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Conservatives stick with Schwarzenegger
AP - Contra Costa Times ^ | Oct. 03, 2006 | LAURA KURTZMAN

Posted on 10/03/2006 3:30:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl

GARDEN GROVE, Calif. - Gelia Crayton is the picture of conservative California. She worships at the Crystal Cathedral, Orange County's gleaming megachurch. She opposes abortion and gay marriage. And she thinks illegal immigration is the scourge of the state.

Crayton's views are at odds with the moderate stance Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has promoted as he seeks re-election.

Yet on a recent Sunday after church services, the 58-year-old real estate agent pledged to stay loyal to the governor "until he says, 'Taxes are going to go up and welcome illegals.'"

Crayton's pragmatism helps explain how Schwarzenegger has consolidated his party's support this year, even as he has flouted many of its core beliefs.

He has angered social conservatives by hiring a lesbian Democrat as his chief of staff and signing a number of bills related to gay rights, including one that will let registered domestic partners file joint state income tax returns.

He also has upset fiscal conservatives by working with legislators to put the biggest bond package in California history - $37.3 billion - on the November ballot. And he crossed the business lobby by agreeing to raise the minimum wage, force prescription drug companies to offer discounts and cap greenhouse gas emissions.

Despite all this, 82 percent of likely Republican voters in the state said they will vote for Schwarzenegger in November, according to a poll released last week by the Public Policy Institute of California.

That survey and a Field Poll also released last week showed him with a double-digit lead over his Democratic challenger, state Treasurer Phil Angelides. One had Schwarzenegger 17 points ahead, the other 10 points.

In truth, Republican voters have nowhere else to go; no major Republican candidate has come forward to challenge Schwarzenegger from the right. Of course, GOP conservatives could stay home on Election Day. But Schwarzenegger has sought to counter that by portraying Angelides as a tax-and-spend liberal.

Those tactics may be working.

Crayton's fiance, real estate investor Ken Sheppard, for example, has been angry at some of the things the governor has done this year, particularly his reluctance to comply with President Bush's request to send National Guard troops to the border with Mexico. But Sheppard said he is supporting Schwarzenegger - and working phone banks for the GOP ticket - for fear of the Democratic alternative.

"If the other side were going to win, we would be hit with higher taxes for years and years and years," he said. "It's not like voting for Arnold. It's voting against Angelides."

Schwarzenegger's move toward the political middle may be a political necessity in California, where Democrats outnumber Republicans by 1.3 million voters. Some Republicans seem to realize that, and are willing to give Schwarzenegger a pass.

Crayton said she believes Schwarzenegger, who supports abortion rights, is "playing politics" on abortion, and she wishes he were tougher on immigration. But she rationalizes his actions as necessary to cope with the pressure he gets at home.

"He's got certain concessions he's got to make because he's got a family life, too," she said, referring to Schwarzenegger's wife, Maria Shriver, a Democrat and a member of the Kennedy clan.

Her friend Ruth Daugherty, who also worships at the Crystal Cathedral, excused the governor's moderate stand on immigration - and even his reluctance to send the National Guard to the border - as a concession to political reality in a state where Democrats dominate.

"I think he's doing the best he can," said Daugherty, 73, a retired banker who lives in Irvine, "because he can't be as vocal about it as we are and get elected."

To be sure, Schwarzenegger has been attacked from the right, particularly on immigration.

"He's not a Republican and you know that," KFI talk radio host John Ziegler told Schwarzenegger's campaign manager recently. "Because you know a real Republican can't win statewide, so you and Maria have orchestrated this move to the left. Congratulations, but don't deny it. Take credit for it."

Still, while many voters are angry about illegal immigration, many do not blame the governor.

"It's not Arnold's fault," said Ken Mummert, 66, who was eating lunch at Costco in the Riverside County town of Temecula. "Immigration's been a problem that's been going on a long time."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angelides; calgov2006; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 10/03/2006 3:30:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Just remove the `t' from "stick".


2 posted on 10/03/2006 3:33:21 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: calcowgirl

Ugh. SchwartzenKennedy.

I suppose I will hold my nose and vote for him.

But I'm really getting sick and tired of voting for crap that smells a little less vomitous than the other crap. sigh.


3 posted on 10/03/2006 3:34:06 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: calcowgirl; abigail2; al baby; Bella_Bru; BenLurkin; Blue Champagne; Bob J; boris; Brad's Gramma; ..

SoCal ping


4 posted on 10/03/2006 3:35:25 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: calcowgirl

He annoys me, but sadly he's better than the Dem alternative.

I won't vote for him, but I can't claim any real courage of my convictions, since I'm pretty sure it won't even be close. I didn't vote for him last time, I went for McClintock, but I did it knowing Arnold would win easily, so my vote was merely symbolic.

Sadly. McClintock would be a great governor in any normal state, but here he could never get elected.


5 posted on 10/03/2006 3:36:56 PM PDT by marron
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To: calcowgirl
"It's not like voting for Arnold. It's voting against Angelides."

Bingo!

6 posted on 10/03/2006 3:40:46 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: calcowgirl

Ziegler (see story) pretty much nailed it in his quoted comment.

Barring some late-breaking scandal, it's in the bag for two reasons: (1) Arnold ran left during the past year, plus (2) the Dems foolishly nominated an uncharismatic leftist, Red Phil Angelides, instead of the more-electable Steve Westly.

If Arnold were to resign after re-election, would the Lt. Gov. serve the rest of the term, or serve only as long as it took to hold a special election for a successor?


7 posted on 10/03/2006 3:44:20 PM PDT by pogo101
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If Arnold were to resign after re-election, would the Lt. Gov. serve the rest of the term, or serve only as long as it took to hold a special election for a successor?

The Lt. Gov. would serve the full term.

8 posted on 10/03/2006 3:58:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

A special election might be held to replace the Lt. Governor though. Do you see it that way?


9 posted on 10/03/2006 4:02:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I looked it up in the Constitution once, but I forget.

I think there is a specific succession for both Governor and Lt. Governor (Senate Pro Tem, Assy Speaker, Secretary of State). In other words, if Schwarzenegger and Bustamante were in a deadly plane crash, we would have Governor Perata. (UGH) If Perata was also on the plane, we would have Governor Nunez. (double UGH)


10 posted on 10/03/2006 4:18:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: VictoryGal

I had determined I was not going to vote for Schwarzenegger because of his signing that assinine global warming bill. But then when Angelides started running ads tying Schwarzenegger to Bush and showing him campaigning to get the president re-elected in 2004, I decided to let Angelides' cowardly commercials have their opposite intended effect on me and will now vote for Arnold because of his support for the president. So stick it in your arse Phil! Next time, wake up and realize you're running against Schwarzenegger, not George W. Bush.


11 posted on 10/03/2006 4:19:36 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: calcowgirl
"If the other side were going to win, we would be hit with higher taxes for years and years and years," he said.

Mr. Sheppard is not very knowledgeable about the constitutional process in California. Ken doesn't sound like a conservatives who are generally better informed. He sounds more like a wannabee conservative; a Republican.

12 posted on 10/03/2006 4:21:43 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

AP found three people to quote that would support a headline they wanted to publish.
Overall, they sound misinformed (or sorely uninformed).


13 posted on 10/03/2006 4:33:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
The Lt. Gov. would serve the full term.

Just dreaming. Maybe Arnold will win but step aside for McClintock (who's ahead of Garamendi ...) prior to 2010, thus giving McC some "power of incumbency." I doubt this, of course, but McClintock will have a tough battle for Gov. in 2010, and any advantage in this left-leaning state will help.

14 posted on 10/03/2006 4:54:51 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for the response.


15 posted on 10/03/2006 5:05:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: VictoryGal

It's called trangulation. However I will have to hold my nose and vote for Arnold. The other clown is a complete disaster.


16 posted on 10/03/2006 5:16:02 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: calcowgirl
"no major Republican candidate has come forward to challenge Schwarzenegger from the right."

Well, heck no! The Riordan, Firestone, Wilson, Sundheim gang saw to it that the Republican Primary Election was totally prempted this year by endorsing Arnold nearly a year before hand!!!

The best that CA Conservatives can hope for is a McClintock victory over the disgusting Garamendi!!!

17 posted on 10/03/2006 6:09:37 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: Parley Baer
It's called trangulation.

A fancy word for capitulating and adopting principles of the opposite party.

18 posted on 10/03/2006 6:17:37 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SierraWasp
The best that CA Conservatives can hope for is a McClintock victory over the disgusting Garamendi!!!

I'm hoping for some more of the downticket longshots to make some more ground in the next few weeks to join McClintock in victory!

19 posted on 10/03/2006 6:38:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Parley Baer; calcowgirl
"It's called trangulation."

And triangulation has nothing to do with the three cornered hats our founding fathers wore... right? That's what I thought. To me, triangulation is for pointy head Liberals and Academics!!! Phhhhhhhhhhhhhhht!!!

20 posted on 10/03/2006 7:04:08 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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