Posted on 10/06/2006 5:32:15 PM PDT by Phsstpok
Intresting to watch and see if the National Republicans are smart enough to run with this idea.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1715441/posts
Posted at 12:42pm on Oct. 7, 2006
The Sunday Morning Talkshows - lineup
By Mark Kilmer
For Sunday, October 8, 2006
Meet the Press (NBC): Host Tim Russert has another face-off, this one between Senator Jim Talent (R-Missouri) and Democrat Claire McCaskill. And then, Bob Woodward will on to hawk his little novel, the one which is now ignored, in the wake of Mark Foley's shenanigans, but is falling apart by the day.
FOX News Sunday (FNS): Host Chris Wallace speaks to Representative Jack Kingson (R-New York) about the "page scandal." Then he speaks with radio talker Laura Ingraham, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, and David Bossie, president of Citizens United. They're covering their conservative bases after two-weeks of Clinton (Bill) Nonstop.
Face the Nation (CBS): Host Bob Schieffer talks pages with two Republicans: Tom Davis of Virginia and Ray LaHood of Illinois.
This Week (ABC): Host George Stephanopoulos talks to NRSC chair Tom Reynolds (R-New York) and DCCC boss and former Clinton (Bill) staffer Rahm Emmanuel (D-Ill) about the "Foley fallout" and the prospects for a Dem triumph this November.
Late Edition (CNN): Host Wolf Blitzer interviews Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, John Cornyn and Joe Biden, a bunch of reporters -- including two hawking a book -- and, of all people, Pat Buchanan, He's also pushing a book.
--------Going into this, we have to cut these guys some slack. We've put a lot of pixels to the bit with Foley and the pages, but the Sunday morning talkers are playing catchup. They ignored it last week, but now the Dems have had time to lock, load, and aim at Speaker Hastert. The paucity of Dem guests is surprising, Rahm, on Steph's show, is the elections guy who, having worked for Clinton (Bill), won't have a lot of latitude to talk about sex scandals. Joe Biden, on CNN, wants to talk about other things. It's terrible, he's above it, it's trivial: "Look, Wolf..."
If you know of anyone liveblogging Talent vs. McCaskill, let me know and I'll link.
As always, (Phsstpok) has his entertaining talkshow preview up at Free Republic.
I'll have the complete review here at RedState early tomorrow afternoon.
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I would love someone to ask one of these people. WHAT should Hastert of done? A Rep comes to him and tells him about 2 emails sent by another Rep to one of his constituents. Remember Hastert is an older male. Imagining he is going to have all the hip late 1990s dogma about how to spot a Sexual Predators down is nonsense. They look into it. The emails are not actionable. They sit the guy down and tell him to knock it off. HE knocks it off. There is NO report of any contact AFTER the warning was issued. Innocent until proven Guilty ISN'T just a slogan.
In the perfect world, what was Hastert suppose to do?
Hope the National Republicans are watching this. This is a brilliant response.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1715525/posts?page=2
A Tale of Two Ads
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/16/06 issue | William Kristol
Posted on 10/07/2006 2:40:27 PM CDT by AmericanExceptionalist
Repelled by former Republican congressman Mark Foley's sexual overtures to congressional pages and ex-pages, and by the House GOP leadership's alleged failure to move aggressively against him? Vote Democratic. Worried about the Demo crats' tendency to coddle jihadists? Vote Republican.
(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...
Could you remind me please... which one is Alphonse and which is Gaston?
Thanks so much for all the owrk you put into this weeky advisory... love the way you write and read every last word!
Get ready for the hysteria and meltdown. Newsweak published a poll today claiming it is all over. Everyone hates the Republicans over Foley, Democrats are going to win 1000 seats we Conservative can all just stay home election day because Newsweak poll shows the game is over.
It pure BS, they withheld their Internals to indicate how many Dems-Reps-Indies they polled and when they polled them but it doesn't matter. The Chicken Littles are having hysterics. Sorry but I guess we are going to find a 50%D-30R-20 "Indepentent" split on this once the pros get done dismateling it. It makes no sense to suggest as many as 1/3 of Republicans are bying the Foley smear job.
If so many Republicans were upset about this and felt this way you would see it here. SOME % of Freepers would be reflecting the attitutes Newsweak is claiming their pollsters are finding. NO one is. Virtually overnight the breech in the Repubulican base has been sealed. Everyone is focused on why they hate the Dems NOT what they are upset with President Bush and the Leadership about.
I believe that is correct. Notwithstanding that this is a "conservative" board, I have seen over time that the spectrum of comments and attitudes, when you weed out the trolls, is pretty reflective of the Republican party generally. If this Foley thing was working at all, we would see it here. LOL. Julie Banderas just called the Phelps woman an "airtime whore." Just thougt I'd mention it.
Gee, Johnnie, I thought it was all over last week, the week before that and each week before that. For months now, Newsweek and others have been telling us it's all over.
I posted this earlier to Congressman Billy Bob. Frankly, I'm in bragging mode right now because of the comparison between Democrats and Republicans. My efforts now is to get the word out to voters here.
By the way, polls are not done so quickly. My guess is these polls are based on gut, initial reactions and not the true positions of voters once they have the facts and understand the situation. We just can't fall for the hype and we have to let it develop for a week or so before there will be any real indication on voter attitudes. Remember too, almost all these antics backfire on Democrats.
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I realize the media spin and Democrat accusations but the Foley debacle should be a source of pride for every Republican.
We had an issue and it was dealt with. Rep. Foley resigned and the House Speaker is taking steps to counter this happening again. The Ethics Committee has gotten involved for developing the facts in this case and the FBI has the information to pursue it if there was anything done that was illegal.
Is there any, ANY, question that had Foley been a Democrat they would still be circling the wagons in protecting Foley and calling any criticism homophobia. The Democrats are shameless and for the next thirty days they will be proving that to every voter.
I agree with you, Morgan. I am proud of the Republicans too. It should be pretty clear to most people now that sick perverts are not going to be welcomed by the party if they are found out. I have long heard rumors about the promising Kasich and Scarborough being told to get out after certain ugly behavior came to light. It was done quietly, so the modus operandi is not to destroy lives, just to drum you out quietly.
As for the page program, what is it that they are going to "fix?" They are only in loco parentis when actuall in the program. Foley waited until after they left the program to start up his contacts. And there is no evidence he stepped over the line with the minor. The ugly IMs were with an adult male. The page program merely brought those might be of interest to him to his attention. So, do they eliminate the program? Nah, too much a payoff to the politically connected parents. Do they forbid contact between congresspeople and pages and former pages? Getting connected is a very large part of why they do this in the first place. I think I have the answer. Pages will sign a document where they promise to report any icky contacts from any of them at any time. Heh heh. I wonder what foolproof measures the committee will proudly announce with "we have saved the children" flourishes.
Washington, D.C. is a ridiculous place full of ridiculous people. No wonder President Bush doesn't fit in. (End of need to put down random musings.)
Nothing unless it is not working as it should or being monitored properly. These pages may be of legal age but congress should hold them accountable to the extent they are capable or vulnerable. Having said that, I am guessing the IM programs and e-mail system has to be explained better to both pages and House members. They need to know without any doubt they are being monitored and their messages saved (if that is now available with IM) in case there is a future problem. We also need consequences for any page that does not report improper behavior or who pulls an improper stunt themselves.
IF the pages were simply pulling a prank maybe they did not know the seriousness of their stunt. If they did this on purpose, they should pay a price. If they did not report bad behavior, they were wrong. If they did not report either improper IM messages or e-mail, they were wrong. I'm saying both policy and management has to be there. Pages, as well as House members, have to be constantly reminded they will be held accountable for their actions and are responsible for whatever they do or don't do.
It may be there or it may need changed. Policy and procedures have to be in place and enforced. Whatever is done when they are back home is their problem unless it comes to the attention of the leadership and reflects upon the US House.
Look, I'm not excusing any of these guys. I think the emphasis has to be on better management by the leadership, that's all. I believe Speaker Hastert's explanations and I do not think he did anything wrong other than having tougher standards in place. I'm also realistic enough to know this whole thing might have not been preventable if the people involved were intent on causing the problem and issue. But, if that's the case, I hope they are charged and jailed for their actions if it harmed the US House or its members.
Too long an answer but I'm not sure how to shorten it.
We are currently winning in Iraq right now. Problem is thanks to the Junk Media and the Treason of the Democrat Party Leadership most Americans have no clue how well the mission is actually going.
It is incredibly odd how Democrats, via their mouthpieces in the Junk Media, demand a level of perfection in Military operations that NO Journalist or Politician could ever live up to in their own professional spheres. Odd how Americans, who live with a very high level of incompetent in their government, their media, their day to day lives are so surprised and upset to discover war does work on a perfectly flawless time table. They seem to think war sould work like their two hour Hollywood action movies told them it did. 2 Hours, bad guys dead, sympathy frag of supporting actor, hero gets girl and lives happily ever after. These absurd expectations explain how it is Americans get "war weary" so very very rapidly. It is one of the biggest Achilles heels of US Foreign Policy. Our foes count on us getting bored with it all and just going home. I guess we could call it the America's Policy Attention Deficit Disorder.
Counter Terrorism (or Counter Insurgency) is as much about politics as it is about war. Conventional Military often find them incredibly frustrating because they are usually a case of 3 steps forward, 2 steps back, pause, repeat. Conventional Military people think in terms of go there, kill them, wreck their stuff, make them stop pissing us off. Counter Insurgency does not work that way. Counter Insurgency works by making the local political structure strong enough to contain or beak the Insurgency. THAT is a slow painful process.
It is made a lot hard in Iraq by the hyper negative Media coverage and excessive nonsense spewed out by Domestic Politicians using the war because they think it will help them politically. I suspect that if we win Nov 7th, the Iraq mission is won. By 2009 the Iraqis political structure will be strong enough to stand on its own with minimal US support. Probably Iraq security forces stiffened with US SOF support teams.
Opps typo, in 1st line Police should be Policy
I look forward to your posting this every week...thanks so much. Have to LOL at it.
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