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Behind Kosovo's Facade
Serbianna ^ | Sept 25, 2006 | Russell Gordon

Posted on 10/24/2006 3:48:18 PM PDT by Celebratelife008

Arrogantly strutting around the opulent OSCE restaurant, on an upper floor of its Pristina headquarters, Richard Holbrooke cut an imposing figure. The “Balkan peace negotiator” whose bloody legacy stretched from Vietnam and Indonesia to Belgrade minced no words about US policy for the region. In front of the five heads of UNMIK he bellowed: “Forget multi-ethnic Kosovo. Forget Resolution 1244. We only signed that to get rid of the Serbs.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: balkans; clinton; jihad; kosovo; muslim; serbia; terrorism; wrongside; wrongwar
what we have done there is evil incarnate....
1 posted on 10/24/2006 3:48:19 PM PDT by Celebratelife008
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To: Celebratelife008; Bokababe; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ...

And the Muslims gave the US a personalized "Thank you" on September 11, 2001.


2 posted on 10/24/2006 3:54:42 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Celebratelife008

Serbs = Christians


3 posted on 10/24/2006 4:00:30 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...
PING!
4 posted on 10/24/2006 4:06:50 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...

Richard Holbrooke cut an imposing figure: "Forget multi-ethnic Kosovo. Forget Resolution 1244. We only signed that to get rid of the Serbs." he bellowed.


5 posted on 10/24/2006 4:15:12 PM PDT by A. Pole (Holbrooke:"Forget multi-ethnic Kosovo.Forget Res. 1244. We only signed that to get rid of the Serbs")
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To: Celebratelife008

One thing that is not talked about enough (I think) is that aside from the

1. The right and wrong of the situation.
2. The fact that we helped our enemies (muslims/terrorists).

It seems to be that our (clinton's) policies in Yugoslavia poisoned the well of US/Russian relations.

I suppose things could have turned out just as bad as they did without all that went on (especially the Pristina airport incident) and we'll never really know, but it's a safe bet that it didn't help any.

Another clinton legacy - we backed the wrong side, we helped the muslim terrorists (drug dealers) and we screwed the pooch as far as relations with Russia.

Nice going.


6 posted on 10/24/2006 4:20:04 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Celebratelife008

This was all very confusing at the time. The MSM painted horrible pictures in black and white night after night. Serbs were evil, genocidal thugs and the Kosovo Muslims were all innocent victims. I don't remember hearing anything else. What was clear was that the media was on a mission to get the Clinton administration to go to war on the side of the Muslims. They were relentless.


7 posted on 10/24/2006 5:35:46 PM PDT by carola
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To: carola

["I don't remember hearing anything else. "]

I can try refresh your memory back as far as the late 1980s and early to mid-1990s. Here goes...

Milosevic's "original sin" was that he was a socialist who resisted the West's push (led mainly by Germany and the US) for the breakup of Yugoslavia as far back as 1989. He didn't want to subject Yugoslavia to the painful economic reforms of privatization, strict IMF rules, etc. that were afflicting so many of the other former Eastern-Bloc countries under communist rule.

Because of his resistance to the West, the western media painted the conflicts in the Balkans as a war of good (The Muslims) against evil (The Serbs). As such, and with strong media support, it was easy for the Clinton administration to stigmatize Serbia as a rogue nation. Unfortunately, we're still paying the price for this negative stigmatization.


8 posted on 10/24/2006 6:19:00 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic; carola

Germany, Austria and Rome were the driving forces to split Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia from Yugoslavia.

Milosevic was made the whipping boy because he was the Serbian President. Had anyone else been the President, that person would have been painted as evil!


9 posted on 10/24/2006 6:25:59 PM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
>>>>>Another clinton legacy - we backed the wrong side, we helped the muslim terrorists (drug dealers) and we screwed the pooch as far as relations with Russia.>>>>>>>>

The immediate results of Clintoon's helping Islamofascists are even worse:

1. India and Pakistan tested balistic missiles during bombing and mauling of Serbia. Only fools did not see the connection.

on 11 April 1999 India conducted a successful 14 minute test flight of the 2,500 kilometer Agni-II missile. "The entire process of achieving a minimum deterrent has been completed," Vajpayee announced following the test. "We are satisfied that we are now fully capable of defending our borders," he added. Pakistan responded with an eight-minute test flight of the Ghauri II three days later.

2. Stealth technology became obsolete overnight. Two-bit Serbian Air defence shot down F-117a. Subsequent bombing of Chicom embassy did not change anything- it was shutting the barn's door after the horse was gone.

3. Drunken sailor Yeltsin was replaced by the sly Putin, who rode on the wave of displeasure how U.S. was mauling Serbia.

4. The crack in NATO. Nato became offensive alliance, a mirror image of Warszaw Pact. Some Europeans got really upset because of it. Unsupport for Iraq has it's roots there.

5. U.S. de facto sided with OBL and created islamic cancer on the southern NATO flank. The idea that it will be resolved by exterminating Serbs is naive - the fact is, U.S. can not wage three wars simultaneously.

Clinton's legacy is like herpes - the gift that keeps on giving.

10 posted on 10/24/2006 7:00:07 PM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: DTA

All good points - I would only add that your point #3 is a reflection of the point I was making - we pissed the Russians off, and Putin is one of the results.

Your point #4 is doubly ironic because at the time one of the justifications for intervening was "to save NATO" - Blair made this argument as did many others. I never understood it then and I don't understand it now.


11 posted on 10/24/2006 7:20:43 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: DTA
["Two-bit Serbian Air defence shot down F-117a."]

Ahem, how was it done?
12 posted on 10/24/2006 7:39:39 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: F-117A

["Had anyone else been the President, that person would have been painted as evil!"]

The people that worry me the most are those that don't know...and they don't know that they don't know.

I hope this is clear.


13 posted on 10/24/2006 9:33:17 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Your assertions are right on target, but the point is...it was and is planned that way...that is the problem. We are deep into the planning and orchestrating this entire ruse since Bosnia.


14 posted on 10/25/2006 1:24:43 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
>>>>Ahem, how was it done?<<<<

Think of it in the light of Sun Tzu's The Art of war. . More important than how it is done is that this is proven doable.

Ever thought why there is a flood of dirt cheap valve audio equipment coming from China? I bet this is a spin-off of Chicom military production. I can also bet that Chicoms are busy making copies of Czech Tamara radar in Wall Mart-sized quantities.

15 posted on 10/25/2006 6:22:54 AM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Milosevic's "original sin" was that he was a socialist who resisted the West's push (led mainly by Germany and the US) for the breakup of Yugoslavia as far back as 1989.

Are you saying Milosevic should have encouraged the breakup of yugoslavia? Or, at least, not opposed it?

16 posted on 10/25/2006 7:20:18 AM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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To: F-117A

He should've taken Serbia out of Yugoslavia in 1987 and applied for NATO and EU memberships. If not in 1987, then in 1990 at the latest. It is beyond me how he could not have foreseen the way things were going to go in Yugoslavia.


17 posted on 10/25/2006 7:35:41 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIÆ | http://degaullist.wordpress.com)
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To: Banat
He should've taken Serbia out of Yugoslavia in 1987 and applied for NATO and EU memberships. If not in 1987, then in 1990 at the latest.

Wouldn't Croatia (Krajina/Slavonia) and BiH still exploded?

Also, would this have prevented Kosovo from exploding?

18 posted on 10/25/2006 9:10:56 PM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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To: F-117A
Wouldn't Croatia (Krajina/Slavonia) and BiH still exploded?

Highly unlikely, due to the fact that NATO/EU would've considered it their core interest to prevent any and all violence (after all, one of their own would've been involved). They would've been involved from Day 1, and no shenanigans from anyone in the rest of Yugoslavia would've been tolerated given that the Cold War still was security concern #1.

Also, would this have prevented Kosovo from exploding?

It is almost certain that the separatists would've been dealt with promptly and that Serbia would've been given pretty much a free hand. Plus, any action would've been in co-ordination with NATO. They would've had absolutely no allies in Europe/Washington, and no amount of lobbying could've changed that.

However, it's a big "?" whether NATO would've agreed to take Serbia in in the first place (the USSR would've gone apesh_t, most likely).

19 posted on 10/25/2006 11:11:09 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIÆ | http://degaullist.wordpress.com)
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To: carola

Peter Brock; "Media Cleansing:Dirty Reporting", very informative.


20 posted on 12/29/2006 11:47:56 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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