The unthinkable-to-unexceptionable took place in Hitlers Germany, and were on our own American-style trajectory to perfecting the human race. One lawyer at the Nazi war trials said that savagery like that committed by Nazi Germans becomes doable after you decide that one group of human beings have lost human rights. This is distubingly true.
1 posted on
08/19/2006 2:04:42 PM PDT by
wagglebee
To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback; 8mmMauser
2 posted on
08/19/2006 2:05:20 PM PDT by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: Alexander Rubin; An American In Dairyland; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BIRDS; Bellflower; BlackElk; ...
3 posted on
08/19/2006 2:06:16 PM PDT by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: 8mmMauser; T'wit; floriduh voter; BykrBayb; Irish_Thatcherite
4 posted on
08/19/2006 2:07:02 PM PDT by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
Edwards directs us to consider the quality of our children.One man's lack of quality is another man's diversity.
Once we decide a person's right to life depends on his "quality," there will be no end to the requirements. People will become commodities, easily outdated like cars and computers.
And, who decides what level of quality is "good enough"?
7 posted on
08/19/2006 2:20:55 PM PDT by
syriacus
(Worried about attacks from Iran or Korea? Daschle wanted to scuttle our missile defense program)
To: wagglebee
I love history. The rise of the eugenics movement that resulted in the Holocaust and abortion has been something that I felt the need to research.
For a long time, I did not understand how a civilized society (as the US, England, and Germany were) in the 30's could not only accept such things as involuntary sterilization and abortions, but go even beyond them to the mass killings in Germany and the Soviet Union.
Then I started to hear the same arguments used by the early eugenicists and racial purists being used by todays scientists and so called "ethicists". Our genocide today quieter, but no less horrible. Saying that killing babies is not only ok, but a good and moral thing is a sacrilege of Natural Law.
9 posted on
08/19/2006 2:33:51 PM PDT by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: wagglebee
What was it we said after WWII? "Never again." Unless of course it actually does happen again. In which case, we'll yell "Godwin's Law" at anyone who can prove it.
14 posted on
08/19/2006 2:43:15 PM PDT by
BykrBayb
("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
To: wagglebee
Yes. Life is of value not because of any particular qualities, but because it is from God. Every life has inherent spiritual value. Once this basic universal truth is jettisoned, the law of the jungle will look like gentlemanly behavior in comparison to the resultant butchery and savagery.
To: PatrickHenry
Interesting in that watching a car wreck sort of way.
22 posted on
08/19/2006 4:02:17 PM PDT by
Zeroisanumber
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: wagglebee
24 posted on
08/19/2006 5:08:11 PM PDT by
Valin
(http://www.irey.com/)
To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
25 posted on
08/19/2006 5:12:57 PM PDT by
Coleus
(I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
To: wagglebee
Thanks for the ping, I'm just bookmarking this for tomorrow.
26 posted on
08/19/2006 6:01:06 PM PDT by
Irish_Thatcherite
(A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
To: wagglebee; Aetius; Alamo-Girl; AndrewC; Asphalt; Aussie Dasher; Baraonda; BereanBrain; ...
This is an important part of the debate, and relates directly to the current push to normalize 'evolution.'
31 posted on
08/21/2006 4:38:57 PM PDT by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: wagglebee
The horror of Nazi human experimentation is well documented.
The problem is that the Nazi's did not CONSIDER them to be human; therefore it is ok, as we have allowed experimentation of and on animals (PETA be damned!)
Now, after abortion, we (in our superior wisdom) have declared that unborn humans (OOPS! FETUSES) are not 'human' either, therefore we can kill them.
The moral highground has ALREADY BEEN LOST, so boohooing over 'cell' experimentation is pissing in the wind.
We got off the path long ago, and to right any wrongs that are occuring now REQUIRES a return to the point of departure.
33 posted on
08/22/2006 1:40:25 PM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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