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1 posted on 08/29/2006 12:08:33 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 08/29/2006 12:08:57 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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To: Alouette
I feel free to tell these faux journalists' to go to hell.
4 posted on 08/29/2006 12:15:00 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Alouette

In the view of these "journalists" everything from global warming to the kitten coughing up a hairball is "Israel's fault." Unless they're talking about Bush, then its all "Bush's fault." These "journalists" are probably still ticked off that their hotels ran out of Evian and Perrier.


5 posted on 08/29/2006 12:26:51 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: Alouette

"We are very disappointed that the IDF didn't give us more opportunities,"

How much more opportunity does the MSM want to start telling the truth?


6 posted on 08/29/2006 12:27:47 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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"All we can do is report what everyone's telling us."

So the terrorist can claim anything and the MSM will report it as fact? I have heard lame MSM excuses for their incompetence but nothing like this.
7 posted on 08/29/2006 12:30:52 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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"While other panelists said Hizbullah placed dictatorial control over colleagues reporting from Lebanon, Ernlanger maintained that the only threat faced by his own colleague in Lebanon was posed by "Israeli missiles." "

Translation: most media concedes Hezbollah dictated the news, but New York Times can't.


9 posted on 08/29/2006 1:02:35 PM PDT by Shermy (A louder mime)
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"Journalists' access to the battlefield is controlled exclusively by the IDF."

Really? How much access did the Hezzies and the Lebanese government give you, other than for fauxtography sessions?

"The question of whether Israel fought a 'proportional' war is not much of interest here (in Israel)."

No, it isn't. That's because never in the history of warfare has anyone ever heard of the concept of "proportional" war until you jerks in the MSM concocted it as "standard" for Israel to meet.

10 posted on 08/29/2006 1:03:58 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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"Pictures have been faked as long as there have been pictures," remarked the Times' Farrell, citing "commercial imperative" as a factor in the doctored images.

Funny how the faked photo's always seem to put Israel in a bad light.

No bias though.

/S

11 posted on 08/29/2006 1:15:45 PM PDT by RJL
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12 posted on 08/29/2006 2:01:35 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Alouette

"Journalists' access to the battlefield is controlled exclusively by the IDF," said Simon McGregor-Wood, Chairman of the Foreign Press Association, and Bureau Chief of ABC News."

In contrast to the free access to staged scenes Hezbollah promoted.

The charge of lack of proportion means - we would be happy if more Israelis died.


14 posted on 08/29/2006 2:28:16 PM PDT by dervish
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Check this out. NYT has serious issues in Israel.

consider this:

While other panelists said Hizbullah placed dictatorial control over colleagues reporting from Lebanon, Ernlanger maintained that the only threat faced by his own colleague in Lebanon was posed by "Israeli missiles."

Erlanger is The New York Times Jerusalem Bureau Chief. Steven

15 posted on 08/29/2006 3:12:41 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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New York Time's Jerusalem Bureau Chief, Steven Erlanger... lamented the lack of "proportionality" in the war....

That is, without a doubt, the most absurd thing I have ever heard. "Proportionality" in warfare is a doctrine for losers. I'm sorry Isreal didn't kill a larger proportion of hezbullah.

"Kind hearted people might... think there was some ingenious way to disarm and defeat an enemy without too much bloodshed, [but] pleasant as it sounds, it is a fallacy that must be exposed." - Karl von Clauswitz, On War, 1832.

"If the enemy is to be coerced you must put him in a situation that is even more unpleasant than the sacrifices you call on him to make. The Hardships of the situation must not of course be merely transient--at least not in appearance. Otherwise the enemy would not give in but would wait for things to improve...." - Karl von Clauswitz.

"Let us accept the risk of repaying cruelty with cruelty, of answering violence with more violence. It will be easy for us to overtake the enemy and to draw him back within the limits of moderation and humanity." - Karl von Clauswitz, On War, 1832.

"It would be futile — even wrong — to try and shut one's eyes to what war really is from sheer distress at it's brutality." - Karl Von Clauswitz, On War, 1832.

"You must win by seizing upon the enemy's disorder and derangement, and by not according him even a little of recovery." - Miyamoto Musashi, A Book of Five Rings, 1645.

"Grab 'em by the nose and kick 'em in the pants!" - General George S. Patton.

"Throughout history, many campaigns have been lost by stopping on the wrong side of a river." - General George S. Patton. War As I Knew It. 1947.

"The moral effect of discontinuing an attack is very bad for the troops." - General George S. Patton. War As I Knew It. 1947.

Battles are won by frightening the enemy. Fear is induced by inflicting death and wounds. Death and wounds are produced by fire." - General George S. Patton, Jr., letter of instruction, April 3, 1944.

"Catch the enemy by the nose with fire and kick him in the pants with fire placed through movement." - General George S. Patton, Jr., letter of instruction, 3 April, 1944.

"There is only one tactical principal which is not subject to change. It is: "To so use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum time.'” - General George S. Patton, Jr., letter of instruction, 3 April, 1944.

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." - General George S. Patton.

16 posted on 08/29/2006 3:26:35 PM PDT by PsyOp (No reading is more necessary than that of Machiavelli…. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Alouette
The New York Times bureau chief also said that Israelis "were not interested in whether 1,000 Lebanese civilians needed to die," adding that the question of "whether Israel fought a proportional war is not much of interest here (in Israel)."

Mr. Erlanger should remember the dictum: 'tis better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

This man is obviously incapable of adult thought processes.

18 posted on 08/29/2006 5:41:25 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Alouette

These people are unbelievable! They are so steeped in their agenda that they wouldn't be able to discern the truth in the unlikely event they should find themselves in the same room with it. What a strange, isolated and echoing world they live in.


20 posted on 08/29/2006 5:55:45 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Alouette

The man who said Israel didn't want to see, apparently didn't want to see himself.

"Erlanger told the panel he turned down an offer by the IDF Spokesperson Unit to gain access to IDF efforts aimed at enabling humanitarian aid to reach Lebanon, saying he was not interested in the story."

Why should he be interested in anything that showed Israel in a positive light? I'd be interested to know what else he deliberately ignored in order to satisfy his masters.


22 posted on 08/30/2006 9:42:34 AM PDT by FreeReporting (A leftish Israeli)
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