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Are Muslim Women Oppressed? - An exploration of the place of women in Islam
Reason ^ | October 24, 2006 | Cathy Young

Posted on 10/26/2006 9:39:41 AM PDT by neverdem

Britain has been in turmoil over veils in recent days, after a school in Yorkshire suspended a Muslim teacher's assistant for wearing "niqab"—a form of the traditional veil that leaves only a slit for the eyes. Further stoking the flames, House of Commons leader Jack Straw revealed that in meetings with constituents, he had asked niqab-wearing women to remove their veils for better face-to-face interaction.

The niqab controversy has focused on thorny questions of cultural integration and religious tolerance in Europe. However, it is also a debate about women and Islam.

For Westerners, the veil has long been a symbol of the oppression of women in the Islamic world. Today, quite a few Muslims regard it as a symbol of cultural and religious self-assertion and reject the idea that Muslim women are downtrodden. In our multicultural age, many liberals are reluctant to criticize the subjugation of women in Muslim countries and Muslim immigrant communities, fearful of promoting the notion of Western superiority. At the other extreme, some critics have used the plight of Muslim women to suggest that Islam is inherently evil and even to bash Muslims.

Recently, these tensions turned into a nasty academic controversy in the United States, as the Chronicle of Higher Education has reported. In June, Hamid Dabashi, an Iranian-born professor of Iranian studies and comparative literature at Columbia University, published an article in the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram attacking Azar Nafisi, Iranian émigré and author of the 2003 best seller "Reading Lolita In Tehran." Nafisi's memoir is a harsh portrait of life in Iran after the Ayatollah Khomeini's Islamic revolution, focusing in particular on the mistreatment of women, who were stripped of their former rights and harshly punished for violating strict religious codes of dress and behavior.

Complaining that Nafisi's writings demonize Iran, Dabashi branded her a "native informer and colonial agent for American imperialism." In a subsequent interview, he compared her to Lynndie England, the US soldier convicted of abusing Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

While Dabashi's rhetoric is extreme, it is not unique. Even in academic feminist groups on the Internet, criticisms of the patriarchal oppression of women in Muslim countries are often met with hostility unless accompanied by disclaimers that American women too are oppressed.

A more thoughtful examination of Islam and women's rights was offered earlier this month at a symposium at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. The keynote speaker, Syrian-American psychiatrist Wafa Sultan, an outspoken critic of Islam, described an "honor killing" of a young Middle Eastern woman that occurred with the help of her mother. In a later exchange, another participant, Libyan journalist Sawsan Hanish, argued that it was unfair to single out Muslim societies, since women suffer violence and sexual abuse in every society including the United States. Sultan pointed out a major difference: In many Muslim cultures, such violence and abuse are accepted and legalized.

Yet the symposium's moderator, scholar Michael Ledeen, rejected Sultan's assertion that Islam is irredeemably anti-woman. He noted that the idea that some religions cannot be reformed runs counter to the history of religions. Several panelists spoke of Muslim feminists' efforts to reform Islam and separate its spiritual message from the human patriarchal baggage. Some of these reformers look for a lost female-friendly legacy in early Islam; others argue that everything in the Koran that runs counter to the modern understanding of human rights and equality should be revised or rejected. These feminists have an uphill battle to fight, and they deserve all the support they can get.

Meanwhile, using the language of tolerance to justify oppressive practices is a grotesque perversion of liberalism. The veiling debate is a case in point. No amount of rhetorical sleight of hand can disguise the fact that the full-face veil makes women, literally, faceless. Some Muslim women in the West may choose this garb (which is not mandated in the Koran), but their explanations often reveal an internalized misogynistic view of women as creatures whose very existence is a sexual provocation to men. What's more, their choice helps legitimize a custom that is imposed on millions of women around the world who have no choice.

Perhaps, as some say, women are the key to Islam's modernization. The West cannot impose its own solutions from the outside—but, at the very least, it can honestly confront the problem.


Cathy Young is a Reason contributing editor and the author of Growing Up in Moscow: Memories of a Soviet Girlhood. This column appeared in the Boston Globe.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eurabia; islam; rop; veil; women
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1 posted on 10/26/2006 9:39:43 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Is the pope German?


2 posted on 10/26/2006 9:47:56 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: neverdem

Does any serious adult outside of the Muslim world give one damn about the well being of Muslim women?
Going by the record all they seem to be doing these days is spawning mass murderers.


3 posted on 10/26/2006 9:48:32 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: neverdem
In our multicultural age, many liberals are reluctant to criticize the subjugation of women in Muslim countries and Muslim immigrant communities, fearful of promoting the notion of Western superiority.

Yes, God forbid we promote that.


4 posted on 10/26/2006 9:49:39 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: RexBeach

Muslim women are nothing more than slaves. First to their fathers and brothers and then they are sexual slaves to their husbands.
They have no say in their lives!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 10/26/2006 9:49:55 AM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: neverdem
Multiculturalism is not about tolerance.
Multiculturalism is not about reforming oppressive societies.

Multicultralism is about destroying the West so that more oppressive societies can flourish more easily. Read Gramsci.

6 posted on 10/26/2006 9:52:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: neverdem

Yes, women are indeed oppressed under Islam. So what? They like it. If muslim women in the West complain that islam is oppressive to women they why do they remain muslims?

I have no sympathy for anyone who voluntarily stands in a cesspool and then complains about how nasty the cesspool is.


7 posted on 10/26/2006 9:55:37 AM PDT by navyguy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Islam is straight from Hell itself.

Where are the Democrats and the Feminists? They are allied with these demons, and fight good every step of the way.

Woman Burnt by her Husband

Warning - graphic photo inside the link.


8 posted on 10/26/2006 9:56:49 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: navyguy

NAILED IT !

9 posted on 10/26/2006 9:59:30 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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Hmmmm... Image and video hosting by TinyPic
10 posted on 10/26/2006 10:00:14 AM PDT by EX52D (Life is a stage, and we are merely players...)
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Come on guys. Our attitudes would be crazy different if women in the west could not supress their reproductive systems. The success of the western woman's movement is a result of the pill and other forms of birth control. Carpet bomb them with the little dials if you want to beat em. The men in Tehran are so freaked out by the introduction of technology they would build a bomb to try and fend us off. Us being modernity.


11 posted on 10/26/2006 10:02:16 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: navyguy
Yes, women are indeed oppressed under Islam. So what?

I know the specific case of a Muslim woman from Kuwait who came here to study, and then stayed because she wanted freedom. She wanted to be a professional (dentist, IIRC) and not be force-married into a homemaker life.

I believe she still wears the head scarf though.

12 posted on 10/26/2006 10:02:41 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: neverdem
" Some Muslim women in the West may choose this garb (which is not mandated in the Koran)

Like H@ll it isn't. Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way).>/i>

” Does anyone bother to read it before they make up these lies?

13 posted on 10/26/2006 10:04:04 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: navyguy

You are right. Ask a muslim woman and she will say she likes it. She'll say she's being put on a pedestal. Get her liberated from perpetual pregnancy and ask her again. Whose right and whose wrong here?


14 posted on 10/26/2006 10:04:35 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: navyguy
How would you tell them to get out of it? Muslim women have no rights. They can be stoned to death, killed for almost any reason. Just how are they to get out of this cesspool? What I don't understand is the American women who go into this culture knowing full well what it is all about. The ones in Muslim countries have little choice but to do as they are told or be treated terribly and face death. The ones in this country can sink for all I care they chose their religion of peace. I am sick of Muslims!!
15 posted on 10/26/2006 10:05:30 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: neverdem
Typical Ekaterina Jung (Cathy Young) equivocating garbage. So we have no right to impose western values on Islam and its oppression of women, Ekaterina (Cathy)? Since Islam is backward and oppresses women, we certainly do have the right to impose our values.

If they can behead people for cartoons and shoot a humane nun for a Pope's very intellectual comments, we can do some forceful stuff, too.

16 posted on 10/26/2006 10:06:23 AM PDT by Stepan12 (NY Times: Bush finds cure for cancer; healthcare workers to suffer massive layoffs)
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To: neverdem

This isn't a subject that can be rationally debated with a Muslim because Islam is not rational. That being said, of course Islam oppresses women, but it is more like a case of the Stockholm syndrome, the women don't react to the oppression in a normal manner. The women who grow up in Islam don't understand freedom and the new converts are proud of the veil because it sets them apart in a kind of in your face protest against all infidels. Like I said, it is not something that can be rational discussed.


17 posted on 10/26/2006 10:10:38 AM PDT by Eva
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To: pandoraou812
What I don't understand is the American women who go into this culture knowing full well what it is all about.

A woman who used to live in my hometown of Syracuse married a Muslim (Saudi) man. From what I could gather, she did so for two reasons: he had money, and she had no love of the US. She was at a Christmas party once and all she wanted to do was talk Liberal politics.

Why do some Libs hate America and the West?

I have my own theories, but I believe it mainly stems from a hatred of Judeo-Christianity.

Oh, the woman, by the way, escaped from Saudi Arabia and is now back in the US. She left her kids behind, of course.

18 posted on 10/26/2006 10:12:02 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: EX52D

Your picture is downright scary. I am wondering if there are Muslim cross dressers? All that cloth and veils who would know?


19 posted on 10/26/2006 10:12:58 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: EX52D

Looks like Halloween all the time.


20 posted on 10/26/2006 10:16:21 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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