[Ms Luxuria is Italy's first transgender MP] Posted on 10/28/2006 12:19:17 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
An Italian opposition MP and former showgirl has expressed outrage after meeting a transgender colleague in the parliament's ladies' toilets.
Elisabetta Gardini, spokeswoman for former PM Silvio Berlusconi's party, said she felt ill after the encounter during a break in Friday's session.
The incident led to heated debate about which toilet the transgender MP, known as Vladimir Luxuria, could use.
[Ms Luxuria is Italy's first transgender MP]
Ms Luxuria says she has been using ladies' toilets for years.
Using the men's would have created even bigger problems, she said.
The matter has now been passed to parliamentary procedural officials to resolve.
'Sexual violence'
Ms Gardini said she had been horrified to find Ms Luxuria in the toilets.
[Ms Gardini is an ally of Silvio Berlusconi]
"It never entered my mind that I'd find him in there", she said. "It felt like sexual violence - I really felt ill."
Centre-right MPs backed her call for the creation of a third "transgender" toilet, Reuters news agency said.
But ruling coalition deputies accused Ms Gardini of discrimination tantamount to racism.
Ms Luxuria said she had not expected such aggression in the parliament.
Born Wladimiro Guadagno, Ms Luxuria wears women's clothes but has not had sex-change surgery.
A 40-year-old former drag queen and prominent gay rights activist, she was elected MP for the Communist Refoundation, a member of Prime Minister Romano Prodi's centre-left coalition, in April.
I can't imagine what the district looks like who elected this person.
Y chromosome? Male plubming? The label they are looking for is "Mr", not "Ms".
I think that I read in the forum last year that Amherst College has yet another facility for students who haven't yet decided what gender they are.
If the Italians decide to upgrade their restroom situation, they should keep that in mind. Might as well do all the work in one go, I always say. It's cheaper in the long run.
Exactly.
Let this confused fellow have his pee-pee whacked off and restructured, then maybe he can use the women's room. Until then, he's not a woman, he's a transvestite male. Sorry.
Hell, when I was in high school I'd probably have considered dressing up like a female if I thought it would get me free entry to the girls' room on a regular basis. Just, daaay-um...
Quagmire: Hey there baby, how 'bout showing me the Lower-East side?
Transvestite: Sure.
Quagmire: WHOA! Transvestite! BACK OFF! Wait, pre-op or post-op?
Transvestite: Pre-op.
Quagmire: WHOA! Transvestite! BACK OFF!
Can anybody explain to me why it is necessary for genders to have separate facilities for the purposes of evacuating bowels and bladders?
Looked at pictures of both on Google Image. My bet would be on Elisabetta best 2 out of 3 falls.
Because women use that room as a meeting place for comparing notes on the social scene, the men they're with, fussing with makeup and undergarments they think we know nothing about, trading tampons, and gossiping.
Do you really want to see and hear that stuff while you're trying to take a whiz? I sure don't.
The communist party? Whoa..she/he would not have lasted long in the communist soviet union. these leftists are so whacked.
More useful idiots.
If it has to be explained to you, you won't understand it.
> Because women use that room as a meeting place for comparing notes on the social scene, the men they're with, fussing with makeup and undergarments they think we know nothing about, trading tampons, and gossiping. Do you really want to see and hear that stuff while you're trying to take a whiz? I sure don't.
FULL DISCLOSURE:
I agree with you that _IF_ the room was only for the purpose of evacuating bowels and bladders, I have no objection, and in fact have always been perfectly at ease with unisex bathrooms in places where the only thing going on is peeing or pooping, like college dorms, frats, and so on. It takes a little getting used to, standing at a urinal and having a woman stand up alongside of you with one of those pee-adapter thingies, but the novelty fades after the first few times. And it makes for interesting conversations.
But women use the bathroom for many other things that are not cross-gender compatible. I can't imagine they'd be comfortable doing all their gossip and adjustments in front of men.
Total confusion, both of culture and language. The use of the word "transgendered" should be castrated, Bobbitted and hacked from language.
make it pizz outside with the rest of the animals...
Do they really trade tampons? I'm not sure I want to know any more about it.
I'm not sure how you trade a tampon. Unless its for Midol or chocolate!
> I'm not sure how you trade a tampon. Unless its for Midol or chocolate!
Women's rooms often have dispensers for such items, but rarely have a decent selection. Women come in many different shapes and sizes -- one size does not fit all. I'm told that bargaining is a pretty common occurrence ("Here, try one of mine.")
You realize of course that if women's rooms had chocolate dispensers, the women would never have to leave the room ever again.
Reminds me of the Chemistry Building at Purdue when I was in graduate school there, some 50 years ago. Three floors, restroom on each floor, labeled respectively "Men," "Women," "Faculty."
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