.....


8 posted on 11/11/2006 6:19:15 AM PST by Gaffer
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The resolution, passed Thursday by the all-Republican board, blames people living here illegally for a variety of social ills, DUH!
9 posted on 11/11/2006 6:21:26 AM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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""Proposals like this are not serving any purpose other than creating a hysteria in our community and feeding into the fires of this hotly debated issue around immigration," she said."

I think cutting off funds to criminal aliens does serve a purpose. I wish the federal government would act to make sure that none of these people could suck off the teat of our welfare system.


10 posted on 11/11/2006 6:26:35 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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We are so nice to illegal criminal invaders. Our 'elected' are busy handing over the keys to the country to illegal criminal invaders, offering the illegal criminal invaders a host of goodies.

The citizens no longer deserve the keys to the nation? Wonder why our 'elected' feel ths way?

11 posted on 11/11/2006 6:32:52 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: no-to-illegals

It is little wonder that they come to this country. Hell I probably would too were I one of them. We make it so pleasent to be an illegal. Were we to crack down hard on employers and cut off any type of public service to them the flow would dry up in a hurry.


13 posted on 11/11/2006 6:39:01 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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Were we to crack down hard on employers and cut off any type of public service to them the flow would dry up in a hurry.

a very correct statement, too bad our 'elected' at the federal level do not comprehend....common sense.

14 posted on 11/11/2006 6:41:36 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: personalaccts

15 posted on 11/11/2006 6:44:34 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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"9,500 Hispanics live in Gaston County (half of which are illegal), which has a population of about 196,000... Ortega-Moore said the resolution fails to mention the billions of dollars that illegal immigrants contribute to the economy."

Lets do the math. 2 billion divided by 4750 illegal Hispanics equals $421,052.62 each. Wow!
16 posted on 11/11/2006 6:52:37 AM PST by babygene
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To: personalaccts

Perfect example of how the "system" sandbags any meaningful steps trying to deal with illegal immigration.A local municipality passes a statute trying to get a handle on the cost and increasing crime this problem creates and bureaucratic naysayers like Jeanne Butterfield, Angeles Ortega-Moore and others are quick to condemn it. Moral of story..........shut up America and keep ignoring what's going on because we're NOT going to let you do anything to solve the problem !!!


17 posted on 11/11/2006 7:01:27 AM PST by Obie Wan
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To: personalaccts

Good for Gaston County. It's got nothing to do with "hating" anyone; it's about obeying the law and serving the citizens.


18 posted on 11/11/2006 7:31:14 AM PST by Tax-chick (I voted for a dead man.)
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Critics say the resolution only encourages hysteria over the immigration issue.

Precisely! We need a pandemic of hysteria. A wakeup call to the most serious threat facing our country.

19 posted on 11/11/2006 9:22:29 AM PST by upchuck (Republicans didn`t lose this time around because they were conservative, but because they WEREN`T!)
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ping


20 posted on 11/12/2006 11:45:41 PM PST by gubamyster
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