Time to talk [Time to PUKE]

Idiot Acharonot ^ | Sept. 21, 2006 | Lee "IQ in the negative numbers" Marsden

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[Alouette]

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[Slings and Arrows]

"Mooky?"

[EveningStar]

Another member of the Neville Chamberlain crowd steps forward.

[siunevada]

The time has come to start talking directly to leaders of antagonistic governments and organisations

The Iranians would love to be there but, according to the British FM, they have tremendous 'logistical difficulties' hindering their ability to make their appointments to sit down and talk.

[Tokra]

In attempting to portray conflicts in the region as between good and evil, freedom and terrorism, democrats and “Islamo-fascists”, debate is closed down and opportunities for engagement rejected.

No, idiot - when Iran threatens to "wipe Israel off the map" and Islamofascists say they don't want to "get along" with us, they want to kill us - THEN "debate is closed down and opportunities for engagement rejected."

[cousair]

PUKE Indeed!! It seems the "can't keep his mouth shut" Clinton made a statement this a.m. that he couldn't see any reason why the President couldn't talk with the "mullahs"!! I would like someone here to tell me just how many MULLAHs Clinton talked to when the attacks on our country happened time and time again with NO response from the CLINTONS WH./

[ArGee]

By stigmatising organisations such as Hizbullah and Hamas as terrorist, which have legitimately built their reputations on extensive social welfare provision and a lack of corruption, there is no longer a necessity to respect their constituencies and democratic mandates.

I understand Hitler took very good care of the German (Aryan) people. Just because he sent trainloads of Jews off to death camps is no reason to call him a monster, is it?

Shalom.

[siunevada]

The U.S. needs to "enter into direct talks with Hamas about resuming financial assistance"?

Really? Why do we "need" this?

How about some encouraging words regarding self sufficiency? You can do it, we know you can! (Did those greenhouses get rebuilt yet?)

[End Times Sentinel]

I just wish I could give the whole world a great big hug and then everything would be okay again.

(...sniff...)

[goldstategop]

Lee Marsden's brain must have been AWOL when he wrote the article. Its full of sentimental mush, clap trap and all the usual liberal buzz about "conflict resolution," "understanding our differences," "negotiation" and "dialogue." All of which does not begin comprehend the nature of the enemy. Marsden embraces the moral relativism of our time, which puts democracies and dictatorships on the same moral place. Much less does he comprehend the Islamofascists are not interest in co-existence with the West; they want to replace it with the superior civilization of Islam. Make no mistake: if Marsden and his ilk have it their way, we will all get killed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[goldstategop]

If someone wants to kill you, what is the point of talking to that person? Marsden can be an idiot. Would he be willing to talk his own murderer?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Mad Dawg]

Work with me here, Bro Marsden:

Iran invaded our embassy in violation of international law, took people under diplomatic protection hostage, held them for 444 days, and never repudiated those acts, but rather made one of the perps president.

Back in late '01 or early '02 a Pakistani mullah said,"Just one American soldier on Pakistani soil and we will send American diplomats packing, some without heads."

With a track record like that, I might consider giving these bozos a phone call, but I sho' ain't getting in the same room for tea and biscuits with them. Let them come to me, submit to a strip-search and body cavity search and medical quarantine for 6 months, THEN I'll talk.

Maybe.

[goldstategop]

And so did the Soviets. Liberals apparently see only what they want to see. They seem incapable of appreciate the simple truth that our enemies want to wipe us out. Sometimes the world IS really black and white. Its not all shades of gray, however Marsden and the rest of Left would desperately like it to be.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[goldstategop]

Yes, why not have them take responsibility for their own lives? But the Left feels Arabs are incapable of living without Western benovelance so in giving aid to tyrants they end up perpetuating the very conditions of hopelessness and despair they want to change.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[ArGee]

And so did the Soviets.

You are so right.

Henry Kissinger seemed to think that we should treat other nations based on how they treated us, not their own people. However, history has shown that how they treat their own people previews how they will treat us if they can.

Bottom line - morality matters.

Shalom.

[Richard Axtell]

Pure fraud. Saddam Hussein's 35 year career as the Stalin of Iraq cost that country approximately 7 to 8 million lives, according to population studies by the National Geographic Society. Evidence of the sheer numbers of the massacred and systematically tortured Islamic people of Iraq has been either ignored or soft pedaled by opponents of the Bush Doctrine. Regularly ignored are the many mass graves that contain at least 300,000 murdered civilians, victims of the Hussein regime.

The 70,000 dead mentioned here are victims of the same people, Saddam's henchmen and his Islamo-fascist allies. But to oppose and actually do something about this ongoing genocide is a crime in the eyes of anti-American leftists like the author here. This man has the blood of future victims on his hands, if he gets his way and the US reverts to the failed Clinton policies of appeasement, inaction, and self-delusion regarding the Islamo-facist threat to civilization.

70,000 lives lost is a mere skirmish in what is rapidly coming to be a world war for the very survival of Western Civilization, and the author is on the very wrong side of that future.

[weegee]

By stigmatising organisations such as Hizbullah, Hamas, there is no longer necessity to respect their constituencies, democratic mandates

The rest of the world is still in a quandry over whether Hezbollah and Hamas ARE terrorist organizations.

Lions Gate Films had no problems with Hezbollah doing promotion for Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 in Lebanon.

The enemy walks among us. They have NO MORAL COMPASS.

They would have sympathized with Nazi Germany and Stalin's USSR.

[Indomitable_Briton]

Winston Churchill famously said that “jaw jaw is better than war war”
Yes, that is true generally. However, there are other Churchill quotes that are more appropriate for the current situation. Where to start.....

[GoLightly]

Mardsen talks out of both sides of his mouth. Democracy in the ME is bad, but we are supposed to support bad choices when they are the result of democracy. I don't think he understands the concept of carrots and sticks.

Meanwhile, a quote from Goldwater came to my mind...

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"