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Muslim: ‘Republicans are liberators' ( Be proud to be a Republican )
Vail Daily ^ | November 5, 2006 | Nicole Frey

Posted on 11/06/2006 7:22:40 AM PST by george76

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To: moondoggie

Thank you.

Interesting history of Dr. and Mrs. Malik Hasan and family


61 posted on 11/06/2006 5:43:18 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jwh_Denver

Half way down the article on the left hand side. There is the box titled :

" Debunking a myth"

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20061105/NEWS/61106002

" Americans think of Muslims as Arabs and vice versa, said Seeme Hasan, a Pakistan-born Muslim living in the U.S.

But 70 percent of Arabs living in America are Christians, and the largest number of Muslims are in southern Asian countries. "


62 posted on 11/06/2006 5:48:30 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsjXCVJaElM


63 posted on 11/06/2006 7:18:38 PM PST by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Prime Choice; All

thanks for the ping! just got in a while ago, still catching up....

check this out - haha, Kerry...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsjXCVJaElM


64 posted on 11/06/2006 7:25:35 PM PST by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Tamar1973
"These folks are Sufis, which more than explains their very tolerant, liberal (in the classical sense) of Islam. "

Chechens are mostly Sufis. They don't seem "very tolerant, liberal".... There is no "liberal" Islam.

Their book says what it says.
65 posted on 11/06/2006 7:27:25 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: zbigreddogz

"You are an ignorant bigot."

It's entirely rational to distrust Muslims.

To do otherwise is an act of ignorance.


66 posted on 11/06/2006 7:28:55 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Certainly the typical Moalem is more trustworthy, honorable and courageous than a Democrat."

Really, now....

I haven't seen any Democrat kill in the name of their Pelosi or Clinton. Have you?

Yes, Virginia, Islam is actually WORSE than the DNC.
67 posted on 11/06/2006 7:32:15 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
Were it not for the irresponsibility of the last Democrat President and the continued Democrat attempts to sabotage the Bush policies radical Islam would be far less of a threat than it is. Democrat propaganda has prolonged and made much more dangerous that threat over the last 30 yrs. It is now invested in Bush being defeated in Iraq and strains every effort to make sure that happens no matter the National Security impacts.

Islam has almost no power within this country and any threat it has is protected, and fostered by Democrat policies. So, unaided, Islam is no threat domestically.

However, the principle enemy is the Treason Media without which the Democrat party would be dead. If the People were told the full truth about what is going on in this nation and in the world the Democrat party would be a thing of the past. Without the conscious decision to suppress incredible information such as the Iraqi nuclear program which Libya ran for Saddam, the hundreds of forbidden weapons the military found, the chemical dumps of other forbidden weapons into the Euphrates in attempts to poison the Marines drawing water from it the People would have retained their massive support of Bush. It has stopped at nothing to defeat him and that is the real election choice coming up: Bush or the Media.

Without the conscious decision by the Treason Media to exaggerate every problem in Iraq (and the Economy), denigrate every success in Iraq (and the economy), publish and reveal Top Secret programs designed to destroy the Terrorist movement, televise UNEDITED its propaganda it would have been far less successful in undermining the establishment of stability in Iraq.

So I will modify my statement to say that the Party of Treason/Treason Media is more dangerous than Islam. In fact, it is instrumental in its power since it refuses to tell the truth about it for fear the American People would turn the Democrats out en masse. This fear is completely justified.
68 posted on 11/06/2006 8:08:27 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
They don't seem "very tolerant, liberal".... There is no "liberal" Islam.

Quite frankly, I'm not too tolerant of Russian BS either.

69 posted on 11/06/2006 8:11:51 PM PST by Tamar1973 (I find your lack of faith disturbing--Darth Vader, Ep. IV)
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To: Tamar1973
"Quite frankly, I'm not too tolerant of Russian BS either."

If that's aimed at me, Tamar, I'm not Russian.

I'm also not enough of a fool to belief that the Sufis of "whirling dervish" fame are at all peaceful in doctrine.
70 posted on 11/06/2006 8:25:49 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Islam has almost no power within this country and any threat it has is protected, and fostered by Democrat policies. So, unaided, Islam is no threat domestically."

*Liberal* policies, not just Democrat policies. Why is CAIR - an organization that has stated it seeks the overthrow of the Constitution - not only still in existence but COURTED and LISTENED TO by this non-Democrat administration? The problem is wider than just the Democrats.

I'm not going to even get further into the bowing and scraping by Rice and Hughes at State before the people who cheered the murder of Americans on 9/11....

" In fact, it is instrumental in its power since it refuses to tell the truth about it for fear the American People would turn the Democrats out en masse. This fear is completely justified."

Oh, I agree with you in general terms, but I haven't heard the truth about Islam from the President either. Not once. I had to read their book for myself.
71 posted on 11/06/2006 8:30:54 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

You're the one who mentioned the Chechens. They are rebelling against Russia. That is what I was talking about when I said I wouldn't tolerate Russian BS either.


72 posted on 11/06/2006 9:12:59 PM PST by Tamar1973 (I find your lack of faith disturbing--Darth Vader, Ep. IV)
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To: Tamar1973
"You're the one who mentioned the Chechens."

I mentioned the Chechens because they are majority Sufi.

"They are rebelling against Russia. "

Beslan is an example of the peaceful Chechens....

I don't tolerate Muslim BS. There is NO peaceful and tolerant Islam. Such a thing wouldn't be *Islam* at all.
73 posted on 11/06/2006 9:35:13 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Liberal policies are Democrat policies. Not kowtowing to the Ultras does not make the GOP "liberal".

CAIR has committed no crimes and cannot be destroyed by legal means if the Communist Party could not. And it is false that it is "courted" or paid any attention to by this administration.

Nor has there been any bowing and scraping by the Bush administration so it is just as well you don't "get into" it existing only in your imagination.

In order to understand the comments the President has made about Islam on must understand tactics and strategy.

Everyone should read the Koran. I did twenty five years ago hence I understand EXACTLY where Mad Mo's followers are coming from.


74 posted on 11/07/2006 6:32:46 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: george76

Wow! I'm stunned.


75 posted on 11/07/2006 6:34:11 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Liberal policies are Democrat policies. Not kowtowing to the Ultras does not make the GOP "liberal". "

This President campaigned for NCLB, and his $8 trillion dollar entitlement expansion. Those are liberal policies. Apparently, anyone who believes in the Party platform is an "Ultra" to you. Was CFR "conservative"? Last I checked, McCain was a Republican. Is HE a conservative?

Is importing 40 million new Democrats from the 3rd World conservative or liberal?

"CAIR has committed no crimes and cannot be destroyed by legal means if the Communist Party could not."

The German-American Bund was shutdown during WWII. CAIR is no different. In fact, the founder of CAIR stated their intentions quite clearly - to overthrow the Constitution and fly the black flag of Islam from the White House. They were FOUNDED by a terrorist group!

Of COURSE it can be closed under current law. Our government just doesn't see Islam as the problem.

" And it is false that it is "courted" or paid any attention to by this administration. "

http://wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24940

"Nor has there been any bowing and scraping by the Bush administration so it is just as well you don't "get into" it existing only in your imagination. "

Have you listened to Condi Rice lately? Apparently not.

"In order to understand the comments the President has made about Islam on must understand tactics and strategy. "

I do. The first thing you must do is to NOT tell your enemy that his propaganda is correct.
76 posted on 11/07/2006 6:45:15 AM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Exaggerations don't make a case very convincing.

Apparently you don't understand the realities of politics and the necessity to compromise and cut the ground from your enemies.

Ultras are those who put the hypothetical before the actual and believe that their fringe beliefs are widely shared despite massive evidence to the contrary.

CFR is constitutional AND ineffective. If you believe it has stopped anyone other than outright idiots from getting their message out I can only laugh at such folly. CFR is a huge source of Ultra hysteria but has done NOTHING substantial.

Relative to the rest of the political spectrum McCain is a conservative. He is a moderate for FReepers but this site is hardly representative of majority opinion. While I don't particularly like the guy I would vote for him if the
alternative any RAT I can think of.

And your Illegal hysteria is useful only to the RATs as a means of undermining the GOP. Actually the number is 260 MILLION there are only 40 million real Americans left.

CAIR is not the German Bund but Ultras don't have great powers of discrimination or judgment. What terrorist group do you believe "founded" it. And it has nothing to do with the GOP anyway.

What law do you believe could be used to close CAIR?

Condi Rice has done a great job assisting the President as anyone but DUmmies and Ultras can see. I have no interest in any links to World Nut Daily. Is it still claiming Chinese terrorists are being shipped into the country in cargo containers?

Bush has neutralized potentially hostile moslems by not attacking the religion as any competent leader would also have done. At some point the situation may change as will the tactical language. Nitwits wishing to attack all Islamics apparently have no concern with maintaining our advantage in Iraq and Afganistan hence I don't particularly care what they think or say.


77 posted on 11/07/2006 8:11:36 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Apparently you don't understand the realities of politics and the necessity to compromise and cut the ground from your enemies. "

Giving them everything they want is hardly cutting the ground underneath them.

"Ultras are those who put the hypothetical before the actual and believe that their fringe beliefs are widely shared despite massive evidence to the contrary. "

The Contract with America won Congress. "Small government" won the Presidency for Reagan.

"CFR is constitutional AND ineffective."

It is NOT - read Scalia's dissent.

"Relative to the rest of the political spectrum McCain is a conservative."

He is not. It is very clear you don't understand conservatives. If anything, you hold conservatives in contempt.

"And your Illegal hysteria is useful only to the RATs as a means of undermining the GOP. Actually the number is 260 MILLION there are only 40 million real Americans left. "

It's not hysteria. It's true. The "Rats" want the same thing the President does, so I hardly see how pointing out ruin would help them.

"CAIR is not the German Bund but Ultras don't have great powers of discrimination or judgment. What terrorist group do you believe "founded" it. And it has nothing to do with the GOP anyway.

What law do you believe could be used to close CAIR?"

CAIR was founded by and for Hezbollah. Sedition is still illegal. So is funding terrorists.

"Condi Rice has done a great job assisting the President as anyone but DUmmies and Ultras can see."

I see you again equate liberals with conservatives.

"Bush has neutralized potentially hostile moslems by not attacking the religion as any competent leader would also have done."

They aren't neutralized at all. They smell weakness, if anything. Praising Bushido and the Cult of the Emperor would not have helped in WWII. What makes you think it would now?

"Nitwits wishing to attack all Islamics apparently have no concern with maintaining our advantage in Iraq and Afganistan hence I don't particularly care what they think or say."

You know, I view financial analysts commenting on this subject in much the same way. I don't care what you think.
78 posted on 11/07/2006 2:48:53 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: george76

Teddy's a top notch driver .... :)


79 posted on 11/07/2006 10:01:14 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: jan in Colorado

Thanks !!!


80 posted on 11/11/2006 11:33:45 AM PST by vince2285
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