OWNED!!
Posted on 09/07/2006 9:06:20 AM PDT by Dane
Ah. I see.
You are "promoting the democrat party notion of restricting supply."
Now this thread is getting buchanan silly, next thing you know, you will be saying inhaling diesel fumes in a confined space is not dangerous(ala buchanan).
If the borders were secure, this wouldn't be an issue.
I work in construction all over the country and there are many contractors that feel like this guy.
Uh I ain't the one promoting a restirction of the supply of labor(ala labor unions, democrat party, etc.etc).
You are.
BTW, Reagan economics were also called "supply economics" for a reason.
OWNED!!
TOUCHE' BUMP!
Like someone living on credit cards, illegal immigration (in the form of cheap wages) has been popular everywhere it crops up until the bills start coming due. Hopefully, people have learned this time around that it's better to pay 25-50-100% more in labor costs rather than experience what many communities throughout the US are finally beginning to confront.
Yawwwwnnnn. That is so six months ago.
As the lending bubble unwinds, American construction workers will find jobs harder to come by. Who do you suppose they will look at in order to limit supply to American workers for those limited jobs available?
Sounds like he should raise his pay rate.
Yep.
Your obsession with Buchanan is REALLY unhealthy. Perhaps you should consider seeking a professional mental health practitioner to resolve this issue.
No no no, You don't understand PEOPLE are either entertained couch potatoes or the Laboring Class. No one who has Nice toys has them because they work for them. Get it right. /senate
This is a clue, DANE. People on Free Republic do not accept Marxist economic stereo types as being connected to reality in any way let alone a valid way.
But, you are. You admitted that you do not favor open borders so that anyone in the world can enter and work.
That's a restriction on the supply of labor.
Between ourselves and subcontractors working for us we expect project payrolls to go up by thousands of workers over the next year just to handle two to four year projects just now being awarded. Construction trade work in commercial is ramping up, not down.
Yeah, Buchanan is an idiot... but, geez, what's your beef? Did he run over your cat?
"We've been told (the database) is only 80 percent correct," Gould said.
If (for example) law-abiding citizens were being denied CCW permits because of errors in the background check database, and the government tried to shurg and say "well, it's only 80% accurate and you just have to deal with it), there would be a dozen 1000+-post flame threads on this forum.
Although Gould said his company checks people's documents as a condition of employment to make sure they are legal immigrants, it's a matter of simple math to realize that many of them are probably living in this country illegally.
This "simple math" argument is equivalent to declaring (for example) that because such-and-such a percentage of the male population commit rape, a large male gathering such as a Promise Keepers rally probably contains X number of rapists.
where he talks about checking documents, he isn't exaggerating. to complete the I-9 required for a legal hire you are required to accept a driver's license and a SS card. To not accept those, you are subject to a civil rights complaint for discrimination. And actually, the SS Admin says that the largest number of complaints filed are for just that, failing to accept documentation.
Additionally, the issues of forged or fraudulant documents aside, many illegals show up with one or both that are actually valid, but improperly issued.
So, if you submit someone to these verification services that ICE of the SSA are running, you can't fire them if they come back not listed. You may only make demands for further documents....and then you are on the bubble.
So what...You built your business based on the labor of the criminal element...It's time to downsize and work legally...Even if it cuts into your profits...You're lucky you're not in jail...You would be if I had my way...
Well I am an expert on the construction business, my father raised us by hanging drywall and my husband works in the residential homebuilding business. And yes he works in the heat,we live in Georgia. Up until about 10 years ago, there were very few illegals on job sites. Gee, I wonder how all those houses were built? Metro Atlanta is really big, ya know. Before we moved to Georgia, we lived in Hilton Head where my husband was a framer, where it's really hot and humid, and he'd have to be out in the baking sun all day. And guess what, ALL OF THE CONTRUCTION CREWS ON HILTON HEAD WERE OWNED AND OPERATED BY AMERICANS until DelWebb started to develop Sun City Hilton Head. It was DelWebb who contracted out of state and brought tons of illegals, who have yet to leave. The lovely illegals have ruined the outer neighborhoods. A good friend of mine literally lost all of her hair from the stress of trying to deal with a pro-illegal advocate, while trying to enforce their homeowners association rules. Thousands and thousands of dollars the homeowners had to pay to fight this women and her friends. I was just visiting them this summer, her neighborhood has turned into a slum. Back to construction, they are driving the small contractors out of business, I have 2 very good friends that are now looking for new careers because they can't bid as low as the Mexicans who share housing and expenses, both made a decent middle class livng until Georgia became saturated with illegals. Try living in the real world with the rest of us whose quality of life is being destroyed.
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