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Hillary stuck between Barack and a hard place
MND ^ | October 24, 2006 | By Mike Bates

Posted on 10/24/2006 5:58:28 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy

Mrs. Clinton is not a sympathetic figure. Although there may still be a residue of public empathy because of her husband’s bad behavior, many people view her as an enabler, aware of his philandering from the start. As the song goes, she knew he was a snake before she took him in.

There must be, however, a modicum of compassion for her now. With the sudden emergence of Barack – make that Barack! – Obama as a likely candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, she’s gone from Hillary the inevitable to Hillary the unenviable.

Senator Obama says he’s thinking of running. What he really means is he wants Democratic voters to think of him running. And to ask, nay beg, him to accept their coronation.

There’s Obama on Oprah. There’s Obama on the cover of Time. There’s Obama persistently being hyped on cable news show as serious presidential timber.

On one program the other day, the media’s excitement was conspicuous. Chris Matthews told viewers that Senator Obama “can stand before a crowd and make them feel magic.” A Time reporter noted that the Illinois senator “really is really good.” Not to be outdone, a BBC correspondent expressed her opinion that Barack “has all sorts of charisma. He is ridiculously good looking!”

Assuredly, his pals in the mainstream media are doing what they can to peddle Obama. Yet there’s no doubting his appeal to rank-and-file Democrats as well.

Why? In a word, baggage.

Barack doesn’t have a lot. At least not a lot that’s generally known. He’s immunized himself to a certain degree by already admitting marijuana and cocaine use. That’s one skeleton that won’t tumble out of the closet.

By contrast, Mrs. Clinton needs a platoon of skycaps to lug her baggage around. Her involvement in her husband’s last-minute pardons, her brothers’ involvement in her husband’s last-minute pardons, FBI files, missing billing records, fundraising improprieties, Whitewater, her health care reform fiasco, Vince Foster, Webster Hubbell, and who hired a bar bouncer to run White House security are just a few of the choice topics that would be reexamined if she secured the nomination.

Even her most enthusiastic admirers have to know what she’s in for.

Mrs. Clinton also has something else Mr. Obama doesn’t: a six-year record of voting in the Senate. Those thousands of pieces of legislation she’s voted on will be gone over with a fine tooth comb.

Her liberalism will be evident. While this will help within her party, Democrats who, for a change of pace, want to win the presidency may wish to present a more moderate image.

All this doesn’t mean Mr. Obama will be waltzing to the White House. It’s true that he only has two years of casting votes in Washington . Still, his own liberalism will soon be obvious.

The National Journal’s evaluation for 2005 shows Mrs. Clinton voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 80 percent of her colleagues. Mr. Obama’s liberal composite score was even higher, at 83 percent. Again, that might be beneficial in seeking his party’s nod, but not in November.

Mr. Obama’s record as a state senator in Illinois will be inspected. He voted for tax increases, abortions and mandated sex education from kindergarten. He opposed pornography filers on school computers, and when a vote came on banning strip clubs and porn shops within 1,000 feet of schools and churches, the best he could do was vote “present.”

Republicans will exploit that, as well as his admission that “We (Democrats) are trying to decide what our core values are.” For a smart man, the senator sure seems vague much of the time. Trying to figure out what his core values are is tricky.

His campaigning skills are untested. Mr. Obama secured his U.S. senatorial nomination in 2004 only when the frontrunner’s campaign collapsed because of scandal. Four years earlier, he tried taking a congressional nomination from former Black Panther Bobby Rush and lost by a 2-1 ratio.

Can Senator Obama survive the scrutiny brought by a presidential campaign? Can he endure the barrage of questions, even those from fawningly friendly reporters?

A generation ago another press darling, Teddy Kennedy, enjoyed widespread popularity. A 1979 Harris poll had Kennedy with a 56 to 39 percent lead among Democrats over incumbent President Jimmy Carter for the 1980 nomination. Teddy couldn’t handle the close attention, however, and his challenge fell short.

Mrs. Clinton has her failings – and I’m eager to point them out – but she won’t wilt in the glaring lights of a national campaign. Even if reporters don’t call her ridiculously good looking.

As someone without a dog in this fight, I’m looking forward to the pantsuit and the empty suit duking it out.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airheads; doofii; twoclowns; twoidiots
Shoot! I'm ridiculously good looking myself. I think I'll run against both of them.
1 posted on 10/24/2006 5:58:30 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Is that "hard place" her husband?

-PJ

2 posted on 10/24/2006 6:00:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Are you a stalking horse, too?


3 posted on 10/24/2006 6:06:46 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
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To: Political Junkie Too

The Democrats have only one person that has a snowballs chance in hell of being President and I doubt that Zell Miller will run.


4 posted on 10/24/2006 6:07:30 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Killem All, Let Allah Sort Them Out)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
there may still be a residue of public empathy because of her husband’s bad behavior

I can't empathizes with a rapist-enabler.

5 posted on 10/24/2006 6:07:59 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

I'm better looking than both of those dogs.


6 posted on 10/24/2006 6:08:52 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

pUH-LEEEEZ!

Let Obama run!!!!!


7 posted on 10/24/2006 6:09:06 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

The only two reasons why Balack Obama is even being considered as a possible contender:

1.He's not Hillary.

2. He's not white.


8 posted on 10/24/2006 6:16:08 PM PDT by pjsbro
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
"As someone without a dog in this fight, I’m looking forward to the pantsuit and the empty suit duking it out."

ROFLMAO!!!
9 posted on 10/24/2006 6:16:36 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

If he did, he'd probably change to Republican anyway. I would still vote for him.


10 posted on 10/24/2006 6:17:33 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Barack. AKA Cannon Fodder for the Clinton attack machine. If he runs he gets ate up and spit out like Bazooka Joe.
11 posted on 10/24/2006 6:20:16 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: All

This is the first time she has been pinned up next to any man for a long time...


12 posted on 10/24/2006 6:45:48 PM PDT by Skenderbej
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To: pjsbro

And he's obviously very naive if he thinks that Democrats would let him go ahead unstopped. Is he not familiar with the racism that characterizes that party?


13 posted on 10/24/2006 6:48:07 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

If that is true about Barack I want vote for either one because they both dont have any morals.


14 posted on 10/24/2006 6:51:57 PM PDT by results only
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

If that is true about Barack I want vote for either one because they both dont have any morals.


15 posted on 10/24/2006 6:53:34 PM PDT by results only
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
I'm ridiculously good looking myself. I think I'll run against both of them.

McPhilthy, you've got my vote.

16 posted on 10/24/2006 6:56:48 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Lets see Obama's Grandfather and Father were Muslim he was educated for two years in a Muslim school???/ Nah I dont think I want to have anything to do with him for President.


17 posted on 10/24/2006 6:57:49 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
'One little communist, two little communists.
Three little communists, four....'
18 posted on 10/24/2006 7:07:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Hillary will push Obama aside like a lawn mower with a blade of grass.


19 posted on 10/24/2006 7:10:02 PM PDT by IonInsights
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To: Political Junkie Too
Is that "hard place" her husband?

Bill: "*shudder* Please don't say 'Hillary' and 'hard place' in the same sentence."

20 posted on 10/24/2006 7:16:04 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

A ridiculously liberal Senator from corruption-ridden Chicago is not going to do well.


21 posted on 10/24/2006 7:25:34 PM PDT by ikka
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To: bannie

22 posted on 10/24/2006 7:30:29 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Howlin

GACK!

..and there wasn't room in the picture for the carpet bags filled with BOOTY from her gig in the White House!


23 posted on 10/24/2006 7:40:39 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

"Barack and Barracuda in '08!"

What a team.


24 posted on 10/24/2006 7:41:09 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: bannie

I actually believe that cartoon was first published before she was elected, so she was still in the White House; she hadn't gotten her grubby paws on our loot yet.


25 posted on 10/24/2006 7:42:08 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Thanks for posting this, Nasty. I've heard from a couple of 'Rats who don't care for it much. I'm feelin' real bad about that.
26 posted on 10/24/2006 7:57:59 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

I don't know how you sleep at night.


27 posted on 10/24/2006 8:08:10 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

28 posted on 10/24/2006 11:10:31 PM PDT by Dan Lacey
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

We know you're ridiculously good looking, but you haven't admitted to cocaine use, so you're out.
----Seriously, this guy admitted to using cocaine ( or trying it?)---doesn't everyone know what a stupid admission that is??? That automatically disqualifies him!
That trumps the "honesty" of admitting it. What a dope this guy is, not just for using coke, but for thinking he could gain advantage by admitting it.


29 posted on 10/24/2006 11:51:58 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits targets no one else can hit, but genius hits targets no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Barack Hussein Obama has no baggage? What is this guy smoking?


30 posted on 10/24/2006 11:53:53 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

How great will it be if Kerry, Edwards, Hillary, Gore, Obama, Feingold, etc. ALL run?

I don't think I'd be employable any place that didn't let me have a TV on in the background.

Pass the popcorn.


31 posted on 10/24/2006 11:55:32 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: supremedoctrine

Uhh, no offense, but how old are you?

It will help him a LOT more then hurt him with anybody under 45.


32 posted on 10/24/2006 11:56:28 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: bannie

Well the first thing I saw in that cartoon was her ample booty...


33 posted on 10/24/2006 11:59:32 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
His book from years ago, "Barack Like Me", will eventually come back to haunt him.
34 posted on 10/25/2006 12:02:00 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Cincinna
Barack Hussein Obama has no baggage?

"Why? In a word, baggage.

Barack doesn’t have a lot."

35 posted on 10/25/2006 4:46:16 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: zbigreddogz

No offense. I am older than Barack Obama. It was one thing
for Bubba Clinton to "admit" "trying" marijuana "a time or two" back in '91, and claiming "I didn't inhale", and get away with it, or actually stir up a little more interest in himself and his campaign, than it is for this new "rock Star" to admit using cocaine. Unless he qualifies it with as much rancid insincerity as Clinton did, and hangs his head , Clinton-style, in a "I-have-sinned" plea for forgiveness , he has just shot himself in the foot. Don't forget the coke, smack, crack, heroin, etc etc. users are not always the most reliable voters. Sorry, this guy, who I instinctively disliked from the beginning, has just finished his campaign before it started. The ONLY hope is for the media to completely whitewash the coke use, and/or assiduously never allow it to be brought up under their watch. This you can count on them to do.


36 posted on 10/25/2006 10:43:26 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits targets no one else can hit, but genius hits targets no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: supremedoctrine

You know when interviewed VP Cheney said Obama was "good looking" and that was like a back handed slap saying that's all he's got going for him?


37 posted on 10/25/2006 10:48:29 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: supremedoctrine

It was the "I did not inhale" part that got Clinton in trouble. Had he just admitted to trying it and said nothing more, it would have ended there.

Example: Al Gore admitted to trying it too, sans the "I didn't inhale" part. I bet you didn't even know that. Why? Nobody cared.

There's a big generational gap on this. The younger generation has been raised with the drug culture all around it. Most don't approve of it, but most understand that good people might have tried a lot of things in the past. The older you get, the more they are scared off by it, statistically, I mean.


38 posted on 10/25/2006 11:27:57 AM PDT by zbigreddogz (`)
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To: princess leah
You know when interviewed VP Cheney said Obama was "good looking" . . .

Let's hope that wasn't a "Mark Foley moment."

39 posted on 10/25/2006 11:31:21 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

It's not easy.


40 posted on 10/25/2006 11:32:07 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Phlap
Barack. AKA Cannon Fodder for the Clinton attack machine. If he runs he gets ate up and spit out like Bazooka Joe.

Givin' good teleprompter is more critical than I realized.

41 posted on 05/07/2008 9:48:21 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: IonInsights
Hillary will push Obama aside like a lawn mower with a blade of grass.

Guess HRC's baggage was just too heavy for her fellow 'Rats.

42 posted on 05/07/2008 9:50:06 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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