"Constitutional Problems under Lincoln," James G. Randall, 1951, Urbana: University of Illinois Press: "Among the unconstitutional and dictatorial acts performed by Lincoln were initiating and conducting a war by decree for months without the consent or advice of Congress; declaring martial law; confiscating private property; suspending habeas corpus; conscripting the railroads and censoring telegraph lines; imprisoning as many as 30,000 Northern citizens without trial; deporting a member of Congress, Clement L. Vallandigham of Ohio, after Vallandigham - a fierce opponent of the Morrill tariff -- protested imposition of an income tax at a Democratic Party meeting in Ohio; and shutting down hundreds of Northern newspapers."
"Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men," Jeffrey Rogers Hummel; Laissez Faire Books
"The Lincoln Administration imprisoned at least 14,000 (Northern) civilians throughout the course of the war. ... The federal government simultaneously monitored and censored both the mails and telegraphs. ... It also suppressed newspapers. Over three hundred, including the Chicago Times, the New York World, and the Philadelphia Evening Journal, had to cease publication for varying periods."
The Confederate War, Gary Gallagher, 1998, Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press:
"The Emancipation Proclamation caused a desertion crisis in the United States Army. At least 200,000 Northern soldiers deserted; another 120,000 evaded conscription; and another 90,000 Northern men fled to Canada to evade the draft, while thousands more hid in the mountains of central Pennsylvania 'where they lay beyond the easy reach of enrolling officers.'"
Yet you dirt bags continually try to ram "how evil the South was" down Southern throats. Its really reminiscent of the years leading up to the secession, and its no wonder why most Southerners despise you ignorant Yankees. You are dupes and buffoons who followed a dictator under the guise of "Preserving" something, when the end result would've made the Founders wonder what the h*ll happened to their beloved country. And you have the temerity to call us "dumb"!
You guys remind me of an old proverb - Never try to teach a pig to sing, its a waste of your time and annoys the pig!
I can go over to DU right now and find a similar list for George Bush. As the current administration knows, certain threats to the United States require certain measures."The consitution is not a suicide pact" and all that. And every one of the things you list was also undone by the US government.
deporting a member of Congress, Clement L. Vallandigham of Ohio, after Vallandigham - a fierce opponent of the Morrill tariff -- protested imposition of an income tax at a Democratic Party meeting in Ohio;
Nice job of cherry picking one point out of Valladingham's speech and ignoring the rest, like the part about the war being fought to free blacks and enslave whites, about overthrowing "King Lincoln" and about the Republicans intending to never cede power and impose a dictatorship. No, it was the line about income tax that made Burnside toss him in jail.
The Emancipation Proclamation caused a desertion crisis in the United States Army. At least 200,000 Northern soldiers deserted;
Post hoc fallacy. How many confederates deserted at the same time? Did they also quit because of the EP?
Yet you dirt bags continually try to ram "how evil the South was" down Southern throats.
No, I just won't allow you to spout your "The south was right" crap unopposed. You guys were at it on these threads long before I came along.
You are dupes and buffoons who followed a dictator under the guise of "Preserving" something,
So my ancestors,and all the others, who remained loyal to the United States, who fought under the Stars and Stripes, were "dupes and buffoons." Nice. I knew that would come out eventually. Put that one right up with Watie's line last week about freed blacks fighting for the north being turncoats to their southern heritage.
Never try to teach a pig to sing, its a waste of your time and annoys the pig
Funny, I'm always reminded of the same thing, and yet I persist. I figure some passerby might learn a few tunes.
And this post reminds me of an old saying, too. Same shit, different day.
I'm a Southerner. I don't think the South is/was evil. But the Confederacy was an evil slaveowners' regime. The South and the Confederacy is not and never were the same thing.
Unless one was a slaveowner, the defeat of the rebellion was for the best for all Southerners.
If somebody wants to honor their reb soldier ancestor, that's fine with me. The vast majority of those guys were brave and honest-hearted according to the knowledge of the day. But one can honor the brave man who put his life on the line and still recognize the self-centered rottenness of the rebellion of the politicians.
And you would have us condemn the evil Lincoln...for much the same actions as those Jefferson Davis implemented. If Lincoln is sooooooo evil then why isn't ol' Jeff?