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Beyond Macaca: The Photograph That Haunts George Allen (The Nation Continues Attack)
The Nation ^ | 8/29/2006 | Max Blumenthal

Posted on 08/30/2006 1:56:05 PM PDT by Pyro7480

Beyond Macaca: The Photograph That Haunts George Allen

by MAX BLUMENTHAL

Barnstorming around Virginia in the re-election campaign that Republican Senator George Allen hopes will provide the impetus for his 2008 run for the presidency, he has suddenly been forced on the defensive. Time and again, he has felt compelled to explain that his mocking of S.R. Sidarth, a young Indian-American staff member for his Democratic opponent, as "macaca," or monkey, was an unintentional gaffe. "It was a mistake. I made a mistake," he told a reporter from a local NBC affiliate at a campaign stop on Thursday. Hours later, he told the ABC affiliate, "It was a mistake, I was wrong." On Fox News's Sean Hannity show, he echoed, "It was a mistake."

But was it an isolated "mistake"?

Only a decade ago, as governor of Virginia, Allen personally initiated an association with the Council of Conservative Citizens, the successor organization to the segregationist White Citizens Council and among the largest white supremacist groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenation.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allen; blahblahblah; ccc; georgeallen; intheirdreams; thenation; virginia; yawn
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The drive-by media made a mountain out of molehill concerning the "macaca" issue, but between this, and questions concerning Senator Allen's conservative credentials, is he now to be considered "damaged goods"?
1 posted on 08/30/2006 1:56:07 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480

And not a word on the KuKluxKlown Senator Byrd


2 posted on 08/30/2006 1:57:53 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Pyro7480

No.


3 posted on 08/30/2006 1:57:56 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Pyro7480
is he now to be considered "damaged goods"?

This is politics. If Allen can be taken out this early, he will be, because his enemies have no reason NOT to--would we go easy on a democrat if this kind of thing were in his past? No, nor should we.

If he can beat back this crap, he'll be in good shape. If not, why would we want him for a nominee?

4 posted on 08/30/2006 1:58:12 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Pyro7480

May backfire as his name recognition increases.


5 posted on 08/30/2006 1:58:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Pyro7480

So, theNation is picking on LaRaza again? Ooops. My mistake.


6 posted on 08/30/2006 1:58:33 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Rabid ethnicist.)
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To: Pyro7480

The uproar is itself a steaming pile of macaca. But it does appear he ain't too bright. Good man, bad judgment, trips over his words. We don't need another one.


7 posted on 08/30/2006 1:59:00 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (The War on Terror has now become the Democracy Project.)
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To: kaktuskid
And not a word on the KuKluxKlown Senator Byrd

Does that surprise you? This is The Nation, after all.

8 posted on 08/30/2006 1:59:01 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: kaktuskid

I know, I know. The "D" gives Byrd an immunity from his past. The SPLC is shameless.


9 posted on 08/30/2006 1:59:13 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480
Allen was always considered "damaged goods" by those concerned with his mother's Jewish ancestry. That's why his opposition are so outright nasty with their attack over nothing.

This current affair certainly puts the last nail in the coffin of the idea that his opponent, Obergrupenfuhrer Webb, was not the author of the antisemitic attack on his Democrat competitor in the primary this Summer.

This is going to get dirtier.

10 posted on 08/30/2006 1:59:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pyro7480

The media is a tool (Dean's roar). The people that want someone out of the picture just have to drop a dime and it is on.


11 posted on 08/30/2006 2:00:07 PM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: Pyro7480
Only a decade ago, as governor of Virginia, Allen personally initiated an association with the Council of Conservative Citizens, the successor organization to the segregationist White Citizens Council and among the largest white supremacist groups.

I await The Nation's call for Democrats to disassociate themselves from their Black Panther connnections in the past. No, I'm not holding my breath.

12 posted on 08/30/2006 2:00:28 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377
If not, why would we want him for a nominee?

The social conservatives have raised questions on Allen's pro-life credentials. He proudly owns stock in Barr Pharmeceuticals, the maker of the "Plan B" emergency contraception, and he has made questionable statements on the pro-life issue in the past.

13 posted on 08/30/2006 2:00:51 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: All

$1.00 U.S. says this photo was taken in a reception line at the NRA event for high dollar contributors and others who bought tickets at CPAC and that Allen and Heston had no idea who any of these guys were.


14 posted on 08/30/2006 2:01:09 PM PDT by PDR
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To: Pyro7480

What? Is KKKleagle leader Byrd in the picture?


15 posted on 08/30/2006 2:01:26 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: kaktuskid
And not a word on the KuKluxKlown Senator Byrd

Oh, he was merely the Senate Majority Leader for 12 years...

16 posted on 08/30/2006 2:01:42 PM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: kaktuskid

You raise a fair question, but I have no doubt the left will make a lame attempt to rationalize the lionization of the ex-Klansman Byrd with, "but he's not running for president!!!"
Yet, they have no problem with him being senator. Their hypocrisy is astonishing.

Kaktuskid had written:
"And not a word on the KuKluxKlown Senator Byrd"


17 posted on 08/30/2006 2:04:22 PM PDT by Pontifus Maximus
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Macacca means nothing. Macaque is a primate.


18 posted on 08/30/2006 2:06:00 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Pyro7480
The Nation continues to wallow in the Macaca. I say let them. And every time they bring up this issue with Allen, all we have to do is make them read the following:

"Sounds like ol' Macaca needs to get his butt to Hymie-town and talk to some f***ing Jew bastard lawyers to see what his options are. If he strikes out there, he could always run a gas station or a 7-11. But then again, everyone always knew he was nothing but a white n*gg*r."

Pop quiz: Point out all the racially insensitive remarks above.

Extra credit: Tell us which public figure said them and their party affiliation.

Moral of the story: Remarks that are perceived to be racially insensitive only count when Republicans say them.
19 posted on 08/30/2006 2:09:34 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: Pyro7480

He should have called the guy a Hymie. That must be acceptable since that maca..., er, guy Jesse Jackson can say it.


20 posted on 08/30/2006 2:09:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Darkwolf377

"This is politics. If Allen can be taken out this early, he will be, because his enemies have no reason NOT to--would we go easy on a democrat if this kind of thing were in his past? No, nor should we."

So you are saying we should tolerate leftwing McCarthyite guilt-by-association attacks on GOP politicians, because ... well, because they happen anyway?

My #1 concern is that when we let the politics of presonal destruction work for liberals, they only lust for more of the same. It's very useful and helpful to defang these allegations so this strategy loses its power.

We need to make their allegations lose their power.

And btw, I've heard plenty of liberals call "Bushitler" a chimp and worse, deliberately and with malice aforethought,
so it hypocritical BS on their part to complain about it.

"If he can beat back this crap, he'll be in good shape"

And if not, the media will have their vultures for the other
candidates ... Divorced Guliani, Mormon Mitt Romney, mentally unstable McCain, etc.


21 posted on 08/30/2006 2:09:53 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Pyro7480
Search the word "Plame" on the Nation's website and you find 2 year's worth of Cheney/Rove/Libby being blamed for "outing" Plame. And now David Corn admits it was Armitage!

HA!

22 posted on 08/30/2006 2:10:25 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Pyro7480

He's damaged goods as much as Gingrich is.


23 posted on 08/30/2006 2:12:31 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (The Left hates America)
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To: pookie18; Pyro7480; kaktuskid

24 posted on 08/30/2006 2:12:33 PM PDT by edzo4
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To: Pyro7480

yawn. they can't make me hate this guy.


25 posted on 08/30/2006 2:13:29 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: Pyro7480
Max is the son of the smear monger, Sydney Blumenthal (the Clinton *ss kisser deluxe) and works for the lunatic David Brock at Media Matters, a Soros funded smear site, which is run by the confessed liar, former conservative author David Brock, who has admitted that he knowingly lied in his book about Anita Hill, and has apologized for his reporting on Bill Clinton's sexual misadventures.


Max Blumenthal is a freelance journalist in Washington, DC. His work has appeared in The Nation, Salon, The American Prospect and on Alternet.

He is a research fellow for Media Matters for America.

Max Blumenthal writes for The Nation and The Huffington Post.
26 posted on 08/30/2006 2:14:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Pyro7480
I wonder how they would handle this one:


27 posted on 08/30/2006 2:15:24 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The moving finger writes and, having writ, moves on......)
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To: Pyro7480

He's obviously not racist.
Scroll thru the photos yourself:

http://allen.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.PhotoAlbum&ImageGallery_id=94a49625-c04f-730a-03d7-15fd9a7ac429


28 posted on 08/30/2006 2:17:34 PM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: WOSG
So you are saying we should tolerate leftwing McCarthyite guilt-by-association attacks on GOP politicians, because ... well, because they happen anyway?

If this is an example of your reading comprehension, I'm not impressed.

I'm saying exactly the OPPOSITE. I'm saying the left isn't just going to sit on this stuff--neither would we if we had it on them--so it's up to him to FIGHT.

God, learn to read what someone actually writes instead of looking around for an opportunity to get on your high horse.

29 posted on 08/30/2006 2:18:00 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

OK who has the video clip of Fred Phelps and Bill Clinton?


30 posted on 08/30/2006 2:18:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Pyro7480

George Allen BUMP.

I'll support him if for no other reason than to stick a thumb in the eye of the communist media, which hounds conservatives when it thinks they have made a slip of the tongue (George Allen, Trent Lott, etc. ad nauseum) but are unconcerned with the likes of Jesse ("HymieTown") Jackson, Ray ("Chocolate City")Nagin, and all the rest of the left-wing figures it supports.


31 posted on 08/30/2006 2:18:29 PM PDT by reelfoot
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To: Pyro7480
Going after Allen because he attended a CPAC is a bunch of macaca.

But I have to say his handling of the whole macaca affair indicates to me he's not ready for prime time.

32 posted on 08/30/2006 2:18:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: kaktuskid

CCC was Disk Gephardt's group.


33 posted on 08/30/2006 2:19:06 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Pyro7480

Compared to Senator Byrd who has his own set of kkk sheets?


34 posted on 08/30/2006 2:19:53 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Pyro7480
The Rats and MSM are going to great lenghts to trash Sen. Allen.

I assume that they're afraid of him.

35 posted on 08/30/2006 2:21:18 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Darkwolf377

You are exactly right. Allen needs to show his toughness and fortitude now, and I think he will. I still don't see him losing to Little Jimmy Webb


36 posted on 08/30/2006 2:21:35 PM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: WOSG
Great point!

The Smirking Chimp is one of the main Bush-bashing sites on the web! Is it only racist to call a medium-toned Asian- Caucasian a monkey and not a light-skinned European one?

Their logo proudly mixes a monkey image and a bush image. Can't get much clearer than that.

And even more damning The Nation is linked directly from the racist Smirking Chimp site:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/links.php?op=viewlink&cid=7&min=60&orderby=titleA&show=10.

I await the denunciation of this racist site by the Nation editors and a request from their lawyers to remove this link!

37 posted on 08/30/2006 2:21:47 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: kaktuskid
And not a word on the KuKluxKlown Senator Byrd

I don't want him to say a word. It takes him 3 hours to read a 10 minute floor speech.

38 posted on 08/30/2006 2:22:27 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Antoninus

Good post.


39 posted on 08/30/2006 2:22:59 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: colorado tanker
Going after Allen because he attended a CPAC is a bunch of macaca.

Well, no, they're going after Allen because he's pictured with RACISTS.

40 posted on 08/30/2006 2:23:44 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: moose2004
Allen needs to show his toughness and fortitude now, and I think he will.

It is a GREAT opportunity being handed him. He should get on the tube and talk about the silly "controversies" and show how the left are trying to kill his candidacy in the crib. Not only will it show what he's made of, it will help his re-election chances. I mean, come ON, let's see some Republicans with some balls kicking back at these liberal [*]!

[*] I tried three different "clean" descriptions of them here, and failed. I'll go with "alternative lifestyle practitioners".

41 posted on 08/30/2006 2:24:32 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Charleton Heston a racist??? News to me.
42 posted on 08/30/2006 2:24:59 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Jack Black
The Smirking Chimp is one of the main Bush-bashing sites on the web! Is it only racist to call a medium-toned Asian- Caucasian a monkey and not a light-skinned European one?

It's also racist in their mind to call a hard working Guatemalan immigrant, "a good little Guatemalan".

43 posted on 08/30/2006 2:25:15 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: kaktuskid

Nor the famous antisemites Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.


44 posted on 08/30/2006 2:25:18 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: colorado tanker
Charleton Heston a racist??? News to me.

Me too.

45 posted on 08/30/2006 2:26:01 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: colorado tanker

Michael Moore made the allegation in Bowling For Columbine.


46 posted on 08/30/2006 2:26:11 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Darkwolf377

great points all around


47 posted on 08/30/2006 2:30:37 PM PDT by npg
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While I could care less about either issue the Nation is flogging my interest in Allen is flagging. I started off being interested in him, but having watched him speak he does (as someone else on the thread mentioned) seem rather inarticulate. I don't think we can win without another great communicator in 2008. There has been eight solid years of lies, propaganda and bullcrap directed at the republicans. A lot of Americans have been convinced the sky is green and the leaves are blue at this point.

It's going to take someone articulate and coherent to undo all that. A business as usual handler-directed candidate will not win from the Elephant side in '08. Thus I think we need to look further. McCain, not one of my favorites either, is at least good on camera and sounds like he knows what he's talking about most of the time.

Allen's "Jeffersonian/ Jacksonian" is a bizarre formulation. Like Bush's "compassionate conservatism" we don't know what it means. That's intentional. It's a semi-clever little tag line that has focus-group tested well, I imagine.

We're going to need a lot more than that to win. We deserve a lot more than another big-government Republican who is like "The Candidate". I'm not sure we can find that person, but I'm motivated to look beyond Allen.

48 posted on 08/30/2006 2:32:42 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Pyro7480
this guy is not a great candidate anyway

He is struggling for reelection, has some questionable votes as a Senator, and always has that goofy grin
49 posted on 08/30/2006 2:33:20 PM PDT by npg
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To: weegee
Well, there's an source for you. Just as solid as the guy who fingered John Karr as he JonBenet killer! :-)
50 posted on 08/30/2006 2:35:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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