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Mexican Military Conducting Overflights of Oaxaca City--Prelude to Armed Intevention? (Translation)
El Universal ( Mexico City ) ^ | September 30, 2006 | Jorge Octavio Ochoa ( translated by self )

Posted on 09/30/2006 5:06:24 PM PDT by StJacques

Helicopters Flying Over Oaxacan Encampments

Due to the presence of Navy forces in the airspace of the zone where protestors of the teacher's union and APPO are located, a maximum alert is decreed; warning that a dislocating operation may be carried out tonight

Jorge Octavio Ochoa/Correspondent

El Universal
Oaxaca City, Oaxaca
Saturday 30 September 2006

5:00 p.m. At 4:30 p.m., two Navy helicopters flew through the airspace over the center of Oaxaca City; at 4:50 and 5:00 p.m. new overflights appeared, apparently in reconnaisance.

From La Ley radio, the Popular Assembly of the People of Oaxaca (APPO) called for a total alert. At the same time they asked their members for prudence and calm. "It is not the deciding moment for us. What the PFP [Federal Preventive Police] and Ulises [Oaxacan Governor Ulises Ruiz] want is to provoke a stampede."

In this sense, they made a call to strengthen their mechanisms of vigilance, reiterating that the logic of the operation is to spread fear.

Furthermore, they mentioned that the dislocating operation would begin today, around 8:00 p.m., and it would occur from two flanks: one on the highway that goes in the direction of Mexico City and another on the encampments erected in the center of the Oaxacan city.

Flavio Sosa, one of the directors of APPO, called on all its members to mobilize and carry out a march around the Zocalo capital plaza [in the center of Oaxaca City].

In a telephone conversation, Omar Flavio Sosa, asked the governmental representative, Francisco Yañez Centeno: Is this the governmental response?"

The government functionary responded that the flights are only dealing with reconnaisance or vigilance.

Even so, Flavio Sosa expressed his doubts: "I believe not, but they will stain Fox's hands with blood if they undertake these operations."

The Navy helicopters, one of them with the call letters AMMLT-200, also crossed the airspace where the broadcast antennas of La Ley radio are found, which is the only one which continues transmitting APPO's statements, now that Radio Oro left the air yesterday afternoon due to supposed technical faults.

From the kiosk of this city, the directorate of APPO began the burning of fires to decree anew the maximum alert.



TOPICS: Front Page News; Mexico
KEYWORDS: appo; appotrans; immigration; left; mexico; negotiations; oaxaca; oaxacacity; prd; protests; ruiz; segob; stjtranslation; ulisesruiz
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I don't know if this is just intimidation or the first steps towards a full retaliation against the Oaxacan leftist protestors who have held control of the state capital city since late May or perhaps a partial seizure of portions of the city. But the Mexican federal government may be at the end of its patience.

I refer you all to my 5:07 p.m. (Central) post on another thread in which I gauged that "a real calamity" was about to ensue. You can read what I posted there to get up to date if you need more information.


1 posted on 09/30/2006 5:06:27 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...

ping


2 posted on 09/30/2006 5:07:06 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

I'm hoping this all comes out OK, but am fearing a major catastrophe. I have been to Oaxaca several times. For me, it has been a magic place.

I am so sad over what's happening. There are beautiful people there. Pray for them.


3 posted on 09/30/2006 5:09:47 PM PDT by EdJay
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To: EdJay
". . . There are beautiful people there. Pray for them."

Yes there are beautiful people there Ed. But there are also PRD activists who are intent upon setting an example in Oaxaca they can use to undermine the legitimacy of Felipe Calderon. Those PRD activists do not care about beautiful people at all. They are all about destroying their enemies. The Left in Latin America can never take it when someone stands up to them.
4 posted on 09/30/2006 5:14:44 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

I would not blame the govt for taking armed action. These people are basically in rebellion.

I don't think they will go in shooting, though. This is not the government that massacred students in 1968. The faction that did that are the leftist "protestors" of the last several months.


5 posted on 09/30/2006 5:17:05 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: StJacques; Admin Moderator
What is it with you and the mods putting your news forum updates in Bloggers and Personal. I would have thought that after your last episode and ensuing elegant defense of why it should remain in the news forum (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1697366/posts?page=14#14) that it would not happen again. Of course if you asked that it be posted in Bloggers, then I apologize to the Admin Moderator.
6 posted on 09/30/2006 5:43:12 PM PDT by CedarDave (VietNam Vet Remembers -- This Time ... SUPPORT the Troops, COMPLETE the Mission)
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To: CedarDave; Admin Moderator; conservative in nyc; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; ...
This post was put on News/Activism and it does not belong on Bloggers & Personal. To this date I have never received any explanation as to why these posts have been moved. They are genuine news articles up on the web whose content has been translated for an English-speaking audience. ABC News has been reporting the Oaxacan situation on their evening news broadcasts and CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC have all covered it as well both on TV and on their web sites.

Admin Moderator, could you please give us an explanation as to why this was moved? This is at least the third time and no explanation has ever been offered.
7 posted on 09/30/2006 5:47:19 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: CedarDave

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1697366/posts?page=14#14


8 posted on 09/30/2006 5:48:55 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar ("Being nice will get us killed")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thank you for that; I noticed and was about to link it directly also.


9 posted on 09/30/2006 5:50:55 PM PDT by CedarDave (VietNam Vet Remembers -- This Time ... SUPPORT the Troops, COMPLETE the Mission)
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To: CedarDave

You bet.


10 posted on 09/30/2006 5:52:06 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar ("Being nice will get us killed")
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To: StJacques; Admin Moderator
To: StJacques

Yes, and it qualifies as News far more than most threads.

7 posted on 09/07/2006 4:32:52 PM MDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)

To: StJacques; Admin Moderator

If I may join in here. poster StJacques has spent a lot of time translating articles and posting them on FreeRepublic, and not as a personal blog, but as an ahead of the curve effort. There is nothing "cesspool" about what he has been doing.

8 posted on 09/07/2006 4:35:12 PM MDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)

To: StJacques; Admin Moderator
Thanks for your hard work on the translations.

Yes, this should be moved back to news - it's not a blog or anyone's personal opinion, but an original translation of a Spanish-language article on the Mexican election, which some FReepers have been following.

Unfortunately, most of us don't read Spanish as well as StJacques and wouldn't be able to follow the story by clicking on the link. The U.S. MSM has been largely ignoring the story, which has potential implications here if the situation in Mexico gets worse.
9 posted on 09/07/2006 4:36:05 PM MDT by conservative in nyc

To: StJacques
With great respect towards those in charge at FR, I do agree with you.

You have been translating for us the various Mexican papers to keep us apprised of what could end up being the next Mexican revolution.

You are NOT taking us to your personal blog and just because you are acting as a translator for us, there is no reason IMO to consider your deliveries of these important articles and issues as your own blog/comment on the issues.

I think you have been translating with maybe a comment or two after the issue is posted. You have not to my knowledge been posting your opinion as translation...

I think FR doesn't see a lot of this, so maybe they did not know how to handle this, but IMO this is the most BREAKING of Breaking News.

There is a potential Mexican Revolution breaking out IMO.

Keep up the good work and thanks for you efforts to keep us informed.
10 posted on 09/07/2006 4:46:46 PM MDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)

11 posted on 09/30/2006 5:55:41 PM PDT by CedarDave (VietNam Vet Remembers -- This Time ... SUPPORT the Troops, COMPLETE the Mission)
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To: CedarDave; jveritas
Are Jveritas's translations of found Iraqi documents being subjugated to bloggers?

It is also big news and useful.
12 posted on 09/30/2006 5:59:22 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar ("Being nice will get us killed")
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To: Jet Jaguar; CedarDave
I would just like an explanation as to what is going on here. I submit that there is a large enough group supporting our watch on the Latin American Left to justify what we are doing as important.

I am asking as a gentleman to receive that explanation.
13 posted on 09/30/2006 6:02:09 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques; CedarDave; TigerLikesRooster; Admin Moderator

Tiger also fits the bill.

Tiger translates Korean and Chinese news.

Are Tigers' posts pushed into bloggers?

They are not.


14 posted on 09/30/2006 6:06:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar ("Being nice will get us killed")
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To: StJacques
Thanks for another timely post and translation. I might somewhat disagree that the PRD is behind this. Gov. Ramerez was elected with a very, very suspiously narrow margin over a PRD-PAN-Convergencia candidate in 2004 in an election marked by fraud ... and theater of the absurd (the outgoing Gov. staged a fake assasination attempt that he could blame on "leftist revolutionaries" that backfired, and got himself wounded for real). The "far left" and the "far right" both despise the state administration and accuse it of robbery and abuse of power.

The APPO seems to include other elements, like Zapatistas and indigenous groups (usually associated with PRI), as well as teachers and community groups.

Still, I'd say PRD is probably the most organized of the opposition groups, and probably is prominent in this opposition movement.

There was a serious incident last week when shots were fired -- apparently by the Governor's body guards -- at protesters who'd entered a hotel where the Gov. was holed up, and a prominent reporter (Ricardo Rocha of El Universal) was roughed up by...??? The APPO and PRD suggest the hooligans were military, given their discipline, youth and haircuts. There's a history of Mexican authorities using military units in civilian clothing to act as provacateurs during civil demonstations (justifying police intervention), so the story has some legs.

In other Mexican news, the teachers are still heading for Mexico City and the Fox Administration is looking to negotiate a settlement. I think the military fly-over was a "not so friendly reminder" of who gets to make the decisions... but I wouldn't be suprised to see Gov. Ramarez resign and an interim goveror from a minor party, or a "Mr. Clean" PRI figurehead to be appointed until the next election cycle. Maybe Dulce Maria Suares, who has a weird reputation as an honest PRI leader.

I had an email today from an artist friend in Oaxaca. The tourists aren't back, but everything's functioning despite the disturbances... and everyone is bending over backwards to make sure foreigners are unmolested.

15 posted on 09/30/2006 6:29:57 PM PDT by rpgdfmx
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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...
On the moving of the threads . . .

Check your Freepmail and do not discuss its content on the board. I think this has reached a point where I must ask for an explanation.
16 posted on 09/30/2006 6:35:22 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques; Admin Moderator

I must say this issue is central to Americans in the War on Terror. I cannot imagine why it would be placed in Bloggers & Personal.

This is legitimate news.


17 posted on 09/30/2006 6:39:51 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: StJacques

We're back into f-news.

We will have to see what happens from here on out.

In the menatime, thanks again. This is very important to the US (more than most FReepers realize).


18 posted on 09/30/2006 6:54:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: EdJay

Oaxaca is one our favorite places in Mexico, too. Hope this uprising can be put down...


19 posted on 09/30/2006 7:36:43 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: jimtorr

Yes, the government should take action. They are trying to stir up trouble. Oaxaca is an easy place to stir up, I suspect. We drove south from there towards Chiapas and ran into a burning-tires-road-block guarded by armed guards. Guerillas. Pretty unstable down that way.


20 posted on 09/30/2006 7:58:30 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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